AC Milan Declare War On Real Madrid

[TheBlueBalla]

Dude, big deal. What the hell does he hope to accomplish by talking like king swaggercock and using terms like "we declare war" on another club? Real have been doing the very same thing for five years now when they chase a galactico. Allude to the player, use the press to unsettle the player, use the pro Madrid spanish press to constantly reinforce the message that its imminent, and then just thrash out the financial details because the player is already so confused and flattered that saying no would put them in a shyte situation with club and teammates. Then the club, convinced theyre going to have a miserable, off form player who might even refuse to suit up, sell to get whatever they can before the summer is out. Look at Vieira. They didnt get him but they managed to drive the final wedge in the rift between player and club and next summer he was off.

Until it can be conclusively proven that one of the candidates reached some kind of precontract agreement with any player, despite what the various clubs bitch about, then they have just taken their trademark (hell, every major manager uses this tactic) media blitz on a player who they are targeting to new heights.

 

[Crusad3r]

Real Madrid, unmighty bast*rds! they tried to sign a Milan player !!

 

[mega montana]

Dude, big deal. What the hell does he hope to accomplish by talking like king swaggercock and using terms like "we declare war" on another club? Real have been doing the very same thing for five years now when they chase a galactico. Allude to the player, use the press to unsettle the player, use the pro Madrid spanish press to constantly reinforce the message that its imminent, and then just thrash out the financial details because the player is already so confused and flattered that saying no would put them in a shyte situation with club and teammates. Then the club, convinced theyre going to have a miserable, off form player who might even refuse to suit up, sell to get whatever they can before the summer is out. Look at Vieira. They didnt get him but they managed to drive the final wedge in the rift between player and club and next summer he was off.

Until it can be conclusively proven that one of the candidates reached some kind of precontract agreement with any player, despite what the various clubs bitch about, then they have just taken their trademark (hell, every major manager uses this tactic) media blitz on a player who they are targeting to new heights.

lmao @ the image of juve fuming, i am sure they have more then enough problems to deal with

 

[camilo_marin21]

its not that they tried to sign him, is HOW they tried to sign him

 

[TheBlueBalla]

You shouldnt take Chelsea serious. They did worse with Cole. Ours was just a rumour (with Robben)...Theirs wasnt. It happened for real. They tried to get Cole by talkin to him personally. They almost got banned from the transfermarket for that.

If youre presidents claims are to be taken seriously, he talked to these players personally too. Unless he negociated a precontract or whatever rubbish he was talking about on a hunch

 

[Madeira]

Um....

yesh!

 

[Dream Team]

Dude, big deal. What the hell does he hope to accomplish by talking like king swaggercock and using terms like "we declare war" on another club? Real have been doing the very same thing for five years now when they chase a galactico. Allude to the player, use the press to unsettle the player, use the pro Madrid spanish press to constantly reinforce the message that its imminent, and then just thrash out the financial details because the player is already so confused and flattered that saying no would put them in a shyte situation with club and teammates. Then the club, convinced theyre going to have a miserable, off form player who might even refuse to suit up, sell to get whatever they can before the summer is out. Look at Vieira. They didnt get him but they managed to drive the final wedge in the rift between player and club and next summer he was off.

Until it can be conclusively proven that one of the candidates reached some kind of precontract agreement with any player, despite what the various clubs bitch about, then they have just taken their trademark (hell, every major manager uses this tactic) media blitz on a player who they are targeting to new heights.

The difference between Calderón and F. Pérez is that Florentino controlled the tempo much better, he knew how to do it. Calderón promised Cesc, Robben and Kaka and he's acting desperate because he can't get any of them.

If Milan were sure that Kaka wants to stay, they wouldn't need to say this ridiculous "I hate you". Milan can't afford to lose Kaka after they were forced to sell Shevchenko. I guess they fear that it could happen and that's why they're so nervous.

If Milan have any evidence that Real Madrid are not acting by the rules, they should report Real Madrid to FIFA.

I don't agree with the second paragraph. Not all the teams act that way but anyway that wouldn't make it right.

 

[TheBlueBalla]

I don't agree with the second paragraph. Not all the teams act that way but anyway that wouldn't make it right.

I shouldve been more clear with that. What I meant to say was that the big teams who hold financial muscle often have managers who say something to inflate the ego of a player they want and in doing so, kind of show their hand so that the player recognizes he is wanted and gets the idea to leave.

But I agree that Calderon is being pretty braindead about they way he went about it. Perez delivered on his promise to get Figo. Calderon is batting 0-3, and I dont think that is going to change

 

[LilPlayaJosh]

wasn't it Italians who were outraged because Eddie Johnson made a war analogy before the USA-Italy game. So is the Italian media not outraged when one of there own says something practically the same or are they?

 

[big al]

Adriano Galliani can suck my cock.

Who gives a f*ck about what that Corrupt Italian Midget has to say.

We don't need Kaka(though of course it'd be nice) we are covered at his position. I don't really want anyone from them apart from Pirlo or Gatusso, but niether of those would leave Milan, so he can declare war or whatever the f*ck he wants to do for all we f*cking care.

damm ; thats the most excited i seen rusi; lol ; anyways i do agree ; they dont need kaka; imo i think pirlo would the best choice for real ; not because he is better than kaka; but more cause he is more of an all around player ; he attacks as well as the defends; he is tacticly almost perfect; real madrid problems have been the midield in the recent past; so pirlo are what madrid need.

 

[Kulixs]

It can only be bad for Madrid. They don't exactly have a great youth system, and there only policy is to buy big stars from other clubs. Bad relations with the clubs will only lead to their downfall.

 

[Socrates]

Dude, big deal. What the hell does he hope to accomplish by talking like king swaggercock and using terms like "we declare war" on another club? Real have been doing the very same thing for five years now when they chase a galactico. Allude to the player, use the press to unsettle the player, use the pro Madrid spanish press to constantly reinforce the message that its imminent, and then just thrash out the financial details because the player is already so confused and flattered that saying no would put them in a shyte situation with club and teammates. Then the club, convinced theyre going to have a miserable, off form player who might even refuse to suit up, sell to get whatever they can before the summer is out. Look at Vieira. They didnt get him but they managed to drive the final wedge in the rift between player and club and next summer he was off.

Until it can be conclusively proven that one of the candidates reached some kind of precontract agreement with any player, despite what the various clubs bitch about, then they have just taken their trademark (hell, every major manager uses this tactic) media blitz on a player who they are targeting to new heights.

Now while I do agree that the guys comment about making a "war" are kind of over the top I still dont like the way Calderon is doing things either. Going to the media so much to say he has this and that when he infact does not. He needs to keep it to himself at times.

The difference between Calderón and F. Pérez is that Florentino controlled the tempo much better, he knew how to do it. Calderón promised Cesc, Robben and Kaka and he's acting desperate because he can't get any of them.

If Milan were sure that Kaka wants to stay, they wouldn't need to say this ridiculous "I hate you". Milan can't afford to lose Kaka after they were forced to sell Shevchenko. I guess they fear that it could happen and that's why they're so nervous.

If Milan have any evidence that Real Madrid are not acting by the rules, they should report Real Madrid to FIFA.

I don't agree with the second paragraph. Not all the teams act that way but anyway that wouldn't make it right.

Yes true Perez was better at making it happen.

Do you mean that not all teams shows an interest in the player first? I think this happens with just about every club, its just that their club president/whoever makes the offers does not go on about it happening to the media.

its not that they tried to sign him, is HOW they tried to sign him

Oh yes because no other team does it right :boohoo:

It can only be bad for Madrid. They don't exactly have a great youth system, and there only policy is to buy big stars from other clubs. Bad relations with the clubs will only lead to their downfall.

Actually we do have a good youth system, its just that we dont use them. Last year our RM B ( now named Castilla ) were promoted to the second divison and they survived so they are in it again this year which is grat for our players. RM C lost on the playoff's for entrace into the 2a divison which is one division below the second divison. It would have been nice to see that happen. Also on Spain U-19 I think we have the most players on that squad. Spain U-19 beat Austria 5-0 in semifinals with 4 goals from Madrid players.

Anyways with that said none of the players ( Cesc, Robben, or Kaka ) will come which is not such a bad thing. I was worried that he might spend all our money right there and I dont think our money can give us those three players either.

 

[Kulixs]

Anyways with that said none of the players ( Cesc, Robben, or Kaka ) will come which is not such a bad thing. I was worried that he might spend all our money right there and I dont think our money can give us those three players either.

There is a difference between having good young players and having a good youth system. It seems Real Madrid have decent young players, but they never seem to make it, probably down to Real's handling of them (youth system.) You can see a players true quality if they actually make it in the game, the fact these players never seem to break into the first team setup at Real Madrid shows they have a poor youth system, because the youngsters never get a chance and they never fulfill there potential.

 

[Socrates]

There is a difference between having good young players and having a good youth system. It seems Real Madrid have decent young players, but they never seem to make it, probably down to Real's handling of them (youth system.) You can see a players true quality if they actually make it in the game, the fact these players never seem to break into the first team setup at Real Madrid shows they have a poor youth system, because the youngsters never get a chance and they never fulfill there potential.

Ah I see my bad than, sorry for the confusion. Yes we have sucked at using our players recently. Instead of them becoming players here they tend to do it at other liga teams. It seems like the youth system is good...untill they have to make the final step which is where we have failed lately. BTW this season we might actually see a players from Castilla get promoted, his name is Jurado and he has impressed just about everyone. Michel ( Castilla coach ) and Capello both say he is the best of the bunch from Castilla and that he might stay with the first team

 

[rony31]

I think with all the media coverage he and Milan have received lately, the last thing he wants to do is call another club "tarnished".

 

[SB9Dragon]

Ooooooooh, aaaaah. We are gonna wage war. Galliani, you ass clown. I can't believe his audacity in considering Real Madrid a club that's not "honoring its history of being a great club" by throwing it all away with such actions. Hilarious.

That aside, its common that new presidents make foolish claims, promising this or that player. I think Galliani's only having a sissy fit with this whole "we'll rage war with Real's management" thing.

But I do agree with his motive. In no shape or form should Milan let Kaka go. He's too valuable to the side. And its not like Milan need the money so much so to let a star player go. So "making things impossible" for Real in signing Kaka is the right thing to do. Though the way he presented this whole thing is silly.

 

[Socrates]

I guess Villar Mir will win, then. I mean, why would Calderon be so opposed to those votes being counted if he thought they were in his favour..

Acutally scrath my last comment, they have not yet seen the votes yet. They think there is about 10k votes but have not seen which are vaild and which are not. Sorry for the confusion, this whole thing has been a ******* mess. Also it seems like quite a few people think Palacios will come out as the winner ( he was in second place behind Calderon )...so :chew: Sorry for being off topic btw.

 

[Vedran-10]

Acutally scrath my last comment, they have not yet seen the votes yet. They think there is about 10k votes but have not seen which are vaild and which are not. Sorry for the confusion, this whole thing has been a ******* mess. Also it seems like quite a few people think Palacios will come out as the winner ( he was in second place behind Calderon )...so :chew: Sorry for being off topic btw.

But I thought Palacios recognized Calderon as the winner and stepped down..?

If this was the case, then Villar Mir is second placed, being the one who didn't accept defeat. My understanding is that Palacios accepted the results and quit, while VM thinks the race is still going on...
Besides, VM is so eager to count these votes, I have a feeling he'll come out as the winner if the votes prove valid.

 

[Socrates]

But I thought Palacios recognized Calderon as the winner and stepped down..?

If this was the case, then Villar Mir is second placed, being the one who didn't accept defeat. My understanding is that Palacios accepted the results and quit, while VM thinks the race is still going on...
Besides, VM is so eager to count these votes, I have a feeling he'll come out as the winner if the votes prove valid.

I dont think so. From what I have read Palacios had conceded defeat on election night so that the whole thing could keep going and Calderon would be named the president unlike VM who would not do that, thats the reason that the electoral board had to name Calderon as president. I dont think he has actually put himself out of the whole thing, I am sure that if he ends up as the winner than he would want to take his spot.

 

[jani]

Calderon sent a letter of apology to Galliani..

Caro signor Galliani,
Abbiamo letto con grande sorpresa la sua intervista a Marca. Siamo assolutamente sicuri che si tratti di un clamoroso malinteso. C'è sempre stato un ottimo rapporto tra i nostri due club e la nostra volontà è di proseguire su questa strada. Abbiamo sempre avuto grande rispetto verso la gloriosa storia del Milan. Speriamo di ristabilire un clima di cordialità al più presto possibile.
Cordiali saluti,
Don Ramon Calderon Ramos, presidente del Real Madrid.