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BFL TEAM 14 Editing

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RobbieD_PL;3610194 said:
Hi Svence, Another thing. For Stade de France I think that the transparent banners on the 2nd and 3rd tiers from the bottom need some kind of concrete barriers too.

Also for tournament banners, shawminator suggested this to arianos:
Latter I`ll show you Stade de france in game. Than show me which transparent banners must have concrete barriers. Now I can`t understand you. Do you mean the fences?
 

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BFL TEAM;3610211 said:
Latter I`ll show you Stade de france in game. Than show me which transparent banners must have concrete barriers. Now I can`t understand you. Do you mean the fences?

Yep, you're right. I meant the transparent fences having concrete barriers underneath them. Sorry about that.



Here's a game in HD at the stadium which I saw on the flight to Aotearoa. You can see how the barriers/fences are constructed; especially good to see when they do a "conversion kick".



This is the playoff game against Ukraine. Even in the thumbnail picture, you can see that there are Equipe de France adboards on the upper tiers. That would be good to have the Eurocopa tournament adboards meshes there.
 

BFL TEAM

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Now I see it. Everything can be done with RM. there is specificstadium files for 3d model and for textures. Like that there will be stadium files which will be used only for ET. Default files will be used for all other games.
So here the progress with Stad de France:
 

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What a beautiful stadium, Svence! Really fantastic and amazing. (H)

Just one small thing:

See the fourth image in your set, with the time 5:01 FRA v ENG where the GK is taking the goalkick; Look at the fences which are in front of the first small tier with blue seats.

It looks like there are four transparent fences when the rest of the stadium has only two transparent fences and concrete barriers underneath the fences.

Also, maybe the underside of the stadium roof can be a bit more darker. How does it look at night-time? (22:00)?

EDIT 2: Another thing: the transparent light blue part of the roof: In my model there are two sides, one on the top, the other on the bottom connecting to the roof, but in your screens it just looks as if there's only the top part.

Looks an incredible stadium, though. Merci de nouveau! Thanks once again!
 

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RobbieD_PL;3610287 said:
What a beautiful stadium, Svence! Really fantastic and amazing. (H)

Just one small thing:

See the fourth image in your set, with the time 5:01 FRA v ENG where the GK is taking the goalkick; Look at the fences which are in front of the first small tier with blue seats.

It looks like there are four transparent fences when the rest of the stadium has only two transparent fences and concrete barriers underneath the fences.

Also, maybe the underside of the stadium roof can be a bit more darker. How does it look at night-time? (22:00)?

EDIT 2: Another thing: the transparent light blue part of the roof: In my model there are two sides, one on the top, the other on the bottom connecting to the roof, but in your screens it just looks as if there's only the top part.

Looks an incredible stadium, though. Merci de nouveau! Thanks once again!
I make the changes that you told, so now there is concrete under the fences and now underside roof is darker. Also there will be possibility for 2 extra adboard with size 128x24(it may to be one with size 256x24) and one with size 384x96 for dressing the stadium with different tournaments covers. I try it and with RM it works without any problems. Covers can be different even for day and night, even for different teams dressing of the stadium can be different. It will increase the size of the stadium, but it will make everything more real! Here you can see the day version with the updates and night with EURO 2016 covers. Even the track around the pitch can be blue for EURO 2016!


The quality of the screens are small and bad, couse of the PC here.
 

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Fantastic screens again. Just some things from me:

1. The bottom part of the transparent roof is still a bit off; it looks grey/black rather than the same blue colour on the top part. Also there only appears to be horizontal lines rather than a lattice pattern (both horizontal & vertical lines). I remember having real trouble with that part converting from FIFA 2003 to latter .o/.fsh too, but somehow I managed to get it done correctly. It was moreso to do with the textures' transparency; I think from memory, the .png (or .gif?) was too "sharp" and the bottom part lost the same transparency as the top one (which is fine).

2. Having a look at the close up of the the stands, the second row of blue stands just has a small concrete barrier with no fence, and fences with no concrete barrier. :P Can you fix this and also put tournament adboard meshes there too?

3. Is there anyway of putting tournament adboards on the substitute benches? Now there is FIFA.com, but for tournaments it'd be good to have the adboards on there. I think maybe that for every two mini boards on the benches with "FIFA.com" on them, you can put a mesh for the tournaments. So there are 10 boards with "FIFA.com" = 5 tournament specific boards.

4. Also, I think that the grey part of the roof is too dark now. The dusk version from before was the best one that you've had. Also, I think that, at night, there is a lighting effect to give the back part of the roof a reddish colour. Your dusk version of the roof was the one closest to that.

Sorry for being a bit pedantic about this; but other than those things - the stadium is perfect.
 

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RobbieD_PL;3611116 said:
Fantastic screens again. Just some things from me:

1. The bottom part of the transparent roof is still a bit off; it looks grey/black rather than the same blue colour on the top part. Also there only appears to be horizontal lines rather than a lattice pattern (both horizontal & vertical lines). I remember having real trouble with that part converting from FIFA 2003 to latter .o/.fsh too, but somehow I managed to get it done correctly. It was moreso to do with the textures' transparency; I think from memory, the .png (or .gif?) was too "sharp" and the bottom part lost the same transparency as the top one (which is fine).

2. Having a look at the close up of the the stands, the second row of blue stands just has a small concrete barrier with no fence, and fences with no concrete barrier. :P Can you fix this and also put tournament adboard meshes there too?

3. Is there anyway of putting tournament adboards on the substitute benches? Now there is FIFA.com, but for tournaments it'd be good to have the adboards on there. I think maybe that for every two mini boards on the benches with "FIFA.com" on them, you can put a mesh for the tournaments. So there are 10 boards with "FIFA.com" = 5 tournament specific boards.

4. Also, I think that the grey part of the roof is too dark now. The dusk version from before was the best one that you've had. Also, I think that, at night, there is a lighting effect to give the back part of the roof a reddish colour. Your dusk version of the roof was the one closest to that.

Sorry for being a bit pedantic about this; but other than those things - the stadium is perfect.
1.Take a look here:
http://stadiumvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/stade-de-france-3.jpg
There is no second transparent roof under the other. There is only big black rings which are there ingame!
2. I can`t understand you. Can you show me?
3. I can add tournament logos, but this one on the top of the benches will be the same, maybe 2 different in best case. And this one on left and right may to be different. So in best case 3 different logos.
4. I`ll play with the roof, for best results ;) !
 

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BFL TEAM;3611126 said:
1.Take a look here:
http://stadiumvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/stade-de-france-3.jpg
There is no second transparent roof under the other. There is only big black rings which are there ingame!
2. I can`t understand you. Can you show me?
3. I can add tournament logos, but this one on the top of the benches will be the same, maybe 2 different in best case. And this one on left and right may to be different. So in best case 3 different logos.
4. I`ll play with the roof, for best results ;) !



EDIT: apparently the fencing is fine. ignore what I said before. I simply noticed that in the video of France v Ukraine there were adboards on the second row of blue seats (second from top), but I'm not sure if those are placed "in front" of the transparent fences on that row. :S Just leave it then. :D

Here there are no aboards (+ panoramic photos may help with roof ;)):
http://totographe.free.fr/public/photos/2008_04/SDFPanorama.jpg
http://www.jarreweb.com/panoramiques/stade-de-france-interieur-coupe-du-monde-rugby-2007.jpg
http://www.iphon.fr/public/2012/Q3/photo-panoramique-iphone-4S-5-v2-7.jpg

For the subs bench, just keep it the same tournament logo for both benches.
 

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RobbieD_PL;3611135 said:


EDIT: apparently the fencing is fine. ignore what I said before. I simply noticed that in the video of France v Ukraine there were adboards on the second row of blue seats (second from top), but I'm not sure if those are placed "in front" of the transparent fences on that row. :S

Here there are no aboards:
http://totographe.free.fr/public/photos/2008_04/SDFPanorama.jpg
http://www.jarreweb.com/panoramiques/stade-de-france-interieur-coupe-du-monde-rugby-2007.jpg

For the subs bench, just keep it the same logo for both benches.
Now I understand you, but as you noticed there is no adboards there. This fences are very good for banners. I`ll put most of the banners there and in front of the fences to the pitch.
 

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BFL TEAM;3611150 said:
Now I understand you, but as you noticed there is no adboards there. This fences are very good for banners. I`ll put most of the banners there and in front of the fences to the pitch.

ohk, for me you can leave it without banners for both that second row and the barriers facing the pitch! It's fine as it is now Svence. (H)

But if you want to put tournament banners there too, that's fine with me also. It's really up to you. But personally, I'd prefer how it is now. Sometimes there can be too many of the adboards. xD
 

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Also Svence, one cool thing:

Are you able to do these boards on the top boards of the basic stadium? (Then for tournaments; each tournament specific boards will cover them)









 

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I've written to stadefrance.com to see if they can send the logo with .COM plus the > > > in the colours from yellow to red. ;)
 

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RobbieD_PL;3611197 said:
Also Svence, one cool thing:

Are you able to do these boards on the top boards of the basic stadium? (Then for tournaments; each tournament specific boards will cover them)
Yes it is possible. It`s possible to cover the stands with different adboards for different cases. For example this case is when you play only with PSG in Coup of France. Only in this case will be with this adbord covers on the stands. Also they can be different in day and night mode if you want:

In all other cases will be the default stadium:


About Upton soon I`ll show screens with updates. I`m still in Rhino with Upton. When I start with Blender, I`ll need few days to release it. I`m doing my best!
 

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Svence isn't giant, he's a genius! (H)

BTW, When I meant having the "STADEFRANCE" logo, i meant to have it also on the default stadium. I didn't mean to use it just for tournaments, but to have it all the time. The only exception to having it all the time; when each tournament's adboards (for EURO, World Cup, UCL. Europa League etc.) go on top of them. It's much better to have that on the default stadium than the pale blue boards on the top part which just look like the seats anyway.

Svence, have you seen the allocation of home and away crowd in the original model? (i kept the original meshes for crowds and banners, but they are hidden in the .3dm ;))
 

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BFL TEAM;3602140 said:
The stadium will work as new added with some limitation, lika when you play at 8:00, 8:30, 9:00 and 9:30, you`ll have day shadows. If you want to play at night it is better to be at 10:00. This is the only problem that I know. Also you`ll need to change some ids in glares.inx files to work with new stadium id. This must be changed:
<particleEffect name="glares_176_3"> to <particleEffect name="glares_300_3">, or whatever id you are using. This line are second in all .inx files. Just save after the changes.

i have this problem too when playing at night with added stadium...where can i find this "glares.inx"?
 


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