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Am I thick or is it the contoller menu

O'neill

Reserve Team
The contoller menu in Pro Evo is a cause of great frustration for me. I am trying to set up my Wingman cordless to use the same buttons I do in Fifa. I use the 1st ingame controller menu to correct the buttons, then the 2nd to set up the buttons as I wish. Then I go to a game and its all to pot. I then check the 1st menu to see that the settings I made in the 2nd menu has F*ck@d up the settings. I have tried about 6 times now also trying the settings before I get in game. No joy. I keep going back to Fifa and swearing, so please help with your solutions.
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
just get used to PES3 buttons...because you will not be playing FIFA again after getting the hang of this game
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
I gonna have a proper sit down to sort it, thanks. However Cro, I will continue playing Fifa as I think it does somethings better and I will never get so bigotted to think I know wots best for everyone else. I hate these Fifa v PES arguments that you should trash one and worship the other, thats tripe.
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
sorry man, I just believe, as do 95% of the others who've tried both games, that PES3 is clearly the supperior product and FIFA is unplayable.

And trashing a bad product is not only something we all SHOULD do, its something that is OUR DUTY to do, and use this forum to our very best ability to trash and criticise (constructively or otherwise) every product, and its our DUTY to compare two competing games of the same genre and evaluate each as to their merits and flaws.

We are the consumers, its OUR MONEY, and if you have come to a discussion forum in order to "keep quiet" and not argue a point, then you've missed the point of a discussion forum entirely. In fact you start a thread in a "FIFA vs. PES" forum, and you claim to hate the arguments....don't you find that strange?

So if saying FIFA is a an absolutely horrible game and comparing it to the best sports simulation in existance is somehow construed as bigotry by the likes of you, I'll wear that badge proudly, thank you very much !!

regards
theCro

:)
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
I'm not saying keep quiet at all, i,m saying the arguments go 'trash the one and worship the other'.
I'm saying I dont agree and the way you guys try to state your arguements as factual and accepted, I dont agree and dont accept it. Its your opinion, your entitled to it but its not based on facts but your opinions. Most people who argue that way wont accept different opinions, thats wot I hate.
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
Originally posted by O'neill
I'm not saying keep quiet at all, i,m saying the arguments go 'trash the one and worship the other'.
I'm saying I dont agree and the way you guys try to state your arguements as factual and accepted, I dont agree and dont accept it. Its your opinion, your entitled to it but its not based on facts but your opinions. Most people who argue that way wont accept different opinions, thats wot I hate.

It may also be an opinion of mine that the movie "The Shawshank Redemption" is better than "Dude where's my Car", and according to an overwhelming number of reviewers, academies and general people, it is better. So based on overwhelming opinion I can safely say that "Redempion" is the better movie.

Something doesn't have to be a fact in order for it to be accepted, it can be accepted simply by virtue of popular opinion or lack of evidence to prove otherwise, especially a football game that can be compared to the real sport.

It's not about not accapting different opinions, if I met someone who regards Adolf Hitler a hero I would have to accept his opinion, what choice do I have? I wouldn't agree with him, but since 99%% of the world media, population, historians, experts etc. agrees with me, I can safely call Hitler a villian without having to justify my claim to a population who believe him to be a hero. Or having to add to this that my views are merely opinions bla bla. When confronted by serious scrutiny and analysys, my arguments against Hitler would be more persuasive than his in favour of Hitler.

Same in PES3 and FIFA2004, when the arguments are evaluated, its a FACT that the arguments suggesting PES3 is the far supperior product are much more convincing than the arguments which hope to prove FIFA is the better of the two...

I believe calling PES3 a much better game than FIFA2004 is mater of fact, not opinion. We can compare them to the real thing, and FIFA is uncomparable, whereas PES3 is the best recreation of the sport available...fact !
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
As I say, my opinions differ and you have to accept that. Also accept that I will keep on playing Fifa and PES3 and I dot want anyone to tell me which I should bin and which I should play. Thank you. I'm not argueing that Fifa is better, I'm argueing that if I wanna play it I dont want people to tell me to bin it, I'm argueing that there are faults in Fifa as there are in PES But I enjoy things about both and wll keep playing both.

The arguments about Hitler being a villan is crap. It is a fact that he is a villan, not based on numerical opinions but facts that can actually not be disproved. Facts are never based on numerical opinions and should never be. In fact if you take the sales figures of these games wouldnt you also want to argue on that basis. Then what does it mean that Fifa sells big or soars the charts as well as PES? It does not mean it is a good game or poor game. U cannot base facts on numerical opinions or there are many areas you would have to explain the inconsistencies.

I'm not going to argue this point anymore, my OPINIONS arent gonna change for you, and I dont think yours are gonna change for me. Lets just accept the world as it is that everyone has different needs/desires/backgrounds =opinions, u dont need to change mine to yours. OK?
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
what? what the hell are you trying to say? People have opinions, be it about Hitler, Saddam, Bush, taxes, movies or video games...but since one product is clearly and painfully superrior, its a FACT that PES3 is the better game, and the better simulation.

I stand by my point that real football fans can tell which game is better...the 6 year old kids who get FIFA for Christmas keep EA alive...
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
I still tearing my hair out as I havent sorted the stpid controller yet. Anyone using Logitech Wingman cordless with this can help please?
 

Striker27

Club Supporter
Unfortunately, I can see exactly where O'neill is coming from.

Different people have different opinions on things. Even if 95% of people prefer PES to FIFA, there's still the 5% that prefer FIFA. It's particularly annoying for the minority when the majority say they're "right" because most people agree with them (the point of them being a majority.)

Granted, the people who prefer FIFA to PES are definitely in the minority. And I'm not one of them: I was converted from FIFA to PES just recently. However, that doesn't mean that I suddenly think that all FIFA fans are turds.

The fact that most people prefer PES to FIFA shows that the majority opinion is that PES is the better game, but that doesn't mean that everyone has to prefer PES to FIFA. That would require a unanimous, not majority, verdict. The point of the PES vs FIFA debate is to discuss, not to slag each other off!

Like the age-old battle between Quake I and Quake II: technically Quake II was "better" in that it was a newer version, but there were (and still are) a sizeable proportion of the population that prefers Quake I.
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
no ill feelings towards anyone, of course people will have opinions and you have to respect that...good luck to the 5%, but nobody can convince me that FIFA is the better sim, it isn't.
 

marc_angelus

Reserve Team
lol, amazing how even when someone asks for help setting up their joypad, it still turns into another retarded PES vs FIFA argument..
 

theCRO

Senior Squad
Originally posted by marc_angelus
lol, amazing how even when someone asks for help setting up their joypad, it still turns into another retarded PES vs FIFA argument..

funny that, in a FIFA vs. PES forum eh?

:rolleyes: ;)
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
I just turn a blind eye to the arguments now, everone should be allowed to live to thier own in content.
 


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