Yeah you are right. Just not like the old finals I have seen though. so that is like 2 or 3 good matches in the past 10 years...not so great is it? Dortmumd-Juve was 3-1 BTW, and not very good IMO. Milan-Barca was like 10 years ago, so I was including that one as a good match. My uncle has tapes of CL finals from the 70s to today, and the matches were much better for whatever reason. Ah well, football is like that.