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Countdown: XP moving to limited support

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Dipanjan

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Yes, heard that Windows 7 will have a XP mod, at CNET, yesterday.

But it doesnt matter.

Linux Rocks for me. Windows XP also.
 

sportgaming

Official
until the beta of windows 7 came out I was using Ubuntu

running on a fairly high spec machine- (around 18 months old) I had no problems at all with ubuntu

having said this - i'm loving windows 7 so much that I don;t think I'll be back on Ubuntu for a while - especially with the latest version ( Jaunty) not being very stable at this stage
 

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^^^If you had a high spec machine, then Ubuntu was a waste. The hardware would most likely have had no problems with Vista.

As far as Ubuntu Jaunty stability, ext4 is not the default file system for a reason. ext3, or even ext2, are better choices for stability.
 

sportgaming

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newbie original;2661906 said:
^^^If you had a high spec machine, then Ubuntu was a waste. The hardware would most likely have had no problems with Vista.

As far as Ubuntu Jaunty stability, ext4 is not the default file system for a reason. ext3, or even ext2, are better choices for stability.

vista was indeed fine, and I used it for many months, but I simply preferred Ubuntu

i wqsn;t using ext4 on my ubuntu installation - it was an upgrade from Interpid - so i stayed with the default ext 2 ( or was it 3 - i can;t remember now)
 

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sportgaming;2661929 said:
...on my ubuntu installation - it was an upgrade from Interpid...

Never the way to go. There's always something that is not right. Fresh install would have served you better. Anyways, 10.04(Long Term Support...therefore likely better stability) is only about 365 days away.
 

sportgaming

Official
can't argue with that

will definitely take a look at the next LTS when it's out - especailly as my WIndows 7 Rlease candidate will be expiring around that time
 

Keegan

Yardie
As big a fan of XP as I am, I'm really liking Windows 7 so far. Just moved from beta 7068 to RC, and I dig it. Big improvement over Vista, to me.
 

Áļéאָ

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I dont get it.. win7s basically vista with a new name and some minor minor minor changes...
Really shows how rep works for and/or against something and shapes ppls opinions. Vista are just as good and besides some driver incompatibility with hardware (mostly a problem for pros using very specific and sometimes older hardware) everything else is just good. 7 use the same driver system (that was introduced with vista). All that means... beta OS with new name = yay for no other reason than...


sorry can't come up with anything.
if M$ really wanted to take a semi-step forward they would have gone fully 64bit and help the market progress.
I guess making money here and now while pleasing the crowds(and its not like they were gonna loose that money longterm anyway, i mean.. whos goin to get their share.. apple or Linux? Duh) is more important than actually doing something that would help things advance/speed up.
But hey, who wants to deal with the average uneducated computer-wise user who cant and wont see anywhere beyond point-click-workyness. Just keep fooling em they're happy. M$ and that fruit company know how play this game pretty well already. Works, dont it? :D
 

jatin

Reserve Team
I seriously doubt going fully 64 bit will help, I frankly don't see the need for 64-bit applications when 32-bit suffice for most purposes.

Microsoft can't risk the ire of software developers, most of whom still make programs in 32-bit.
 

Keegan

Yardie
Opinions are funny things... I used Vista for a while and there were things I liked and things I didn't... I ended up going back to XP. Now I'm trying Windows 7 RC and I'm liking it a whole lot more than Vista. Bear in mind that the average PC user is happy to point-and-click and have what they expected to happen - to happen, and quickly. My decision to try W7RC was prompted by its availability to try - not by reputation. Unlike many, I like to form my own opinions. I've never tried Linux/Ubuntu etc., so I obviously cannot speak comparatively, but maybe when my resources allow (a PC to mess around with) I'll give them a look.
Cheers!
 

sportgaming

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Keegan;2663215 said:
Opinions are funny things... I used Vista for a while and there were things I liked and things I didn't... I ended up going back to XP. Now I'm trying Windows 7 RC and I'm liking it a whole lot more than Vista. Bear in mind that the average PC user is happy to point-and-click and have what they expected to happen - to happen, and quickly. My decision to try W7RC was prompted by its availability to try - not by reputation. Unlike many, I like to form my own opinions. I've never tried Linux/Ubuntu etc., so I obviously cannot speak comparatively, but maybe when my resources allow (a PC to mess around with) I'll give them a look.
Cheers!

absolutely agree with that

I was using vista for a while., but it lacked something - the few small features that have been added to 7 ( windows peek etc) have made it a whole lot more user friendly.

I was also a beta / RC tester on Vista, and windows 7 is far superior Vista for this stage of it's life - RTM version should be something special
 

Áļéאָ

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jatin;2663153 said:
I seriously doubt going fully 64 bit will help, I frankly don't see the need for 64-bit applications when 32-bit suffice for most purposes.

Microsoft can't risk the ire of software developers, most of whom still make programs in 32-bit.

You are kinda confirming my post above.
So you're also saying we should have never moved from 16 to 32 bit as well.
wth, lets just move to pre x86 16 bit computing. If only we could just somehow remove all 32-64bit era memories from users... it wouldnt make any diff to them anyway rite?
 

jatin

Reserve Team
I doubt the 16 bit -32 bit analogy can apply to this scenario. And if I remember, most previous 32 bit OSs did support 16 bit software in some form.

We need to have backward compatibility, and once the advantages of 64-bit outweigh the costs of moving to 64-bit, then the world will surely move to 64-bit.

Engineers will make stuff that technology will allow them to make, but getting the crowd along is important too...
 

yoyo913

Team Captain
I'm using Vista and my only complaint of it is program/game compatibility. Some things require a google search to fix.
 

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So, big news for those who do NOT want to stay with Windows. Google has announced plans to release their own Operating System. Here's what Google says:

"Google Chrome OS is an open source, lightweight operating system that will initially be targeted at netbooks" and "most of the user experience takes place on the web." That is, it's "Google Chrome running within a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel" with the web as the platform. It runs on x86 processors (like your standard Core 2 Duo) and ARM processors (like inside every mobile smartphone). Underneath lies security architecture that's completely redesigned to be virus-resistant and easy to update.

MORE ON Google Operating System:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html

SCREENSHOTS:
http://gizmodo.com/5310757/are-these-the-first-chrome-os-screenshots

Personally, having already switched to Ubuntu(Linux) I will only install this to play with it for a day and then remove it. Hopefully, it sucks some of the already very few Linux viruses away from other Linux distributions.
 

Áļéאָ

Fan Favourite
meh, the more the ppl that use an OS the more the virusware/etc will be. Stating that you will make an OS that is non-penetrable will only make certain groups feel challenged and eventually they will break it.
 

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I had read something about Chrome being a safe browser since it is independent of the OS, making it very hard to hack into.

Perhaps a similar concept for the Chrome operating system?
 

theo

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the only thing that stops me from switching to Chrome is that for every new tab you get a new process. aside from that it looks really okay.
 

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Hence if your CL Knockout Stage Live Scores tab fails, the browser doesn't crash and your porn tab stays running as normal. This implementation of the tabbed system is something that I really like about the Google Chrome browser.

Again, appearing in a little yellow bordered box on his desktop: "How's that Windows system working out for you now sport?" For good measure, I opened about 12 incidences of his desktop calculator and choked his 2 gigs of memory to a crawl.

By then, the kid had caught on. The sound of initiating applications was still dinging on his computer. He all but flung his laptop onto the love seat and came stomping over to the where we were seated.

"You put a virus on my computer?"

I just smiled at him.

"No pal...YOU put a virus on your computer. And it's a trojan, an OLD trojan. A Power User should know the difference. If you had any kind of protection at all, it would have warned you. You were dumb enough to click on a program given to you by a complete stranger so welcome to the world of social engineering Dilbert."
 


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