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Could Someone explain relegation

dskingma

Club Supporter
Hi,

Being on the other side of the pond I am trying to figure out the small details of european soccer. Could someone explain how relegation works. I assume that it is possible to play your way out of the top level leagues into the minors or vice versa.

Thanks



Dave
 

jackie4

Starting XI
Its quite simple!

Let me give u the example of my own league.

The team which finishes bottom of the Scottish Premier League is relegated to Division 1 and the Division 1 champs are promoted to the Premier League.
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
yeah

In the Spanish league, there are a few divisions. Those who finish in the bottom three of the first division (Primera Division) go down to second division and the top three from second division go to first. That also happens between 2nd and 3rd and so forth.
 

greenhead

Club Supporter
Basically, relegation is a pressure valve that gets the top teams into the major league and drops the bad teams into the minors. Each country has a hierarchy of leagues, similar to Major League Baseball and the AAA, AA, A classes of minor leagues. Bottom teams from each league are dropped down the hierarchy to the next league down. The top teams from the lower leagues are promoted to replace the teams that moved down.
 

hermolt

Starting XI
No need to be an asshole dude...he obviously didn't understand it.

There are two ways to go up from say, the English First division to the Premier League. There are 3 spots to go up - 1st and 2nd spots go up automatically, spots 3 to 6 go into a small playoff (semi final then final) to determine who of the 4 will go up.

3 teams are 'relegated', or go down from the Premier League to the smaller league, the 1st Division. Clear as mud hey..;)
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
My point is that the guy asked the question, the question was answered twice, and this guy is beating to death. You only further beat the carcass that before it's disfigurement resembled a simple question. I said Americans are stupid (I live in the US also), but they can figure it out after the first and second guy explain.
 

hermolt

Starting XI
Originally posted by Sevillista
My point is that the guy asked the question, the question was answered twice, and this guy is beating to death. You only further beat the carcass that before it's disfigurement resembled a simple question. I said Americans are stupid (I live in the US also), but they can figure it out after the first and second guy explain.

No one explained the playoff vs automatic promotion to the guy. Are you American or do you just live there?
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
I was born in Spain and moved to Minnesota, USA at a young age. I visit my family in Spain in the summer and identify most closely with my Spanish heritage. I enjoy living in America, but I do not like the people or the overall views in society. (This don't not apply to everybody, but the majority): Americans are dumb (there is a significant percentage that cannot locate the US on a map), lazy (obesity is a huge national issue), and ignorant (they hardly know what's going on in the world). My friends in Spain were surprised at my politeness (yes, I'm usually polite), my awareness of issues, and my overall intelligence (average as it may be). That startles me and then I realize that the stereotype is true for many Americans. I like living in America, but I'm not proud to be an American. Does that make sense?
 
H

HydroElectric

Guest
Quit being a bitch Sevillista. If you think Americans are stupid, take your ass out of the USA.
 

Joe

Starting XI
Originally posted by Sevillista
I was born in Spain and moved to Minnesota, USA at a young age. I visit my family in Spain in the summer and identify most closely with my Spanish heritage. I enjoy living in America, but I do not like the people or the overall views in society. (This don't not apply to everybody, but the majority): Americans are dumb (there is a significant percentage that cannot locate the US on a map), lazy (obesity is a huge national issue), and ignorant (they hardly know what's going on in the world). My friends in Spain were surprised at my politeness (yes, I'm usually polite), my awareness of issues, and my overall intelligence (average as it may be). That startles me and then I realize that the stereotype is true for many Americans. I like living in America, but I'm not proud to be an American. Does that make sense?

Get the fück out you scum. I'm ashamed that you actually live in my state, let alone my country. Common sense says that you if you don't like the place, maybe you should move somewhere else?

You know, I want to live somewhere else when I'm older, but, I still love my country, my state.

So get off this ****ing site you moron, besides a few Americans run these forums. :rolleyes:
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
Oh yes, because at the age of 16 in the middle of high school it's so easy to leave America. Like I said, I like living in America, I'm just ashamed of our society. Look at Bush, for example. This is not a credit to my intelligence, but I honestly believe I am smarter than him. If I am not, I can think of many many people that are. The Republican Party is raping our landscape, waging wars where we have no business, and enforcing a sense of patriotism that is more of a fad than a true sentiment. It all makes me sick. Then there are the endless supply of lawsuits because Americans have to blame other people for their problems. "Fast-food is making me fat, I'm going to sue McDonalds," or "There aren't enough African-Americans in this profession, let's sue."

It all makes me want to hurl.
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
I can tell by the flag. I just find it hard to have pride in my country when all of that $hit is going on. So, I carry around my España scarf and keep my memories close to me.
 

hermolt

Starting XI
Originally posted by Sevillista
I was born in Spain and moved to Minnesota, USA at a young age. I visit my family in Spain in the summer and identify most closely with my Spanish heritage. I enjoy living in America, but I do not like the people or the overall views in society. (This don't not apply to everybody, but the majority): Americans are dumb (there is a significant percentage that cannot locate the US on a map), lazy (obesity is a huge national issue), and ignorant (they hardly know what's going on in the world). My friends in Spain were surprised at my politeness (yes, I'm usually polite), my awareness of issues, and my overall intelligence (average as it may be). That startles me and then I realize that the stereotype is true for many Americans. I like living in America, but I'm not proud to be an American. Does that make sense?

It certainly does. I can see where you're coming from because (be it stereotypical or not) that's a common perception of America over here. Sad thing is, we're going that way..we're getting fatter and dumber and the country's going on a xenophobic crusade. No aggro intended mate. ;)
 

Sevillista

Starting XI
If you really want to stay on the topic of soccer, we might as well mention the MLS. Americans have long since abandoned soccer for the most part because it's not "exciting" enough. They need lots of scoring like basketball or [American] football. That kinda ticks me off too. When matches like Barcelona vs. Madrid come on, everybody in the world can see it except for the US. World Cup games were mostly limited to cable tv. I understand that it might be difficult to just start watching, but it's the "Oh, soccer is gay" reaction that's most annoying. When Americans do think of soccer, they are ignorant enough to believe that the stars of the MLS are "superstars" when in fact they probably would never make it in the European leagues.

The nation team did nicely this year, though. It wasn't good soccer, but they seemed to outrun the opposition and with a certain amount of luck managed to defeat some European teams (nearly Germany too).
 


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