2004 Copa América Final - Argentina vs. Brasil [P+R]

[dannyeli]

FF7 i notice you are using something i wrote.. nice althought it turn out in a couple of minutes (:/) honestly i didn't think brazil could actually tied. But you can never under estimate the heart of champ

 

[FF7]

im using because it symbolizes what most of the people thought after delgado's goal
and it shows us that football needs to be played with full passion till the time when the ref blows the whistle

 

[dannyeli]

Absolutely right my friend

 

[emmer]

this discussion is over but i don't care, i can't resist commenting it:

Originally posted by Kibe Kru
in this thread you can see why I don't usually want Brazil to do well on football (they do well whether or not I want them to, but anyways)... we just won a god damn copa america over the argies, can't we be happy with that? no... we have to go and say they're "pussies", they've chickened out, they'll never beat us and **** like that
come on... Argentina played much better than Brazil today, they've played much better than Brazil when they got beat 3-1 in the qualifiers (Brazil had Ronaldo and that's about it)

such attitude...

man, i think i'll always discuss with you. you barely post here but when you do i usually find cool to have a discussion with you.

anyway... i kind of agree with you on that one. i can't stand the attitude some brazilians have when things like that happen. but i think going against brazil on football just because of that is a bit too far.

Originally posted by FF7
cade o orgulho de ser brasileiro?

há meios e meios para expressar o orgulho em ser brasileiro...

Originally posted by Kibe Kru
tenho MUITO orgulho de ser brasileiro, e por isso acho que não se deve fazer o que você fez... para que? não é bom o bastante ganhar deles, tem que pisar? orgulho de ser brasileiro eu tenho quando vejo o handebol que nunca tem patrocínio ganhando o pan, quando vejo o pessoal da ginastica se dando bem, o atletismo, judo...
vendo o que você fez, no entanto, me faz ter vergonha.....

novamente, concordo em parte. a reação de alguns diante de uma vitória às vezes nos deixa com vergonha, não orgulho. mas ter orgulho de ser brasileiro somente quando vencemos nesses esportes que recebem menor atenção por parte da mídia, empresários e público... acho que é ir longe demais também.

Originally posted by FF7
eles teriam feito a mesma coisa
lembre-se.. é a argentina
ate parece q eu matei alguém.. eu nao gosto de argentino e nunca vou gostar...e esse sentimento é reciproco..
nao teveria ter vergonha de um cara que tem orgulho do pais q nasceu e nao aceita levar desaforo pra casa...
o brasil é grande, e eu nao me importo se a gente joga bem ou mal..

se "eles teriam feito a mesma coisa" que você fez, é uma pena -- você conseguiu rebaixar-se ao nível deles. (não quero dizer que eles estejam em um nível abaixo do nosso ou coisa do tipo, mas que atitudes como essa são de baixo nível.)

não critico esse negócio de não gostar de argentino pq tenho certeza (ou quase) que vc soltou essa meio no calor da discussão. impossível saber se vc nunca vai gostar de um ou se um (uma?) chegará a gostar de vc. e... sei lá, coisa meio boba que me veio à mente: vc gosta do meligeni?... hehe.

já indo meio "off-topic", eu gosto de muita coisa da argentina. dois exemplos: música e cinema.

Originally posted by Kibe Kru
mas nao fizeram, nao justifica vc fazer, a nao ser que vc concorde com o Bush e o ataque ao Iraque/Afeganistao

acho que vc deu uma viajada legal com essa daí. só comentando pra encher o saco, mesmo.

 

[emmer]

Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
Let me clarify a few things.

Uruguay has won 2 World Cups (1930 and 1950), 2 Gold Medals at the Olympics (1924 and 1928) and is recognized by FIFA as 4 time World Champions.

Now before you all start ****ting yourself at the fact that FIFA doesn't organize the Olympics and that Canada is also a 1 time World Champion under this argument, you might want to pull out your history books and read up a little before leaving behind evidence of your ignorance.

FIFA organized the Football Olympic Games of 1924 and 1928.

I know, who would've thought... FIFA also gave Uruguay two signed documents, one for each Olympic, stating Uruguay to be World Champions.

aye man, i was going to comment something along those lines. i'm pretty impressed with the lack of knowledge on football history we find here. everybody seems to care only about the present. (it happens to general history too but since people here are supposed to be footy fanatics...)

 

[LOCOlombia]

Originally posted by Mauricio
God "El Pato" sux when comes to PKs, he announced like an a hour before when he tried to guess the side even me could made hin a goal in PK

it was about time someone recognize his true skills...
he has shown all along not to be the best of golies, I still don't know how he managed to stop a PK against River.......

 

[emmer]

Originally posted by Grunger
He was a sub because Parreira is a fool.

Originally posted by FF7
parreira was dumb of not starting him

i think it may be complicated to swear at parreira like that. i think baptista should have been a starter on the b team also but if parreira might have good reasons for not doing it.

okay, call me a fool, but i like edu. i think baptista should start over renato, whose i'm not a big fan of. but parreira seems to love renato.

i don't know why, but it just remembered me when everybody sweared at parreira in world cup '94 -- i'm talking specifically about zinho "enceradeira". zinho played every match and although he didn't impress he did his job very well. tactically nearly perfect, he did exactly what parreira asked him to. and we won the cup with parreira and his enceradeira.

 

[Bummy_JaB]

How did Kleberson get to start over Diego????? I think Diego is miles ahead of him

 

[pasion1]

Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
Let me clarify a few things.

Uruguay has won 2 World Cups (1930 and 1950), 2 Gold Medals at the Olympics (1924 and 1928) and is recognized by FIFA as 4 time World Champions.

Now before you all start ****ting yourself at the fact that FIFA doesn't organize the Olympics and that Canada is also a 1 time World Champion under this argument, you might want to pull out your history books and read up a little before leaving behind evidence of your ignorance.

FIFA organized the Football Olympic Games of 1924 and 1928.

I know, who would've thought... FIFA also gave Uruguay two signed documents, one for each Olympic, stating Uruguay to be World Champions.

Yeah..imagine Canada World Champs
Yeah...only those 2 Olympics counted as World Cups. If Argentina (or anyone) won it today.....it would just count as a Olympic Gold Medal.

 

[314frog]

Originally posted by Bummy_JaB
How did Kleberson get to start over Diego????? I think Diego is miles ahead of him

u wish.. thas y he kleberson go to start... kleberson is a gizzillion times better than diego.. peace
pi

 

[314frog]

i didnt see much of alex on the ball til the last half of the seond half nstill wasnt much on he ball either... but mayb he was markd too titely..but man! his freekick that setup the luisao goal was PERFECTO!!!!

peace
pi

 

[WilliamFAlmeida]

when did it turn bad to be proud of your TEAM's accomplishment?

chill out online folks....its all 1 and 0's.......

 

[Mauricio]

Originally posted by pasion1
Y
Yeah...only those 2 Olympics counted as World Cups. If Argentina (or anyone) won it today.....it would just count as a Olympic Gold Medal.

That sound a little unfair to me

oh damn 4-0

seriously mate...mexico never won a wc so you can't make fun of us

i was making a joke its obvious u cant even compare Mexico with Brazil, i didnt do it, so whats your point

We all know that Brazil is the football powerhouse i wasnt making fun of you , i only think that is strange that Brazil hasnt won the olympics

 

[soccerbest]

Originally posted by Bummy_JaB
How did Kleberson get to start over Diego????? I think Diego is miles ahead of him

stop your bashing on him, you prick.

 

[Raikkonen]

mmm ... what a bad losers

it says "we have another chance at Olympic Games. They're not going because we eliminated them."

it reminds me the cover when Brazil played WC2002 final... that was ****

 

[Ruben Sosa]

Originally posted by ninobomba
u guys have the first world cup in Uruguay or a replica or something? has it always been the same since now or has it changed its format?

Hmm, well for the first question, the actual trophy, the Jules Rimet Trophy, was awarded to Brazil after they won the 1970 WC, so if we have one, it should be a replica.

As for your second question, I'm not sure what you mean, has the World Cup changed its format? If that's what you mean, then yes, the World Cup has changed formats several times through history.

 

[Lennon]

Originally posted by Raikkonen
mmm ... what a bad losers

it says "we have another chance at Olympic Games. They're not going because we eliminated them."

it reminds me the cover when Brazil played WC2002 final... that was ****

wtf?? That newspaper made a mistake, they repeated 'hay' two times :funny:

 

[Lennon]

Originally posted by FF7
oh damn 4-0

seriously mate...mexico never won a wc so you can't make fun of us

He wasn't making fun of brazilians. He was simply stating the truth, Brazil did not qualified for the Olympic games.

 

[Ruben Sosa]

Didn't Paraguay eliminate Brazil? I'm pretty sure that Argentina beat Brazil for the Olympic qualifiers, but I'm also pretty sure that if Brazil had beaten or drawn Paraguay on their last game, then they would still have qualified.

 

[Lennon]

yep, we eliminated Brazil by beating them in the last game.