Do we all agree that..

[Shindig]

It's only down to the drastic changes it's had. In PES4, you could launch away from people and completely bypass any hint of a midfield battle. PES5 is all about the midfield battle, on the other hand.

The empty stadiums was intentional. The lack of ML weather is a bug.

I quite like the way it's went, though. They've clearly watched a lot of football for this game. They emphasise the importance of a good performance in the middle of the park. Handling the ball isn't slow, either. You've simply got to get ready to receive it. Like any player would. In PES4, it was very much an automatic process.

A lot of the new game relies on your approach to the game, too. If you had a good team on PES4, it would pretty much garantee you a victory. PES5 now has sides that can organise and frustrate you. They'll change their tactics against you to cancel you out. They'll even fling on an extra forward, if it thinks it has a chance against you.

It's nice to see competitive AI. PES4 was too inviting. It let you attack the opposition. It allowed you the luxury of getting the final third. This year, Konami want you to work for it. You find yourself relying on star players. It's nice to see that the AI will organise itself around your side. It doesn't really care if your team has Zidane, Ronaldinho, et al. Paper teams win paper cups. This is a much more level playing field.

 

[Hans]

You guys who are having trouble with fouls,controlling, etc should really look into the tutorial section.

Pressing R1+X will most likely earn you guys foul, to steal a ball just simply press X without R1 for a clean tackle, use R1 only to catch up with your opponent, once you wanna go for a tackle or steal let go R1 and use X, it's usually a clean tackle.

The auto side step is one of the first thing that really gettin into my nerve for the first time, so if you wanna make a quick touch and change direction when you receive the ball, press R1 and the direction you wanna go. Use R1+D-pad to quickly change direction while running.

Don't think too much, react first, it's better to quickly pass the ball to a near open teammate than trying to get through a defender.

Hope that helps, I still need to practice a lot more.

 

[MasterM]

collision detection in this game is also bad. Ive seen so many times where the balls go trough my players body. Or players that go through eah other.
Pes5 has far too many bugs.

 

[rifai]

I m sick and tired of the commentory .its so boring..i hope we get new commentators in PES 6 .

 

[Bummy_JaB]

I really dont see the CPU cheat in the game. Only for away matches against crappy teams do i struggle. I have no problems beating good teams, but for some reason I struggle to beat easy teams in the League. Yea mad wierd man.

 

[techtrance11]

The stupid foul system ruined it for me, when two opposing players are running after the ball and there's minimal contact, it's always a freekick in favour of the CPU, makes me wonder why it's not to my advantage? Chances are 1 in 100 probably..
I lost a match 1-0 because of a last minute penalty. Why did it happen? Because there was this very minimal contact between my defender and the opposition's forward in the penalty area.
Besides, it's not fun having play stopping every 8 seconds for a stupid foul that actually wasn't.

sums up most of my games. thing i hate most is when 2 players are chasing the ball and because your players are faster your in front but yet somehow "you fouled the man running behind you in order 2 beat him to it".

 

[Nuno]

I love PES5 as I have loved every PES/WE. But PES5 does have a few things that tick me off from time to time. The advantage rule is totally incosistent. It works in midfield, but for some reason it never gives me the advantage when my striker is clean through on goal!!! I had Reyes alone with the GK only for the ref to stop the game cause Ronaldo was fouled during his pass. Another thing that really bugs me is the incosistency of cards. The last defender is supposed to see red if he fouls a player who's through on goal. Yet all I get is a FK. Super!

Anyway the rest of the gameplay is great. I initially had a problem with headers, but after I started using R2 to control the recieving player, I've scored alot more headers. The goals are never the same and some are amazing. Plus I like the fact that it really forces you to build up your attacks intelligently. You really need the radar to help you plot you attack or counter attack.

 

[Benjamk]

The stupid foul system ruined it for me, when two opposing players are running after the ball and there's minimal contact, it's always a freekick in favour of the CPU, makes me wonder why it's not to my advantage? Chances are 1 in 100 probably..
I lost a match 1-0 because of a last minute penalty. Why did it happen? Because there was this very minimal contact between my defender and the opposition's forward in the penalty area.
Besides, it's not fun having play stopping every 8 seconds for a stupid foul that actually wasn't.

Well if that doesent sound like real football to me then i dont know what is!

Its annoying because its realistic, and i'd prefer realism to easy wins any day

 

[Phoenix]

A lot of these points just come across as sour grapes to me. The game is logically going to be different from a previous version and for my money this is getting closer and closer to the real feeling of football.

I have my issues with the game, none of this 'cheating' stuff though. Mainly just smaller things. For instance, you could win a game 6-0, one player scoring 4 goals and his rating might be 6. I myself have never seen higher than 8.5 in PES5 (I once saw 9 in PES4 though).

The lack of weather in the ML is annoying too however it is the groupings for the WEFA championships that irritate me. I always get drawn with one or two teams from my country. (Playing as Milan and I have had Juve in my group for the past 3 seasons).

For me it's just the little things, none of the on pitch gameplay. I have played this game religiously since the day it came out and I will until the day the next PES comes into my hands.