Ok, i'm basically a FIFA player, largely because i spend a lot of money on keeping my pc upgraded, and so i'm not much of a console player, and since the PES ports have pretty much sucked (lets face it), i haven't given PES3 its due attention....
So what I want to ask is, that logically, what makes PES (3/4) a better game than FIFA (say 2005, 2004 and 2003 weren't up to the mark) from these points of views:
a.) as a fun football game
b. ) as a realistic football game.
these two points are different, a fun game is one that is enjoyable as a game in itself. That almost always entails giving up some realism and allowing the player to regularly do things that hardly ever (or never) happen in real life. Thats fine, cuz its a game, and games are only fun when they are purely based on the player's gaming skills, and not limited by real world physical limitations. (e.g. lack of space, or inability to control, or dribble almost perfectly)
A realistic football game is however slightly different, in trying to emulate what happens actually on the pitch, it does sometimes frustrate you because e.g. you loose the ball because that frikkin' player (through no fault of your own) messed up the first touch... anyway you get the picture.
Now the deal is, the short while in which i played pes3, most enjoyable it was, but realistic it wasn't. Why? because i never really felt cramped for space, and i was never really stressed about loosing the ball because passing seemed quite easy (this was on 3 star btw and was my first shot at the game really so it should challenge me), and there were just too many fancy moves i could do at will (of course i was playing with high rated players ... but still)....
So if i'm playing with another friend, i would've said said PES3 all the way, because it pits the player's gaming skills more directly. But the bottom line is, i've always felt, that compared to the real world, its PES3 thats arcadey and fun (albeit with some nice, and overdone, real world moves)... and its FIFA thats striving to make the player feel the pressuers of real world football. In fact thats why FIFA was abused, because you didn't have enough space, but the controls and moves were crap so you kept loosing the ball pointlessly i.e. you didn't have the armory to fight if you will.... so the battle was realistic, but you didn't quite get the right set of guns
So in the end I want to ask you, think about it logically, and tell me whether i'm right or wrong, and explain to me why.
ITs important, i might be buying a console based on your opinions.
So what I want to ask is, that logically, what makes PES (3/4) a better game than FIFA (say 2005, 2004 and 2003 weren't up to the mark) from these points of views:
a.) as a fun football game
b. ) as a realistic football game.
these two points are different, a fun game is one that is enjoyable as a game in itself. That almost always entails giving up some realism and allowing the player to regularly do things that hardly ever (or never) happen in real life. Thats fine, cuz its a game, and games are only fun when they are purely based on the player's gaming skills, and not limited by real world physical limitations. (e.g. lack of space, or inability to control, or dribble almost perfectly)
A realistic football game is however slightly different, in trying to emulate what happens actually on the pitch, it does sometimes frustrate you because e.g. you loose the ball because that frikkin' player (through no fault of your own) messed up the first touch... anyway you get the picture.
Now the deal is, the short while in which i played pes3, most enjoyable it was, but realistic it wasn't. Why? because i never really felt cramped for space, and i was never really stressed about loosing the ball because passing seemed quite easy (this was on 3 star btw and was my first shot at the game really so it should challenge me), and there were just too many fancy moves i could do at will (of course i was playing with high rated players ... but still)....
So if i'm playing with another friend, i would've said said PES3 all the way, because it pits the player's gaming skills more directly. But the bottom line is, i've always felt, that compared to the real world, its PES3 thats arcadey and fun (albeit with some nice, and overdone, real world moves)... and its FIFA thats striving to make the player feel the pressuers of real world football. In fact thats why FIFA was abused, because you didn't have enough space, but the controls and moves were crap so you kept loosing the ball pointlessly i.e. you didn't have the armory to fight if you will.... so the battle was realistic, but you didn't quite get the right set of guns
So in the end I want to ask you, think about it logically, and tell me whether i'm right or wrong, and explain to me why.
ITs important, i might be buying a console based on your opinions.
... though i agree, it was ridiculous in previous fifa's, and completely took the joy out of scoring, because you never really knew how it happened since you didn't really build it up. But that was because previous FIFA's tried to mimic real world defensive AI, but didn't give good enough controls to the player.... now with the better controls, and the first touch, i am still pressured, but can still build up plays intelligently...