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[GIGGIRIVA]

That would be an amazing group of forwards to make up an Italian all-time squad! And I suppose we could also squeeze that little maestro Gigi Riva in as well. Giuseppe Meazza & Paolo Rossi mustn't be too far behind either.

Italy of all times would be difficult to do. starting from the goalkeeper, would there be a Zoff or Buffon dilemma? Baresi or Scirea in defense? It would not be possible to create an objective team. I wouldn't even know who to put...

 

[Lindbloom]

Italy of all times would be difficult to do. starting from the goalkeeper, would there be a Zoff or Buffon dilemma? Baresi or Scirea in defense? It would not be possible to create an objective team. I wouldn't even know who to put...

Coincidentally I've been thinking about it a little bit over the past week (along with other all time XIs).

Here is an attempt from an Australian that only started watching Serie A as a kid in the 90s (I'm sure many others on this forum could do much better).

4-2-2-2

GK - Buffon/Zoff
RB - Bergomi/Gentile
CB - Cannavaro/Scirea
CB - Baresi
LB - Maldini/Facchetti
CM - Pirlo
CM - Rivera
AM - Meazza/V Mazzola
AM - R Baggio
ST - S Mazzola
ST - Totti/del Piero

Honestly the hardest positions are the defenders & forwards. So much talent in both areas.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Coincidentally I've been thinking about it a little bit over the past week (along with other all time XIs).

Here is an attempt from an Australian that only started watching Serie A as a kid in the 90s (I'm sure many others on this forum could do much better).

4-2-2-2

GK - Buffon/Zoff
RB - Bergomi/Gentile
CB - Cannavaro/Scirea
CB - Baresi
LB - Maldini/Facchetti
CM - Pirlo
CM - Rivera
AM - Meazza/V Mazzola
AM - R Baggio
ST - S Mazzola
ST - Totti/del Piero

Honestly the hardest positions are the defenders & forwards. So much talent in both areas.

Without a shadow of a doubt it is balanced. Tardelli and Antognoni can also be considered in midfield even if Luis Monti is not strictly Italian. A step below Gattuso, Giannini, De Rossi, Albertini and perhaps also Verratti, Attilio Ferraris and Carlo Parola

In defense we had Renzo De Vecchi. His nickname was "the son of God". A player often forgotten but from what I have read a great player of the 10s and 20s. Others to mention are Caligaris, Rosetta, Burgnich, Nesta. Honorable mention for Vierchowod which I adored.

In addition to the two monsters Zoff and Buffon, Albertosi, Zenga, Combi, Peruzzi, Toldo could also be considered in goal.

In Attack Riva would be the starter for me but others who deserve a place in a selection for a world championship would be Paolo Rossi, Piola, Vieri, Inzaghi, Altobelli, Luigi Cevenini, Giovanni Ferrari

I'm sure I'm forgetting others... but it's 3 in the morning and sleep clouds my memory

I want to make a separate discussion for the Grande Torino players. I have always had the certainty that if the Superga tragedy had not occurred, Italy would have won the 1950 World Cup. If this had happened, many dynamics and many names would have entered the Olympus of the national team too. Not just Mazzola. But also Menti, Maroso, Castigliano and Loik. Stratospheric team that offered 9 or 10 players out of 11 to the national team.

 

[Lindbloom]

Without a shadow of a doubt it is balanced. Tardelli and Antognoni can also be considered in midfield even if Luis Monti is not strictly Italian. A step below Gattuso, Giannini, De Rossi, Albertini and perhaps also Verratti, Attilio Ferraris and Carlo Parola

In defense we had Renzo De Vecchi. His nickname was "the son of God". A player often forgotten but from what I have read a great player of the 10s and 20s. Others to mention are Caligaris, Rosetta, Burgnich, Nesta. Honorable mention for Vierchowod which I adored.

In addition to the two monsters Zoff and Buffon, Albertosi, Zenga, Combi, Peruzzi, Toldo could also be considered in goal.

In Attack Riva would be the starter for me but others who deserve a place in a selection for a world championship would be Paolo Rossi, Piola, Vieri, Inzaghi, Altobelli, Luigi Cevenini, Giovanni Ferrari

I'm sure I'm forgetting others... but it's 3 in the morning and sleep clouds my memory

I want to make a separate discussion for the Grande Torino players. I have always had the certainty that if the Superga tragedy had not occurred, Italy would have won the 1950 World Cup. If this had happened, many dynamics and many names would have entered the Olympus of the national team too. Not just Mazzola. But also Menti, Maroso, Castigliano and Loik. Stratospheric team that offered 9 or 10 players out of 11 to the national team.

Yeah, I would consider Monti (and Orsi) to be selected for Argentinia as they were born over there & played for Argentina first, though I wouldn't argue with anyone if they selected them in an Italian squad. Tardelli, Antognoni & Albertini are also great choices for midfield roles. Tardelli might be the next best defensive midfielder after Monti.

And yes, I have also read great things about de Vecchi (I think he's rated in the mid-90s in CP!). Hard to tell how he would fare considering his career was mostly before the offside rule change in the mid-1920's & defensive strategy was so much different in those days, but there is no doubt he was the best of his era.

So many choices for GK, the Italians have always been spoiled in that department. Buffon & Zoff are the two standout choices, Zenga and/or Combi might just slot in behind them, as much as I love Peruzzi & Toldo.

I also love reading about the Torino side of the 1940's. I had never thought about how Italy would have performed in 1950 if the tragedy did not happen but I suppose you are right in that they would have been the favorites to win, at the very least, even if South American conditions were much tougher to overcome back then. Let's also not forget Giampiero Boniperti who would have been magic to watch alongside Mazzola.

You've done well to write so much about Italian football history in English at 3am! Your passion is immense!

 

[pffrench]

Hm strange
Which teams and which decade?

The 1950s and 1960s databases crash for me when I select kickoff...does anybody else have this problem? All the other databases work fine. Thanks in advance for your reply

EDIT:
When I apply the fix by importing the formations table using database master 14, the game no longer crashes but the players are all jumbled together on the pitch and do not play in a normal formation. The formation screen at the match introduction only shows the goalkeeper. At the start of the match the players are grouped together at the same spot and then gradually run onto the pitch and just scatter themselves out. see pictures

 

[andersondiasjr]

Hm strange
Which teams and which decade?

None. The game crashes right in the first screen , the beaten ball screen. I’ve tried all possible fixes ( db formation, profile file ) , and nothing. Very strange.

 

[M8no2001]

None. The game crashes right in the first screen , the beaten ball screen. I’ve tried all possible fixes ( db formation, profile file ) , and nothing. Very strange.

Did you try the solution of valambrosio

 

[andersondiasjr]

Did you try the solution of valambrosio

Yes. I already deleted my previous Fifa 14 profile , and the game still crashing

 

[andersondiasjr]

Did you try the solution of valambrosio

And I noticed that some things are different, for example the RAR files ( 1900, 1910, 1980 , all of them db) are now outside the GAME folder, another file (desktop.ini) is also outside the GAME folder too. I don't know if this is relevant, just conjecturing here and trying figure out.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

The 1950s and 1960s databases crash for me when I select kickoff...does anybody else have this problem? All the other databases work fine. Thanks in advance for your reply

EDIT:
When I apply the fix by importing the formations table using database master 14, the game no longer crashes but the players are all jumbled together on the pitch and do not play in a normal formation. The formation screen at the match introduction only shows the goalkeeper. At the start of the match the players are grouped together at the same spot and then gradually run onto the pitch and just scatter themselves out. see pictures

In 10 years I have never seen anything like this. Try redownloading everything. Something probably got corrupted while you were downloading. It happens with RARs larger than 1 Gb.

I extracted everything from the RAR from the last release and inserted the formation table. Everything works fine.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

And I noticed that some things are different, for example the RAR files ( 1900, 1910, 1980 , all of them db) are now outside the GAME folder, another file (desktop.ini) is also outside the GAME folder too. I don't know if this is relevant, just conjecturing here and trying figure out.

I checked to be sure. The RAR of the ones indicated by you have the correct paths. You are making some mistake.

 

[pffrench]

In 10 years I have never seen anything like this. Try redownloading everything. Something probably got corrupted while you were downloading. It happens with RARs larger than 1 Gb.

I extracted everything from the RAR from the last release and inserted the formation table. Everything works fine.

Hi Gigi, thanks for your response. I did as you suggested and re-downloaded everything but I have the same problem with the 1950s and 1960s database. I then exported the formations table from the 1940s database and imported it into the 1950s database just to see what happens if I used a different formations table from the one you sent as the fix. When I did this I was able to see the formation as shown in your picture but then most of the teams crash the game before kickoff. I then used the formation that you sent as the fix and the teams no longer crash the game but the formations during the match is still messed up...I only see the goalkeeper and players are jumbled etc. Can you send me your 1950s and 1960s database please so I can test if it works for me? I am not sure what else to do. Thanks

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Hi Gigi, thanks for your response. I did as you suggested and re-downloaded everything but I have the same problem with the 1950s and 1960s database. I then exported the formations table from the 1940s database and imported it into the 1950s database just to see what happens if I used a different formations table from the one you sent as the fix. When I did this I was able to see the formation as shown in your picture but then most of the teams crash the game before kickoff. I then used the formation that you sent as the fix and the teams no longer crash the game but the formations during the match is still messed up...I only see the goalkeeper and players are jumbled etc. Can you send me your 1950s and 1960s database please so I can test if it works for me? I am not sure what else to do. Thanks

No... Do not use the formation table from another decade. It has other content, other teams. It will crash for sure. I don't need to pass you the databases, they are the same. I used the same database that I put in the patch RAR.

 

[pffrench]

No... Do not use the formation table from another decade. It has other content, other teams. It will crash for sure. I don't need to pass you the databases, they are the same. I used the same database that I put in the patch RAR.

Nothing seems to be resolving this issue for me... I would love to hear if anyone else has or had a similar issue and how it was resolved. Crashing is gone but the game formation is totally messed up. I am still enjoying the patch but the 1950s and 1960s are some of my favourite teams that I would like to play with. Hungary 1954 etc. Thanks for your help though Gigi, I appreciate it.

 

[ovide]

Nothing seems to be resolving this issue for me... I would love to hear if anyone else has or had a similar issue and how it was resolved. Crashing is gone but the game formation is totally messed up. I am still enjoying the patch but the 1950s and 1960s are some of my favourite teams that I would like to play with. Hungary 1954 etc. Thanks for your help though Gigi, I appreciate it.

Im working on a project
I remember some Time ir crash after Splash, the Solution was import the default formations

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Nothing seems to be resolving this issue for me... I would love to hear if anyone else has or had a similar issue and how it was resolved. Crashing is gone but the game formation is totally messed up. I am still enjoying the patch but the 1950s and 1960s are some of my favourite teams that I would like to play with. Hungary 1954 etc. Thanks for your help though Gigi, I appreciate it.

The problem is that crashes are random from PC to PC. It is not clear what could have caused them. This release was tested on a medium-high range PC and a low-end laptop. No crashes. Unfortunately I can't know who it might happen to. I just know that inserting that table fixes everything and doing the tests I had no problems with or without the table.

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

Im working on a project
I remember some Time ir crash after Splash, the Solution was import the default formations

The problem is that there is nothing here by default anymore. If you set the original FIFA 14 table it crashes or in any case loads completely wrong formations. The formation table was practically rebuilt about 6-7 years ago for the needs of the patch

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

The problem is that I can't be on your PCs. If something works for me I can't know how and where the problem is because I don't have the problem. I thought it could also be that on some PCs you struggle to manage the almost 80 GB of additional files. But I also can't know. It could be anything...

 

[GIGGIRIVA]

And there is another problem. I wrote three consecutive posts starting with "the problem". Houston, we have a problem. XD

 

[pffrench]

The problem is that crashes are random from PC to PC. It is not clear what could have caused them. This release was tested on a medium-high range PC and a low-end laptop. No crashes. Unfortunately I can't know who it might happen to. I just know that inserting that table fixes everything and doing the tests I had no problems with or without the table.

Thanks man. I fully understand.