**BREAKING NEWS" Mourinho Has Left Chelsea !!!

[pede54]

Well, Jose said that the only time he would leave Chelsea is when he is offered the job as coach of the Portuguese Natonal side.

Scolari has been banned for 4 games because of his disgraceful behaviour the other night and I believe he is about to get the sack. Jose will finally get the job that he has craved all his life.

It's a day of mixed emotions for me. On one hand I'm very sad to see him go. He is a fantastic coach and has bought much success to Chelsea. Sure he rubbed people up the wrong way sometimes but that was a plus as far as Chelsea fans are concerned.

It's obvious how much he is feared as a coach when I read the between the lines of some of the stupid posts in this thread. I sense a major feeling of relief from fans of other clubs. Everone knows that as a coach he is top class but to say that Jose IS chelsea is just plain stupid.

To be honest I don't think that Jose could take us much further than he has done. As much as I hate to say it, I think the guy had finally run out of ideas to take the club forward.

His style of coaching bought Chelsea much success that is true and he will always be a chelsea legend. The most successful manager that we have ever had, but I think we are all aware that something has been missing lately. His heart has NOT been in it at all this season, that was obvious just from the interviews that he has given lately. He has looked depressed and his normal humour just has not been there.

So it's business as usual. Jose out and Avram in (for now anyway). There's nothing that we as fans can do but get behind him and Clarkey. I dont see much change on the pitch apart from the fact that maybe Grant will do what Jose never did, and that's allow these superb players that we have to go out there and express themselves. Free of constaint, these players should now step to the fore and tear the EPL open.

Something had to change at Chelsea because although Jose took the EPL by storm in his first two seasons, his tactics had become very predictable. Proof of this is the ease with which opposing teams have managed to contain us this season. The game with Rosenborg was a fine example. We not only booed off the team at Stamford Bridge that night, we also booed off Jose for turning our barnstorming team into boredom personified. We as fans are tired of the lack of goals and the lack of complete dominance. We needed to move forward and begin to combine winning with winning wth a little style. I don't think Jose could quite manage that.

Lets face it, if a coach cannot produce a side that play attractive and WINNING football with all those players at his disposal, then really I think it's gotta be time to call it a day.

I am a Chelsea supporter. Through thick and thin I will always be a Chelsea supporter. Whoever the coach is I will always be a Chelsea supporter. I supported Chelsea long long before Jose Mourinho was ever heard of and his departure does not change anything. Actually this could turn out to be very positive indeed. I am hoping so. If not, so what? My life still goes on. It's only football FFS.

Anyway thanks Jose for all you did. You will always be cherished by Chelsea fans and I wish you all the luck in the World . Erm...but not when Portugal play England of course

 

[Tom]

Ever the optimist Pete, i love you dude cos you make me laugh, but god you say some stupid stuff at times.

But still, many many valid points in the above post, just a few silly ones.

Agree with you though, that most (if not all) clubs feared Chelsea under Jose. I just think your SLIGHT, and it is only SLIGHT abuse of Jose's quality this season, and saying that he couldnt take the club any further - is misplaced, and that you're only saying it because he's gone.

Apart from that, decent post and i agree in the most part.

 

[Filipower]

good post Pete, but i have to say throwing him off when things start going worse is not the best move, or else Roman will catch himself firing a lot of managers in the coming years..

anyway, mourinho won't come to the NT just yet, and he'll probably "rest" untill the end of the season...at least that's the smart thing to do..

 

[Stotty]

I think the best thing for the club now would be for Roman to take the managerial job himself and wreak havoc.

 

[tracertong]

Chelsea say Mourinho had to leave.......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7004780.stm

 

[pede54]

Cheers Tom.

If you visit Chelsea fansites, you will find that I'm not the only one who thinks Jose's time had to be limited. It's not just this seasons problems. This season is still to young to be condemning him for failure of any sort. After all we have the same points at this stage of the season as we had last season, so although the performances have been dissapointing we are still in contention.

I hear from people at Chelsea that Jose has also been at loggerheads with some of the senior Chelsea players too. They have also not been happy with Jose lately. It seems he would not even consider listening to the opinions of his Captain. It is being said that after Jose and JT had finished arguing, that Jose threatened to drop JT from the team and as Captain. If this is true then Jose had indeed lost it.

JT it seems made his feelings clear to Jose that he didn't like the way that Jose compared some Chelsea players to 3rd rate eggs, feeling that this did nothing at all to boost those players confidence, in fact it did the opposite. Tension in the dressing room it seems might have had a lot to do with Jose leaving.

Jose in the past has always boosted the players morale and confidence but to come out with such a massive put down angered the club captain and many of the players. If a manager loses the dressing room then its game over as far as he is concerned.

We are used to Jose blaming everyone but himself, its something that he has always done, but to turn on the players like that after they followed his instructions to the letter is unforgivable really.

To go on TV and to slag off those players who worked so hard for him was the breaking point for JT. Never before had Jose turned on the players as an excuse for failure. He has always protected his players in the past. I think this was a sign that he at last was running out of people to blame but himself. I can understand the players feeling pissed off with him. Once that happened there was only gonna be one outcome.

 

[pede54]

good post Pete, but i have to say throwing him off when things start going worse is not the best move, or else Roman will catch himself firing a lot of managers in the coming years..

anyway, mourinho won't come to the NT just yet, and he'll probably "rest" untill the end of the season...at least that's the smart thing to do..

Fili, Chelsea have a long history of letting successful coaches leave. Jose aint the first and he won't be the last.

 

[Filipower]

i know but i only thought Chelsea would give some credit to the guy who gave 'em the best years of their history...i'm not feeling sorry for Mourinho or anything, quite the opposite really, i mean now he'll go wherever he wants and he's millions of euros richer , but it almost feels like firing alex fergusson really..

i don't believe chelsea will start losing every single game now and end up at division three, but i also don't believe that they'll win much..i mean if Abramovich wanted the champions league trophy, a move like this ain't going to get him that very soon..

 

[Tom]

Nah i see what you're saying Pete, but i just don't agree. I think it was the Express that read the headline about JT losing it with Jose - enough said.

Two things, one, no player is bigger than the club, and i agree that no manager is bigger than the club either, i agree. But we all know this has come from the top, from Roman, from Kenyon, maybe from Buck - i don't know the other shareholders who hold some form of power. And it's come because of the fact that Jose had essentially done things to piss them off, it was clear he never wanted Andriy Shevchenko - blatantly clear. Or Grant for that matter. Things such as these, where his responses were bordering on actually going public on such matters, were the problem.

Secondly, it's inane to say that Jose had lost the dressing room. I'm sure there were some who were none too happy about his methods, but as with all clubs, those players would have been the ones playing. Again, Shevvy and Ballack. Or maybe even people like Cuidicini, just generally players not getting much of a chance. But the rest of the team were always Jose's players, and to suggest that he'd "lost" the dressing room is a joke.

However, i do agree with your point that maybe Jose's heart wasnt entirely in it anymore, as he did seem to carry the persona of a man destined for death row - prolonging his verdict with the more wins he could amass. To get rid of that lingering ... shadow of death that seemed to constantly encircle Jose is a good thing at least! Every single day in the press we had more and more speculation, and you're right - with that gone maybe it'll be better.

But the fact of the matter for me, is that Mourinho had the backing of the team, and as a tactician and strategist, he was the best manager in the world. Replacing him with Grant, who, i admit, i do not know much about other than he spent many years in Israel, is not the same.

But hey, good for all us guys, cos i'll bet money right now that at least this season - you won't be as good as you would be if you still had Jose at the helm. It will be interesting to see who takes over on a long term basis though - if not Grant.

 

[pede54]

Fili, Well mate, that seems like the likely outcome on the surface, but you know what football is like. It is just so unpredictable. I don't quite know why but I actually feel excited now by what the future may hold for us. As you rightly say, we are hardly gonna drop intop the 3rd division are we.

The chances of doing even better than before are just as likely as the club doing worse is it not?

Nobody knows Grant. Nobody had heard of Wenger either before he came to Arsenal, so I think the guy deserves his chance.

 

[yoyo913]

I actually think Inter would be a great place for Morinho, I think his style would go well in Seria A. Morratti (Inter owner) would allow him to run the show. And Mancini hasn't started the year too well, especially with yesterdays loss to Fener.

 

[Filipower]

absolutely, there's no way chelsea are going to do worse than they did before mourinho (although i hope they do ), but i do have a feeling Grant won't last long, Roman doesn't seem the type of guy who would miss an opportunity like Rijkaard, Lippi or such..

 

[pede54]

Nah i see what you're saying Pete, but i just don't agree. I think it was the Express that read the headline about JT losing it with Jose - enough said.

Two things, one, no player is bigger than the club, and i agree that no manager is bigger than the club either, i agree. But we all know this has come from the top, from Roman, from Kenyon, maybe from Buck - i don't know the other shareholders who hold some form of power. And it's come because of the fact that Jose had essentially done things to piss them off, it was clear he never wanted Andriy Shevchenko - blatantly clear. Or Grant for that matter. Things such as these, where his responses were bordering on actually going public on such matters, were the problem.

Secondly, it's inane to say that Jose had lost the dressing room. I'm sure there were some who were none too happy about his methods, but as with all clubs, those players would have been the ones playing. Again, Shevvy and Ballack. Or maybe even people like Cuidicini, just generally players not getting much of a chance. But the rest of the team were always Jose's players, and to suggest that he'd "lost" the dressing room is a joke.

However, i do agree with your point that maybe Jose's heart wasnt entirely in it anymore, as he did seem to carry the persona of a man destined for death row - prolonging his verdict with the more wins he could amass. To get rid of that lingering ... shadow of death that seemed to constantly encircle Jose is a good thing at least! Every single day in the press we had more and more speculation, and you're right - with that gone maybe it'll be better.

But the fact of the matter for me, is that Mourinho had the backing of the team, and as a tactician and strategist, he was the best manager in the world. Replacing him with Grant, who, i admit, i do not know much about other than he spent many years in Israel, is not the same.

But hey, good for all us guys, cos i'll bet money right now that at least this season - you won't be as good as you would be if you still had Jose at the helm. It will be interesting to see who takes over on a long term basis though - if not Grant.

The stuff I wrote was told to me by Gavin Peacock and believe me mate, he knows about everything that happens at Chelsea. If he says that JT and Jose argued then argue they did.

He also said that contrary to many many reports Jose was actually very happy to have Sheva come to the Bridge, even if he did think that maybe he might be a little too old now. It's the press as usual that has made this lie into a fact even though it has never been commented on by Chelsea, Jose or Sheva.

 

[dipset]

well i do kno somethin bout Grant and this is ONE fact, hes noo manager that plays pretty football, hes bout winning just like Jose but of course no where near the caliber. The Israeli side he managed was all about grinding out results. Grant is Roman's puppent, good friends, hopefully RA doest select team . One thing to remember tho is that without Abramovich we wouldnt of gotten Jose. And Abramovich's ambition towards the club is wat any supporter would love to hear from the owner, so respect must be shown. But the way this was dealt with is pure idiotic. And to find a manager that can lock wits with Arsene, Sir Alex, and Benitez will be pretty tough.
One thing is for sure i still support Chelsea, but i do not welcome Grant, i dislike him, any other person could of taken over but Grant nope, not in me. Glad hes a short term replacement

 

[pede54]

I feel for you dip. I can see this is difficult mate.

You gotta remember that ALL OF US are putting Grant on probation. We don't know if he will be a flop or a success. The players he has at Chelsea are a hell of a lot better than he has ever managed anywhere else, so it stands to reason that he will be able to afford to utilise these players in ways that he has only dreamed of in the past.

Of couse non of us are sure of the bloke, but don't condemn him just because he is pals with Roman. That might actually be an advantage in the long run if he is any good.

 

[Capela]

i don't agree with pede54
"I think the guy had finally run out of ideas to take the club forward"
he didn't run out of ideas, he just got tired of all those interferences in his work and lost his motivation
he likes to do things his way, if he can't then he just won't do anything
and as for feeling excited by what the future may hold, i don't see that way. because of mourinho i started following chelsea campaign and starting liking chelsea
but without him i really think that chelsea is screwed

 

[Filipower]

i agree with you on the not running out of ideas, interferences thingy, but i don't agree on the screwed part...they're not better off without him, that's for sure, but it's not like they're going back to mid-table..

 

[Help?]

20 million pound payoff???!!!!!! HAHAHA, who in their right mind wouldn't take that?

 

[Gunnersgoal22]

Not that I'm sad in any way I'll admit I'm gonna miss him a little bit. He's arguably the best manager in the world and in his first two years at Chelsea he made one of the best teams I've ever seen and I must say I did fear him.

His greatest strength and weakness is his ego. I.E. when Wenger or Fergie have gone through spells like this they've made amends and recovered. But I will say that when the players and owner are on his side his team is organized and dominant and breaks points records in the EPL.

As for where he'll end up, the Portuguese national team seems to make sense, but can managing a national team match his ambition for after Euro 08?

And finally for Chelsea, the Sevilla manager seems most likely to me if he can some how get Sevilla to let him leave. It will be interesting this weekend to see how they respond.

 

[pede54]

i don't agree with pede54
"I think the guy had finally run out of ideas to take the club forward"
he didn't run out of ideas, he just got tired of all those interferences in his work and lost his motivation
he likes to do things his way, if he can't then he just won't do anything
and as for feeling excited by what the future may hold, i don't see that way. because of mourinho i started following chelsea campaign and starting liking chelsea
but without him i really think that chelsea is screwed

OK but if he lost his motivation because of interference from those above him, then instead of "running out of ideas", perhaps he just couldn't be bothered any more. That attitude would be no good to us anyway.

I understand that he likes to have the first and last say on everything and to be truthful, I wish those in charge would have left him alone to carry on the fantastic job that he was doing. They didn't leave him alone and he got pissed off by that. Understandable.

I didn't start following Chelsea because of Jose. I supported this club a long time before that, so to me Jose is now history. Great history, but history non the less.

To suggest that Chelsea is screwed just because Jose aint there any more is crap. We existed before he came and we will continue to exist now he is gone. Don't get me wrong, we all love the guy a hell of a lot and his departure is very sad, but I think you are on the wrong lines if you think Chelsea cannot succeed without him. Managers come and go all the time so this is nothing new to football.

Believe me mate, during all my Chelsea years we have been in deeper s.h.i.t than Jose's departure. Compared to some of the crap we've had to survive over the years this just does not compare.