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After playing PES3 DEMO!

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MasterM

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: After playing PES3 DEMO!

Originally posted by AcillateM
well spoken. don´t even waste your time with this guys. they would say fifa is the best even if EA delete the ball from the game.

hahahahhaha thats true. Last year there was even no header function in fifa. If that happened in pes the whole pes community would have protested like hell. But the fifa community just didnt seem to care, as long as beckham had the right hair style...
 

Perth Glory

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Re: After playing PES3 DEMO!

Originally posted by Nostradamus
After few excrushiating matches on PES3, I gave up. FIFA is so much more fun! Both games are far from simulation, but FIFA is much more closer than PES is at the moment.
Ok, fun is yours to have and I can see how you'd be lost only playing a few games of PES but what I'd really like to know is how you think FIFA recreates football more realistically than PES :confused:
 

Bh0y

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LOL look at all the little PES3 kids..so funny.

They point of theis guys thread was not to debate over what was the better game but what gme is more simulation and what is more arcade..FIFA2004 is far more of a simulation than PES3.
However PES£ might play ..eh smoother so to speak..more fluid gameplay,,but its still more arcadeish compared to fifa.
SO it makes me laugh when people come on here and show how little they know about things when they say stuff like PES is far more of a simulation..lol then they go on about "oh i played football for 7 years","i watch football on the telly"..well guess what..join the rest of the entire male population of europe then pal.
 

toomerk

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Originally posted by Bh0y
LOL look at all the little PES3 kids..so funny.

They point of theis guys thread was not to debate over what was the better game but what gme is more simulation and what is more arcade..FIFA2004 is far more of a simulation than PES3.
However PES£ might play ..eh smoother so to speak..more fluid gameplay,,but its still more arcadeish compared to fifa.
SO it makes me laugh when people come on here and show how little they know about things when they say stuff like PES is far more of a simulation..lol then they go on about "oh i played football for 7 years","i watch football on the telly"..well guess what..join the rest of the entire male population of europe then pal.

I'm interested to hear your exact arguments on why you think FIFA is more of a simulation than PES. The reason I ask is because I've only heard one or two other people ever say something like this, but they've never actually broken it down gameplay-wise point by point. I'd like to hear some specific gameplay reasons why you think FIFA is a more realistic interpretation of football...
 

pronewbie

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What a great joke.. Oh no, FIFA has stellar AI, realistic shooting and passing... Excellent GKs... And oh, did they leech most of their gameplay enhancements from Konami and still make a hash out of it? Dude, even the animations in FIFA sucks donkey balls..
 

skillwiz

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that guy doesnt know the difference between foreplay and gameplay
i guess dont do the gameplay in the bed
 

Bh0y

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LOL why is all the little PES kiddies always hit out with patter like.."donkey balls" "oh you dont know gameplay"

Let me tell you something pal ive been playing fifa and ISS since before you sprouted your first pube. and for me iss 3 was the best game ever made in the history of mankind.
However since that game , EA has made bigger leaps in imroving there game and i for 1 dont have the brain of a intoxicated gerbil like yourself so i can apreciate when i see a good game and when i dont ..and fifa 2004 is a good football game. And the fact that you cant crasp this is to your detriment.
I cant wait to have a look at the full game of pes3 when its release cos the demo is just ugly man. but i will be hoping the full game works fine. However there is no online play for PES and for me this gives fifa 2004 a massive advantage when it comes to overall value of the game.

When your talking about what ones the more acurate simulation and i like the polite guy asked ill give my opinion on why i think fifa is more of a simulation and PES is more arcadish.

Well frankly it has been this way since th very beggining with these 2 games, When ISS first came out all those years ago it played very arcady,, like set lines the players had to move along when running, the ball always going to certain spots, passing and such was just not made to be like real life in order to make the game fun.
Fifa was much better at this time and had more freedom of movement and slicker passing when playing. not to mention the graphics where better withc added to the overall feel of the game.

I think these are basic principles that have carried over to this years games..PES3 animations look arcadish in there very nature and the movement still feels a bit like"go on the left line,turn 90degrees go down the right imaginary line".
this is all done to produce a more fun, and even tho it still feels arcadish you still get the good eb and flow of ia real football game..but its not quite a real football game its just the eb and flow of PES

Fifa on the other hand try and produce a game as close to the real thing as they can..the graphics,, the passing, the positioning, ..all of it adds up to a more simulated game than PES..i cant say exactly what makes it more of a simulation cos im not a computer proggramer.

But just playing the games it should certainly become aparent that PES3 is a very fun arcade football game
and fifa is a very fun football game that tries to represent the buitifull game as closely as it can
Perhaps is fifa focused on the fun aspect insted of the reality aspect then they would have a better game..perhaps not,,

So tho i have not said what game i think is better you all assume its fifa cos i think fifa is more of a simulation,, but this is not just an opinion of a fifa fan,, its a fact of ******* life
 

niceman

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Re: After playing PES3 DEMO!

Originally posted by Nostradamus
Yesterday I wrote a review about my views on FIFA where I said that the game was as far from simulation as it could be.

Today I played PES3 demo released by Konami and my views changed. FIFA is not as far from simulation as it could be, PES3 IS!

I mean, the whole feel about PES3 is so arcadish! It reminds me of Virtua Striker on the SEGA console and in the arcade.

After few excrushiating matches on PES3, I gave up. FIFA is so much more fun! Both games are far from simulation, but FIFA is much more closer than PES is at the moment.

I sat around with my friend and laughed at PES3 just at the thought that this game was supposed to rival FIFA in realism.

Final verdict: Both games are far from football simulation, but FIFA is miles closer than PES3 at this stage.

PES3 == ISS3 - They are about the same game. Good arcade fun.
Ill face all ur bull**** here PES is so far wawy from FIFA im not going to demonstrate it. I have played FIFA 2001 (the last) have u FIFA fans played PES at all...muaha...ill see u in hell EA
 

niceman

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Originally posted by skillwiz
that guy doesnt know the difference between foreplay and gameplay
i guess dont do the gameplay in the bed
Loooooooooooooooool foreplay=FIFA PES=sex loooooooooooooool...muaha:rolleyes:
 

theCRO

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BHoy,

that might have been the dumbest post I've ever read. You try to argue against the world that FIFA is more of a "simulation" while pretending to have played PES. You offer no argument whatsoever, which leads me to be suspicious of your integrity.

I would conclude one of three things

a: you are a poor player and you have never watched 90 minutes of football (or you're 9 years old)

b: you've never played PES

c: you work for EA

there's no way a knowledgable football fan would come to your conclusions...when a real fan looks at both games, there isn't a doubt as to which one os more realistic and which one is the simulation...
 

Perth Glory

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Originally posted by Bh0y
.... and for me iss 3 was the best game ever made in the history of mankind.
From the start, your credibility in judging football games is gone if you genuinely think iss3 "was the best game ever made in the history of mankind". It's widely regarded as being complete ****e and btw is made by a completely different development team than the people who make PES3.

...cos the demo is just ugly man. but i will be hoping the full game works fine.
The PES3 demo(maybe not even meant for release) works perfect, it's only asking for a directx8 compliant gfx card.
However there is no online play for PES and for me this gives fifa 2004 a massive advantage when it comes to overall value of the game.
Maybe for some, but for me an average game is an average game, online or offline.
... like set lines the players had to move along when running, the ball always going to certain spots, passing and such was just not made to be like real life in order to make the game fun.
Fifa was much better at this time and had more freedom of movement and slicker passing when playing. not to mention the graphics where better withc added to the overall feel of the game.
What are you talking about? The players on rails feel has always been one of FIFA's weakest points and FIFA04 is no different. Why do you think they emphasize OTB so much? Simple, because the players never make diagonal runs. How often do you see a central midfielder in fifa04 move out to the wing? Never. On the very rare occasion one of your striker's moves out wide, watch the other striker, he will always be standing completely still on the edge of the area.


I thought net play may have made FIFA04 worth buying this year but with static players, robotic animations and the AI of the other players being so pathetic it'll just be a weird 1on1 online game that kind of looks like football.
 

theCRO

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nemam pojma za password zemljak....ask in the PES/WE for the pass, I didn't realise there was one...
 
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