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Captaincy

Ebonix

YELLOW CARD - Sarcasm
It definetly effects the rest of the teams.
The captain needs to be at least 24 with about 20 int caps, long time at the club and high influence
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
It affects the whole teams morale.

I mean, you may take Keane off of being Captain and give it to O'Shea. That would piss Keane off, raise the morale of O'shea, but at the same time, he is giving players like Beckham, Keane, and RvN orders, and they probably don't have enough respect for him yet.

Look around the squad, see who players think are an essential squad member.

High Work rate, influence, determination and teamwork are needed for a decent captain.
 

oranjeman

Club Supporter
I have to disagree. The best captains are those with the attributes that you wish all players would have (not Flair ;)). Determination, Bravery, Work Rate, and Influence are all important, and a player that is not a pariah in the dressing room is of course preferred.
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
Originally posted by oranjeman
I have to disagree. The best captains are those with the attributes that you wish all players would have (not Flair ;)). Determination, Bravery, Work Rate, and Influence are all important, and a player that is not a pariah in the dressing room is of course preferred.

Tag-along :p
 

oranjeman

Club Supporter
Originally posted by voetballiefhebb
Tag-along :p
You didn't note bravery, and I forgot to mention that the hidden mental stats are very, very important as well! Get coach reports and find players' sportmanship, loyalty, and tempermant among others.
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
Bravery?

I doub't that it is important.

Teddy Sheringham is not brave, Zola is not too brave, look at Beckham. He would not get in the way if the ball hit his head and mucked up his £3,000 hair style. :D
 

Tom

That Nice Guy
what are you on about!? Of course bravery matters. Im sure Keane would make a great captain if his bravery was 2!??? All the other things are correct. Oranjeman, i agree, hidden attributes are very important, it is very useful for a captain to have high consitency, this inspires the other players as they will rely on him as the rock of the team. An inconsistent leader is hardly going to inspire confidence in his troops!

TROD.
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
Bravery
A player's bravery rating determines how likely he is to take risks during a match, especially when there's some chance of injury. Bravery is particuarly important in deciding whether a player will go for a 50/50 ball.

I don't see nothing about captaincy. Do you?

Funny you mentioned Roy Keane, countering your arguament, I am going to mention why does the AI chose Zidane as Real's captain after Hierro's gone? Zidane has a bravery of 9.

Joe Cole, bravery 6. Youngest West Ham captain since Bobby.
Bergkamp, bravery 10, one of the most intelligent and respected modern day footballers.
Ballack bravery 10.
Henry, bravery 10.

I rest my case.
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
Originally posted by TROD
An inconsistent leader is hardly going to inspire confidence in his troops!

TROD.

Where has someone with 20 bravery who will go for 50/50 balls, may catch a player late, studs showing, and get's sent off.

What kind of influence is that setting for the youngsters at the club?
 

oranjeman

Club Supporter
Originally posted by voetballiefhebb
Where has someone with 20 bravery who will go for 50/50 balls, may catch a player late, studs showing, and get's sent off.

What kind of influence is that setting for the youngsters at the club?
Gareth, you are getting BRAVERY and TEMPERMENT mixed up. A player with an even head and high bravery will not back down from hard challenges, but won't go in with two footed lunges every other tackle.
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
Originally posted by oranjeman
Gareth, you are getting BRAVERY and TEMPERMENT mixed up. A player with an even head and high bravery will not back down from hard challenges, but won't go in with two footed lunges every other tackle.

No I am not. I am quoting from the official CM guide. I guess they are wrong too then.

Yes Andy, you're correct and the game developers are wrong.
 

oranjeman

Club Supporter
Originally posted by voetballiefhebb
No I am not. I am quoting from the official CM guide. I guess they are wrong too then.

Yes Andy, you're correct and the game developers are wrong.
The official CM guide is a bunch of quickly-gathered bull**** to make money off foolish gits like you ;). But why would something like BRAVERY hurt a player? Bravery is not equal to recklessness, and that's why I'd rather have someone with 20 Bravery than 1 Bravery with the armband for me.
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
Well that's your opinion.

Bravery also reflects if the player is willing to peform a diving header or bicycle kick.

I never knew recklesness was an attribute either.
 

oranjeman

Club Supporter
Originally posted by voetballiefhebb
Well that's your opinion.

Bravery also reflects if the player is willing to peform a diving header or bicycle kick.

I never knew recklesness was an attribute either.
Recklessness isn't an attribute per se, but I see that as a combination of a few hidden mental attributes that can make a player like Roy Keane pick up 20 cautions in a single year.
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
Originally posted by oranjeman
Recklessness isn't an attribute per se, but I see that as a combination of a few hidden mental attributes that can make a player like Roy Keane pick up 20 cautions in a single year.

Take away Bravery and he won't go for 50/50 balls, therefore reducing his disciplinary slate.
 

oranjeman

Club Supporter
Originally posted by voetballiefhebb
Take away Bravery and he won't go for 50/50 balls, therefore reducing his disciplinary slate.
And then you lose your midfield edge, the other team swamps you and your keeper has to pick the ball out of the back of the net. I'd rather get the odd player sent off then a goal conceded.
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
Originally posted by oranjeman
And then you lose your midfield edge, the other team swamps you and your keeper has to pick the ball out of the back of the net. I'd rather get the odd player sent off then a goal conceded.

Well then if he gets sent off, what kind of image does that give to his team mates?

As a leader he should be composed.

I like the team full of nutcasesand skillful players, however, I won't give the armband to a nutter.

Who would you respect more? Keane or Southgate? If Keane starts swearing calling you all sorts of names, your likely to be put under pressure when the same situation arises next time. Te captain does as much as he can, but if the players screw up, then it is down to you as a manager to take the situation into your own hands.
 

oranjeman

Club Supporter
Originally posted by voetballiefhebb
Well then if he gets sent off, what kind of image does that give to his team mates?

As a leader he should be composed.

I like the team full of nutcasesand skillful players, however, I won't give the armband to a nutter.

Who would you respect more? Keane or Southgate? If Keane starts swearing calling you all sorts of names, your likely to be put under pressure when the same situation arises next time. Te captain does as much as he can, but if the players screw up, then it is down to you as a manager to take the situation into your own hands.
To me, my captain should be inspiring and should incite his teammates to give it their all during the entirety of the match. Even though I wouldn't want 11 Roy Keanes, I like the 1 Roy Keane exerting his influence across the entire team. Keane is a strong leader, and I'd want a passionate, headstrong leader to help my team when it really counts.
 
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voetballiefhebb

Guest
Originally posted by oranjeman
To me, my captain should be inspiring and should incite his teammates to give it their all during the entirety of the match. Even though I wouldn't want 11 Roy Keanes, I like the 1 Roy Keane exerting his influence across the entire team. Keane is a strong leader, and I'd want a passionate, headstrong leader to help my team when it really counts.

I'll remember that next time I am 6-2 up against you ;)
 


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