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Blue Sq. Project

scouser09

Senior Squad
scout12;2640843 said:
I still have problems with Wrexham and Mansfield Town

Have you tested it in Manager Mode?

This is my Coca-Cola Two:


Blue Square Premier:
(First two lines)
Team 23. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two Aldershot
Team 24. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two Exeter
...
---------------------------------------------------------
English League Cup:
Group: Q27/28
Team 23. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two Mansfield Town
Team 12. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two Barnet

Group: Q28/28
Team 24. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two Wrexham
Team 18. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two Shrewsbury
---------------------------------------------------------
Johnstone's Paint Trophy:
Group: Q1/16
Team 24. classified of League: Coca-Cola One Luton Town
Team 24. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two Wrexham

Group: Q2/16
Team 23. classified of League: Coca-Cola One Port Vale
Team 23. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two Mansfield Town

I change Mansfield Town ---> Aldershot, Wrexham ---> Exeter in the JPT and League Cup and Aldershot ---> Mansfield Town, Exeter ---> Wrexham in Blue Square Premier then save, close CM. Reopen CM, and Mansfield Town & Wrexham are back again in the JPT and League Cup. Can you spot my mistake?

PS Thanks for Kettering Town away kit.

The problem is that you are changing the teams not the references to league positions. You need to click on the team button and change Team "23. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two" and "Team 24. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two" to "Winner of League : Blue Square Premier" and "Winner of Final : Blue Square Premier Playoff". This should update the teams automatically.

Thanks for the rest of the rival team data.

hon3ydrip70: I have noticed a mistake in Welling's home kit. The short sleeves are white and the long sleeves are red, both should be red. Could you update this kit?

jorge: Good work, nearly all teams have proper gk kits now.
 

scout12

Youth Team
scouser09;2641072 said:
The problem is that you are changing the teams not the references to league positions. You need to click on the team button and change Team "23. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two" and "Team 24. classified of League: Coca-Cola Two" to "Winner of League : Blue Square Premier" and "Winner of Final : Blue Square Premier Playoff". This should update the teams automatically.
Thanks for advice, but it doesn't work for me. I tried it last week (beta v.1.0), as a result, ALL my Blue Square Premier teams competed in the JPT and League cup. Now I have v.1.1, I tried it again. Have a look, York City calendar:



I really hope it works for you. We should know whether
- promotions and relegations work properly.
- promoted teams get sponsors. If sponsorship doesn't work, we have a major problem, because it's almost impossible to climb up high without additional funds.
 

Goooner

Club Supporter
Fantastic work guys! You make a very good team i must say! Also great news on the lower leagues! I am also about to release first proper beta of my FIFA Manager Patch and thanks to you, it's looking really good. When im done with this first thing im gonna do is have long game of your beta.

I really do hope the community appreciates the amount of effort it takes to build this amount of leagues and the depth it adds to what is obviously the best footballing nation in the world ;)
 

scouser09

Senior Squad
scout12;2641164 said:
Thanks for advice, but it doesn't work for me. I tried it last week (beta v.1.0), as a result, ALL my Blue Square Premier teams competed in the JPT and League cup. Now I have v.1.1, I tried it again. Have a look, York City calendar:



I really hope it works for you. We should know whether
- promotions and relegations work properly.
- promoted teams get sponsors. If sponsorship doesn't work, we have a major problem, because it's almost impossible to climb up high without additional funds.

I will export the updated cups soon as I have made the corrections and they work in tournament mode for me (they have not been tested in career mode yet). I have also made some updates to the FA Cup and Setanta Shield as some teams did not enter in the correct round. I have also updated the JPT as last years league 1 promoted teams entered instead of the championship's relegated teams. I also plan to update the league cup as it does not have the correct structure.

York City's callender shows problems as they are entering competitions they should not, I will test my game to see if the same problems exist. I will also test a few teams in career mode to make sure they are entering the correct competitions. I can not check that promotions and relegations work correctly as I am making alot of changes to the game and this will cause problems with a saved career (I would have to finish the season to see the changes).

I have also solved the no sponser money problem, the money was related to the league's prestige value. All the new leagues had values of 0 and these have now been changed to 3 for the national division and 2 for the north and south divisions. Sponsers now offer money!

Goooner: Thanks, the final version is not too far away so you might get to play with that instead. It should include all the missing gk kits for you patch.
 

scout12

Youth Team
Great news! Bloody sponsors now offer money! Well done, scouser!! Looking forward to the next beta release, then I'll test Manager mode thoroughly.
Goooner: Thanks, waiting for your final FIFA Manager Patch.
 

scouser09

Senior Squad
Here is an update for the english cups. This should hopefully solve your problem scout. There is no point in making another beta right now as the tournaments are the only major update.

http://files.filefront.com/13483382

-League Cup structure is changed to the real structure (1st round is staged over 2 rounds in game as there are too many ties to fit in one round, like the new FA Cup)
-League Cup and JPT now include teams promoted from conference national instead of teams relegated from league 2.
-JPT now has championship relegated teams instead of league 1 promoted teams.
-All competitions now have teams entering at the correct stage.
 

scout12

Youth Team
First of all, good update. In my game "Winner of Final : Blue Square Premier Playoff" was changed to "2.classified of League: Blue Square Premier" (JPT & League cup, CM) and annoying problem with BSQ Premier teams plaing in the JPT and League cup was fixed.
I picked Wrexham, one of the best teams in the Conference National, and played a couple of seasons in Manager Mode. Actually 95% of the matches were simulated.
Promotions and relegations work fine. Have a look.


Promoted teams from the North/South divisions


Wrexham finished top of the BSQ Premier and were promoted. Next season they played in the Coca-Cola League 2, JPT, FA Cup and League Cup.
Then they finished second and marched through playoffs towards Coca-Cola League 2, JPT, FA Cup and League Cup. Nothing unusual.
Attention! After that I made them lose playoff game (remember, they finished second), they were not promoted and despite this played in the JPT and League Cup next season. Why? Because actually they were "2.classified of League: Blue Square Premier".
I know, it doesn't happen too often, but you should be warned beforehand. And this is the only bug I've found.
 

scout12

Youth Team
scouser09;2641187 said:
I have also solved the no sponser money problem, the money was related to the league's prestige value. All the new leagues had values of 0 and these have now been changed to 3 for the national division and 2 for the north and south divisions. Sponsers now offer money!
I think it should be like this:
Premier- 2, Nort/South- 1.
Sponsors should pay clubs less than they spend on players' wages (see Football League ).
 

scouser09

Senior Squad
scout12;2641658 said:
First of all, good update. In my game "Winner of Final : Blue Square Premier Playoff" was changed to "2.classified of League: Blue Square Premier" (JPT & League cup, CM) and annoying problem with BSQ Premier teams plaing in the JPT and League cup was fixed.
I picked Wrexham, one of the best teams in the Conference National, and played a couple of seasons in Manager Mode. Actually 95% of the matches were simulated.
Promotions and relegations work fine. Have a look.


Promoted teams from the North/South divisions


Wrexham finished top of the BSQ Premier and were promoted. Next season they played in the Coca-Cola League 2, JPT, FA Cup and League Cup.
Then they finished second and marched through playoffs towards Coca-Cola League 2, JPT, FA Cup and League Cup. Nothing unusual.
Attention! After that I made them lose playoff game (remember, they finished second), they were not promoted and despite this played in the JPT and League Cup next season. Why? Because actually they were "2.classified of League: Blue Square Premier".
I know, it doesn't happen too often, but you should be warned beforehand. And this is the only bug I've found.

This is great news. Thanks for testing an entire season.

I already know about the bug you found, if you enter teams in cups by playoff finish, they are not selectable in tournament mode. This was the closest solution found.

I chose the league prestige values with the future level 7 patch in mind (these leagues would be 1) however if you think the sponsership money is currently too much I will change it to your suggestion.

I think the patch is nearly finished now, I think jorge might make a few more gk kits first though. I was thinking about one more beta version soon, this will become the final version if no changes need to be made.

I also think we should add the FA Trophy. Since there are plans to add level 7 teams in the future, this competition will be different from the Setanta Shield. Also if you wanted to avoid the extra fixtures in career mode you could uncheck "Appears in career mode". Would you be able to make the trophy graphic?


wwwescape: Do you mean in one cmp file? If so this is the plan.
 

scout12

Youth Team
I think that sponsors offer too much money. If you don't get crazy and buy a bunch of players, you will probably finish season having a couple of million. Even League 1 teams don't have so much money. That's why I think we should change Prestige value for Premier to 2, for North/South divisions to 1. Level 7 teams will have 1 as well, but their starting budget will be smaller.
And what about "Level" value? All BSQ leagues have 1, Coca Cola 2 - 4, Coca Cola 1 - 3. Should we change it to 5 and 6?

There is one bad mistake in EFA cup. 1st Qualifying round, Group: Q5/8, Team 2. classified of League: Coca-Cola Championship Stock City - ??? Could you correct this mistake? Last year Manchester City reached UEFA Cup through the Premier League's Fair Play table. Maybe we should give a chance to one more Premier League's team?

The FA Trophy. York City's schedule looks tough. I 'm going to use my reservs in this competition.

 

scouser09

Senior Squad
scout12;2642072 said:
I think that sponsors offer too much money. If you don't get crazy and buy a bunch of players, you will probably finish season having a couple of million. Even League 1 teams don't have so much money. That's why I think we should change Prestige value for Premier to 2, for North/South divisions to 1. Level 7 teams will have 1 as well, but their starting budget will be smaller.
And what about "Level" value? All BSQ leagues have 1, Coca Cola 2 - 4, Coca Cola 1 - 3. Should we change it to 5 and 6?

There is one bad mistake in EFA cup. 1st Qualifying round, Group: Q5/8, Team 2. classified of League: Coca-Cola Championship Stock City - ??? Could you correct this mistake? Last year Manchester City reached UEFA Cup through the Premier League's Fair Play table. Maybe we should give a chance to one more Premier League's team?

The FA Trophy. York City's schedule looks tough. I 'm going to use my reservs in this competition.


I will change the prestige values to your suggestions, the levels have already been fixed. That is quite odd in the EFA (UEFA) Cup, the Coca Cola Championship winners (West Brom) are in the group stage as well. I do not think that it is our patch which made the changes, rather mistakes by EA (can anyone confirm this?). There is a Champions League patch (with an updated UEFA Cup i think) http://files.filefront.com/UEFA+PATCHcmp/;13261051;/fileinfo.html. I have downloaded it but have not imported it yet. If this has an improved UEFA Cup there is no point in us making changes if it has already been done.

Good trophy graphic by the way. Isn't that resolution avalible in the game options?
 

scout12

Youth Team
scouser09;2642276 said:
That is quite odd in the EFA (UEFA) Cup, the Coca Cola Championship winners (West Brom) are in the group stage as well. I do not think that it is our patch which made the changes, rather mistakes by EA (can anyone confirm this?).
It's one of the EA bugs, confirmed.

scouser09;2642276 said:
Isn't that resolution avalible in the game options?
Nope.

Are you planning to add some non-conference teams to the patch? If the answer is positive, I'll make a generic adboard set for them.
 

scouser09

Senior Squad
scout12;2642325 said:
It's one of the EA bugs, confirmed.

Nope.

Are you planning to add some non-conference teams to the patch? If the answer is positive, I'll make a generic adboard set for them.

Thanks for checking. I was planning to add a few lower divison teams to the patch initially but instead I am going to add them later. I plan to add the Northern Premier League (Unibond League) and if Complex01 or anyone else helps then also the Southern and Ismithian leagues. Plus maybe a few other teams but these would just be added to cups (any requests?). A generic set for these divisions would be great.


Jorge: Are you going to make the rest of the missing gk kits? Only the following gk kits are missing now:
Tamworth
Bognor Regis Town
Fisher Athletic
 

jorge78

Youth Team
scouser09;2642710 said:
Jorge: Are you going to make the rest of the missing gk kits? Only the following gk kits are missing now:
Tamworth
Bognor Regis Town
Fisher Athletic

yes, I think tomorrow I can do the kits.
 

scouser09

Senior Squad
jorge78;2643149 said:
last gk kits, tamworth, bognor and fisher

Thanks jorge, all kits are finished now. I will export beta 1.3 soon. If no changes need to be made it will become the final version
 


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