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Batman: The Dark Knight

fender

Fan Favourite
Great movie, definitely tops the first one. Even though its about 150mins long you're just engaged throughout the movie.

Probably been said thousands of times but, Heath Ledger's performance is just unbelievable.
 

$teauA

Superstar
Just got back.

Let's just say that I had amazing expectations and it blew them out of the water. Go see this movie right now or you are doing a disservice to your life.
 

Hakeem

Superman
Agree. Better than Begins, darker, bigger in scope, with Gotham being a real city now, and with more important characters than before. The movie belongs to two of them, and weirdly enough none is Batman.
First and foremost is The Joker, played by the late Heath Ledger. Twisted, scarier and crazier than before. He's no circus clown and there aren't silly jokes coming from him, this is a scarred man that personifies pure evil. He says he does everything at random and on the moment, but it's not true, from the very beginning of the movie he's in total control. This Joker is truly one of the greatest villains of all time.
At the other end of the spectrum is Harvey Dent, whom the city calls its White Knight. Played by Aaron Eckhart, this guy is pure goodness and justice, getting rid of all the corrupt and bad people in Gotham. His turn as Two-Face towards the end is very well done but I could've done without it, Dent was just too good.
Then there's Batman, again with the raspy voice I don't like very much. My main problems with Batman Begins were in the origin story, and so since we're past that now then it's all good. The new bike that comes out of the Batmobile is great, and some of Batman's new gadgets are very good, except for the sonar radar system which is very stupid.
The rest of the characters are all good too, Gary Oldman's Gordon is the most normal person in the movie, and also the 4th most important character in the story. Then Michael Caine's Alfred and Morgan Freeman's Lucius Fox provide the wise commentary and support, and finally Maggie Gyllenhaal as the new Rachel Dawes is very good too.
All in all, the movie is excellent though still not better than Spidey 2.
 

King

My ass smells like your mom
9.6/10 for the first 7041 votes. Its already #3 in the top 250 list of IMDB. BEAT THE GODFATHER!! :D This might be the only movie besides LOTR Trilogy that I will go and see in a theater. (H)
 

$teauA

Superstar
Hakeem;2551859 said:
Agree. Better than Begins, darker, bigger in scope, with Gotham being a real city now, and with more important characters than before. The movie belongs to two of them, and weirdly enough none is Batman.
First and foremost is The Joker, played by the late Heath Ledger. Twisted, scarier and crazier than before. He's no circus clown and there aren't silly jokes coming from him, this is a scarred man that personifies pure evil. He says he does everything at random and on the moment, but it's not true, from the very beginning of the movie he's in total control. This Joker is truly one of the greatest villains of all time.
At the other end of the spectrum is Harvey Dent, whom the city calls its White Knight. Played by Aaron Eckhart, this guy is pure goodness and justice, getting rid of all the corrupt and bad people in Gotham. His turn as Two-Face towards the end is very well done but I could've done without it, Dent was just too good.
Then there's Batman, again with the raspy voice I don't like very much. My main problems with Batman Begins were in the origin story, and so since we're past that now then it's all good. The new bike that comes out of the Batmobile is great, and some of Batman's new gadgets are very good, except for the sonar radar system which is very stupid.
The rest of the characters are all good too, Gary Oldman's Gordon is the most normal person in the movie, and also the 4th most important character in the story. Then Michael Caine's Alfred and Morgan Freeman's Lucius Fox provide the wise commentary and support, and finally Maggie Gyllenhaal as the new Rachel Dawes is very good too.
All in all, the movie is excellent though still not better than Spidey 2.

Not better than Spiderman 2? On what ungodly reasons could you possibly base that statement on?
 

Hakeem

Superman
well, on the fun side alone is not better.
and the fact that Batman has to share the spotlight with The Joker, Harvey Dent/Two-Face and Gordon in this one goes against it. in Spiderman 2 the character with the big decisions and dilemmas was still Peter/Spidey, here Batman is behind Harvey Dent on that sense. Batman is also not the coolest character in the movie (that goes to Ledger's Joker, of course), while in Spiderman he still was it even with such a great character as Doc Ock was.

plus, as I said before, I dont completely love this Bruce and Batman as characters (in this one and Begins) with the raspy voice, Batman too dark and Bruce with the extra cocky/asshole attitude (Bruce is just not a very likeable person). On the other hand, I loved Spiderman in the first 2 movies (not so much in the third one with the whole black suit and the emo attitude).
 

King

My ass smells like your mom
Hakeem;2551979 said:
well, on the fun side alone is not better.
and the fact that Batman has to share the spotlight with The Joker, Harvey Dent/Two-Face and Gordon in this one goes against it. in Spiderman 2 the character with the big decisions and dilemmas was still Peter/Spidey, here Batman is behind Harvey Dent on that sense. Batman is also not the coolest character in the movie (that goes to Ledger's Joker, of course), while in Spiderman he still was it even with such a great character as Doc Ock was.

plus, as I said before, I dont completely love this Bruce and Batman as characters (in this one and Begins) with the raspy voice, Batman too dark and Bruce with the extra cocky/asshole attitude (Bruce is just not a very likeable person). On the other hand, I loved Spiderman in the first 2 movies (not so much in the third one with the whole black suit and the emo attitude).
So, you are comparing this movie to Spiderman 2..... So in your favorite movies of all time list, where exactly does the Spiderman 2 stands?
 

twigsanberries

Youth Team
Relax fellas... Hakeem has good taste in movies. Plus, it's everybody's opinion that's different. Hakeem brings out the fact that he doesn't like the darker Batman. I loved it. It's a personal preference. Even though Batman is good, in my mind he is just as twisted as the Joker. Parents murdered, his whole life based on "cleansing" the evil through vigilante justice. I think he was portrayed correctly. I would have wanted him to rival the Joker in insanity but then again there has to be good and evil so meh. Better than Spidey 2 in my book - again, everybody's preference is unique.

What we can all agree on though is that anal is the preferred sexual intercourse method am I right or am I right?
 

Hakeem

Superman
Spiderman is nowhere near my favorites movies of all time list!

The dark Knight could've been just a regular crime/mob/thriller movie and it would've worked just perfect, it could've been done without Batman, and that plays against in IMO when Im (of course) comparing it to other movies in its genre, which is the superhero genre.

btw, please note that I still think this movie is excellent anyway and I do loved it and recomment it, but personally, mostly for the fact that this representation of Batman (the dark one from the Miller comics) is not the one I love the most (that would be the one from the 90s animated series), I prefer the more fun but also serious Spiderman 2.
 

King

My ass smells like your mom
So, lets say you had two categories. One is more of a fun loving movies and another one is of a classic types movie. So where would you put The Dark Knight and Spiderman 2. You know there are this movies that are slow and sometimes boring but they are classics and there are this movies that are full of fun but not classics.


9.7/10 for 23,600 votes on IMDB. #1 in the top 250.
$66.4 m in its opening night.
 

Help?

Fan Favourite
So i understand Hakeem likes the Spiderman character more than Batman character. How about the movie in itself as a whole package. Would you prefer Spiderman 2 movie or The Dark Knight?




I haven't seen Miller's comics, but i heard some messed up **** about Batman comics. Something like Robin 1 dies, Robin 2 dies, Batgirl gets raped etc. I liked the Cartoon Network's Batman series a lot as well, and we did get 4 movies for that kind of Batman. I haven't gotten a chance to see the movie yet, so i can't say too much about it, but from what i hear he is supposed to be sort of an anti-hero and be a little crazy.
 

Hakeem

Superman
Help?;2552322 said:
So i understand Hakeem likes the Spiderman character more than Batman character. How about the movie in itself as a whole package. Would you prefer Spiderman 2 movie or The Dark Knight?

King;2552314 said:
So, lets say you had two categories. One is more of a fun loving movies and another one is of a classic types movie. So where would you put The Dark Knight and Spiderman 2. You know there are this movies that are slow and sometimes boring but they are classics and there are this movies that are full of fun but not classics.

I don't think any of them are classics, but I see what you mean, and so let me add another movie to the mix: Iron Man.

I liked Iron Man more than I liked The Dark Knight, but I know The Dark Knight is the better movie. With Spiderman 2, I still think it's the better movie and I like it more.

Best Superhero Movies: Spidey 2, TDK, X2, BB, Spidey 1, Iron Man
Favorite Superhero Movies: Spidey 2, X2, Iron Man, TDK, Spidey 1, BB
 

SlayerDeuS

Starting XI
Hakeem;2551859 said:
Agree. Better than Begins, darker, bigger in scope, with Gotham being a real city now, and with more important characters than before. The movie belongs to two of them, and weirdly enough none is Batman.
First and foremost is The Joker, played by the late Heath Ledger. Twisted, scarier and crazier than before. He's no circus clown and there aren't silly jokes coming from him, this is a scarred man that personifies pure evil. He says he does everything at random and on the moment, but it's not true, from the very beginning of the movie he's in total control. This Joker is truly one of the greatest villains of all time.
At the other end of the spectrum is Harvey Dent, whom the city calls its White Knight. Played by Aaron Eckhart, this guy is pure goodness and justice, getting rid of all the corrupt and bad people in Gotham. His turn as Two-Face towards the end is very well done but I could've done without it, Dent was just too good.
Then there's Batman, again with the raspy voice I don't like very much. My main problems with Batman Begins were in the origin story, and so since we're past that now then it's all good. The new bike that comes out of the Batmobile is great, and some of Batman's new gadgets are very good, except for the sonar radar system which is very stupid.
The rest of the characters are all good too, Gary Oldman's Gordon is the most normal person in the movie, and also the 4th most important character in the story. Then Michael Caine's Alfred and Morgan Freeman's Lucius Fox provide the wise commentary and support, and finally Maggie Gyllenhaal as the new Rachel Dawes is very good too.
All in all, the movie is excellent though still not better than Spidey 2.


if you think the whole idea of two-face was not worth it then i'm afraid you missed the entire point of "the dark knight". i do admit that you do have a very classy taste in film hak but maybe you should check this one out again. i do have only one minor qualm with the film and it has to do with the emotionless bruce wayne alter-ego. there was never grief, anger or any emotion shown from him unless he was wearing his suit....i really wish that bale was given the opportunity to try to match ledger's performance.
 

King

My ass smells like your mom
Hakeem;2552461 said:
I don't think any of them are classics, but I see what you mean, and so let me add another movie to the mix: Iron Man.

I liked Iron Man more than I liked The Dark Knight, but I know The Dark Knight is the better movie. With Spiderman 2, I still think it's the better movie and I like it more.

Best Superhero Movies: Spidey 2, TDK, X2, BB, Spidey 1, Iron Man
Favorite Superhero Movies: Spidey 2, X2, Iron Man, TDK, Spidey 1, BB

Ahh very well. I still haven't seen TDK and Hellboy 2 but this is what i think....

BB>Ironman>Spiderman 2> X2>Spiderman 3>Spiderman 1

Its still going strong on IMDB. 47K votes and the rating is still 9.7/10.

First, I thought BB stood for Bird Babe! (H)
 

rony31

Team Captain
watched a ****in 1:30am showing last night. as good as it gets, worth all the hype for sure. Ledger and Eckhart stole the show, Bale was pretty bland and got totally outshined but who cares. I dont really like Bale as Batman when he's in the suit, his raspy voice annoys me, sounds way too forced.
 

Hakeem

Superman
SlayerDeuS;2552549 said:
if you think the whole idea of two-face was not worth it then i'm afraid you missed the entire point of "the dark knight".

nah, of course, I'm saying that I loved the Harvey Dent character so much that I wanted more of it but obviously that Two-face is crucial and needed and I did like it.

SlayerDeuS;2552549 said:
I do admit that you do have a very classy taste in film hak but maybe you should check this one out again.

thanks, and don't worry, Im definetly going to be seeing this one again many times. BB I dont usually revisit much, but this movie is just worth watching again and again for Ledger's and Eckhart's performance.

SlayerDeuS;2552549 said:
i do have only one minor qualm with the film and it has to do with the emotionless bruce wayne alter-ego. there was never grief, anger or any emotion shown from him unless he was wearing his suit....i really wish that bale was given the opportunity to try to match ledger's performance.

agree, Batman {SPOILER} gets angry and revengeful of The Joker towards the end after Rachel is killed but you wouldnt get it from Bale's performance prior to that. he does get to act a bit as bruce when he tells Alfred that Rachel was going to stay with him and all that (we know she wasn't going to from the letter). {END SPOILER}
 


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