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CHELSEA FC Thread [2005-2006]
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TheBlueBalla
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I definately see your point, but I am of the opinion that Cole should be allowed to grown and develop to play his natural position in the hole behind the strikers. He is still amazing on the wings, and showed a great degree of team spirit and adaptability to jump so wholeheartedly into that role last year, but if its between him playing in midfield and being 4th choice striker, well, I think it has to be midfield: that has to be, even now, where his future lies$teauA said:
Many of us were talking about, if the team werent going to get Essien, a midfield of
-----Maka-----
--Lamps-Cole---
or something to that effect, but having two guys who are bound to go forward, one because hes so good at it, the other because its his nature, might leave the midfield exposed.
Not a chance he is worth that much. Its gonna be the same as drogba, in that people are going to see him have a bad game and then chuckle that Chelsea payed so much, but whatever. If the guy fulfills his potential for Chelsea in the next 10 years, that money will look like a stealmodena_10 said:
Actually, benching Maka wouldnt be an illogical action. He was arguably the teams best and most consistent performer last season. That counts for something this season, and unless he suddenly goes to complete crap, there is no way Essien just pushes him out.faceNside said:
38 million for a bench player would suck: But 38 million for a 22 year old future star who has the luxury of being eased into the squad while learning firsthand from some of the best players, and the best manager and coaches in the world definatey doesnt suck.
And 2 DM's wouldnt be so bad if the the third midfielders name is 'Lampard'. He would have all day to just go forward, snipe goals, pick passes, and barely ever have to worry about getting back. Yikes
The new lineup will probably be like Rusi's. Hopefully, Essien's arrival will bring the best out in Tiago. The guy is only 24 himself.
Phew, well, to put it in perspective: Many Villa fans claimed he was the teams worst player last year: did nothing when he was on the pitch, so they say. Leading into this summer, most chelsea fans, myself included, didnt even factor him into the plans for this years team. Then a supposed move to Pompey for him ended in nothing. Now, he is just viewed as a replacement for Kezman's uselessness on the end of the bench: in short, I dont think he is Depor's calibrericardo said:
Ok, so i know ive been beating the Owen drum for a long time, as has pete, but one crazy idea I had in my head was using Cole to, perhaps, net Baros. I was thinking Benitez would jump at an offer like Baros for Cole + 3 million, simply because they seem to want to be rid of Baros at any cost, and brining in an English youngster might silence the critics of the 'Spanicizing' of Liverpool. Then again, Benitez is no fool, but to me Baros is a somewhat futile, though lionhearted guy. He has trouble scoring, yes, but he always gives 100% on the pitch and to me, people that have such work ethic are indespensible assets.
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Callum
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send joe cole or tiago to united 
TheBlueBalla
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Cole is a Chelsea boy, through and though, so no diceCallum said:send joe cole or tiago to united
but someone in your thread mentioned Maniche and he wouldve been an excellent pickup had he not already left for Mother Russia 3 months ago.Hehe, so apparrently the deal has a new snag: the paperwork
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=339310&cc=5901
Obviously its much ado about nothing, but Lyon have really looked like brats in this whole affair, and this is just the latest installment i guess. But I guess the less the fee actually was, the better.
ricardo said:
The past two seasons haven't been great for him. He suffered an injury while on loan with the Addicks and didn't really recover from it whilst last year he struggled in an average Aston Villa team. However, he has the makings of a good striker...he's pacy for a big guy (6ft3"), has a decent first touch and you've got to remember he's still young, so hopefully he'll regain the form he showed when he was brought into the team in 2002/2003 when he scored 3 in his first three games.
The only negative side about him is that at times his attitude is a bit crap...last year at Villa he often didn't chase back when the team lost the ball and most of the time looked disinterested. I hope we don't sell him but rather loan him out so that he plays regularly and if that is the case I don't think a move abroad would be considered, as the style of play here in the Prem and in la Liga is completely different, which wouldn't be great for his development.
I agree with BlueBalla...he was bought to replace Claude in a couple of seasons but until then he'll probably be played as the third midfielder. He'll probably be on the bench for the first month and will get brought on as a sub for Gudjohnsen/Cole to get used to the pace of the Prem and eventually he'll challenge those two for a starting place.
Oh and I dunno if any of you look in the graphics forum but I made a centenary wallpaper, hope you like it:
http://www.soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?p=1866339#post1866339
TheBlueBalla
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I actually cant tell if youre being serious or just running one big joke. Last week it was Kezman who was the most vital striker, and without him, ManYoosa was gonna rampage to the title. Which is it?mika said:
bah, anyway
Definately agree with Vazza on the thing about C. Cole. The guy was so promising only what, two years ago? Well, I think selling him outright, maybe to a championship calibre club, would be the best way to go. He just hasnt fulfilled any of that potential to the point where he merits a roster spot on a team this talented. Its cruel, but there it is.
Robs analogy is dead on about the transfer wages: everyone slags drogba, but if he cost as much as Kezman nobody would care. It was only the pricetag that determined what people thought of him, not how he had actually done in the past. Anyway, Essien will probably get more of the same treatment, but who cares, this whole saga is over, and he is now a Chelsea boy. Lets hope he doesnt show the same kind of attitude with Jose that he did with Houllier/Aulas
i'd be surprised if Essien didn't get a start...He's been outstanding last season with Lyon, and I considered him as the best player in the french league with Kalou (ex-Auxerre). Many of you make foolish comparisons with Drogba ; first of all they play different positions and its a completely different style of player, and I can tell you Essien was more worth-the-price than Drogba. Essien is a very technical player and has great capacity to keep the ball and penetrate defenses with pace and power. Thus, more than being a great physical defensive midfielder he often goes forward to create chances. I'd put him alongside makelele, replacing robben, duff, shaun-wright phillips, or gudjohnsen. Chelsea could also play with one striker (Crespo, Drogba or Gudjohnsen) and two wingers (Duff and SWP). This tactic would be very efficient to keep the ball and put pressure on the adversary.
Concerning his attitude, he's never had this attitude since the 3 years I've known him, and on the contrary is a very happy-face guy
His attitude on the pitch is also excellent as he puts a lot of effort into his game, similarly to Pascal Chimbonda who was extraodinary against chelsea (by way man of the match) and who also comes from the french league.
Concerning his attitude, he's never had this attitude since the 3 years I've known him, and on the contrary is a very happy-face guy
His attitude on the pitch is also excellent as he puts a lot of effort into his game, similarly to Pascal Chimbonda who was extraodinary against chelsea (by way man of the match) and who also comes from the french league.TheBlueBalla
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ilips said:i'd be surprised if Essien didn't get a start...He's been outstanding last season with Lyon, and I considered him as the best player in the french league with Kalou (ex-Auxerre). Many of you make foolish comparisons with Drogba ; first of all they play different positions and its a completely different style of player, and I can tell you Essien was more worth-the-price than Drogba. Essien is a very technical player and has great capacity to keep the ball and penetrate defenses with pace and power. Thus, more than being a great physical defensive midfielder he often goes forward to create chances. I'd put him alongside makelele, replacing robben, duff, shaun-wright phillips, or gudjohnsen. Chelsea could also play with one striker (Crespo, Drogba or Gudjohnsen) and two wingers (Duff and SWP). This tactic would be very efficient to keep the ball and put pressure on the adversary.
Concerning his attitude, he's never had this attitude since the 3 years I've known him, and on the contrary is a very happy-face guy
Well, thanks for the info on Essien's game and attitude, but lets clarify two things: 1: I dont think his arrival will really replace any of the wingers you mentioned as they are slotted into a completely different role than Essien seems to be. Its pretty clear he was picked up to play in the middle of park
2. The only comparison people drew between he and Drogba was the fact that they were Ligue 1 players who were overspent on, but we have come to expect that from Chelsea.
In any event, id like to see him paired with Makalele as a twin DM who maybe goes forward more with Lampard depending on the situation. Something like
--------Essien----Maka---------
---Duff----Lampard----Robben--
Yowsa.
Anyway, here is an intresting tidbit from JT's new book thats all over alot of other forums: Gives insight as to the "Battle of Blackburn" at Ewood Park, the CC final, and the CL Semifinal at anfield, and gives great insight:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/topst...-anfield-i-broke-down-in-tears-name_page.html
Long read, but def worth it
That's a good read. I feel for Terry, even as a United fan.TheBlueBalla said:Well, thanks for the info on Essien's game and attitude, but lets clarify two things: 1: I dont think his arrival will really replace any of the wingers you mentioned as they are slotted into a completely different role than Essien seems to be. Its pretty clear he was picked up to play in the middle of park
2. The only comparison people drew between he and Drogba was the fact that they were Ligue 1 players who were overspent on, but we have come to expect that from Chelsea.
In any event, id like to see him paired with Makalele as a twin DM who maybe goes forward more with Lampard depending on the situation. Something like
--------Essien----Maka---------
---Duff----Lampard----Robben--
Yowsa.
Anyway, here is an intresting tidbit from JT's new book thats all over alot of other forums: Gives insight as to the "Battle of Blackburn" at Ewood Park, the CC final, and the CL Semifinal at anfield, and gives great insight:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/topst...-anfield-i-broke-down-in-tears-name_page.html
Long read, but def worth it
"Keane" still blows all other books out of the water, though.
becksfranksteve
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RUSI said:
Well this was bound to happen sometime. it seemed strange that all of these good/great players were content sitting on da bench. LET 's get him !!!!! MADRID !!
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