F.C. BARCELONA Thread [Season 2006/2007]

[Dream Team]

Also, to be fair to the coach, it would take some time for the new player to gain his confidence after the championship pairing did so well the year before.

"Tutu" has had injury issues as well, which have affected his continuity and his chances to gain the trust of the "Mister".

Exactly. At Barça the defenders play more advanced and it requires more effort. All the CB's who come from Italy have this problem. Thuram isn't exactly young and he's having some fitness troubles.

I would never ever sit Márquez in good form. And I, for one, am not mexican..

 

[CarlosDanger]

Exactly. At Barça the defenders play more advanced and it requires more effort. All the CB's who come from Italy have this problem. Thuram isn't exactly young and he's having some fitness troubles.

I would never ever sit Márquez in good form. And I, for one, am not mexican..

As you can tell by my sig, I am a huge Marquez fan (although I'm not Mexican either, just lived there for 7 years. My daughter is Mexican by birth)

That said, I would be the first to criticize him when he plays poorly and this season he has not been as good as in the past. I really like him as the "pivote" in front of the defence. He has great passing and vision, and if he makes an error, which he sometimes does due to perhaps taking a few too many risks, then he has backup behind him. On the NT he gets the freedom to move forward and sometimes is the best attacker on the NT (amazing that it's a defender!!! .... or maybe sad)

Anyway, I think we need to buy 1 or 2 CB this off season and use Marquez full-time in the midfield backed up by Edmilson or (hopefully not) Motta. Milito or Gonzalo would be good. (or both) I would like 1 or 2 CB and Dani Alves.

Anyway, there's my 2 cents about Rafa.

 

[big al]

yes i totally agree we need at least 1 new CB, cause well thuram isnt getting any younger, my wishes go for terry or cris form lyon , plus iam not saying marquez sucks no way, he is just having a bad season imo, he just needs to concentrate more, he has lost some of that timing he had in the past too, nonetheless i still prefer him as our CB with puyol, hope we get alves too , he is so freaking amazing , but ill bet ******* mandriles are going to go for him too; plus i know some would disagree specially vedran LOL , but i think we need a new forward,cause iam pretty sure saviola isnt going to be with barca next season, we need someone that fits etoo standarts or can play along with him, i mean we cant only rely on etoo all the time, we have learn that the hard way this season, i know tactics are diferent with rijkaard , but in the past we had for example stoichkov and romario playing together, why cant we have 2 good forwards now?

 

[Best's_cadaver]

How about: Great win for L'pool? and stop blaming Barcas lack of efort. Rafa outcoached Frank big time on this one.

 

[Socrates]

yes i totally agree we need at least 1 new CB, cause well thuram isnt getting any younger, my wishes go for terry or cris form lyon , plus iam not saying marquez sucks no way, he is just having a bad season imo, he just needs to concentrate more, he has lost some of that timing he had in the past too, nonetheless i still prefer him as our CB with puyol, hope we get alves too , he is so freaking amazing , but ill bet ******* mandriles are going to go for him too; plus i know some would disagree specially vedran LOL , but i think we need a new forward,cause iam pretty sure saviola isnt going to be with barca next season, we need someone that fits etoo standarts or can play along with him, i mean we cant only rely on etoo all the time, we have learn that the hard way this season, i know tactics are diferent with rijkaard , but in the past we had for example stoichkov and romario playing together, why cant we have 2 good forwards now?

Terry...please don't tell me you mean John Terry? I really hope we don't go for Daniel Alves, as good as he is we have Diogo. All we need to work on with him is how to box but that can be learned but seriously Diogo has been very good with Zaragoza this season I hope we start him for next season with Torres as his backup. The reason you can't have 2 forwards is because FR is limited to his 4-3-3 even when players are injured he won't change it to suite the players he has because well he is not that great a tactical manager imo. It seems like he does not watch the other team's very much and comes unprepared or do I only notice this? I think that if you played with 2 forwards Gudjohnsen would also look better because upfront by himself he looks out of place.

Anyone else see the front page of AS? Holy ****, Ronaldinho is becoming the new Ronaldo.

For those too lazy to go there

 

[andy]

How about: Great win for L'pool? and stop blaming Barcas lack of efort. Rafa outcoached Frank big time on this one.

There were some very serious mistakes that had nothing to do with one coach outcoaching another. Valdez' mistake was very foolish, and it took a big hit on the morale of his team-members. Márquez' mistake was very dumb too, he could have easily headed the ball out to the corner.

 

[big al]

Terry...please don't tell me you mean John Terry? I really hope we don't go for Daniel Alves,

yes i mean john terry , i always been a fan of him , he is a real leader and has great timing like puyol, but beeing realistic i dont think chelsea would let him go, cris would a be a more realistic option, i really like him too, great timing, excellent in the air, very phisical player, great passer of the ball too he doesnt panic.

The reason you can't have 2 forwards is because FR is limited to his 4-3-3 even when players are injured he won't change it to suite the players he has because well he is not that great a tactical manager imo. It seems like he does not watch the other team's very much and comes unprepared or do I only notice this? I think that if you played with 2 forwards Gudjohnsen would also look better because upfront by himself he looks out of place.

its not so much rijkaard doesnt come prepare, cause his system has brought results in the past, its more that without etoo and messi and dinho's ups and downs this season our system kinda collapsed and it doesnt work like it used too, deco has also been inconsistent this season who's another important part of that system; if it wasnt for inesta our midfiled would be screwed more than it is this season cause for me it seems our players are worn out, if you seen some of the barcas games this season you would notice the speed isnt their anymore,
barca its like a puzzle, this season there were alot of missing pieces, plus another thing that hasnt help its rijkaards rotation system this season, in which i remember he didnt do in the past ,hell i dont remember when was the last time we play 2 games in a row with the same starting lineup , theirs always somebody missing, injurys or rijkaards rotations, so in resume i whish rijkaard werent so stubourn and jelous of his system and try diferents patterns tacticly speaking when we have those important pieces missing.

Anyone else see the front page of AS? Holy ****, Ronaldinho is becoming the new Ronaldo.

For those too lazy to go there

lol , i was going to put that pic too but you beat to the punch, guess dinho and ronaldo have the same chef lol

 

[panxoman]

Anyone else see the front page of AS? Holy ****, Ronaldinho is becoming the new Ronaldo.

For those too lazy to go there

It seems it's true that he doesn't do too much trainig and it's not just him...

The team has an important lack of concentration. You can't do such big mistakes against teams like Valencia or liverpool and expect to win.

Anyway I think the bisggest problem is that Barça doesn't have effective attacking power right now, so it doesn't intimidate.

Against defensive team, the team just controls the ball going from one side to another, like handball team, but without any good striker who can score goals. Any team with a good defensive structure knows that Barça will have many problems to score, and on the other hand, they will have a few good chances. If they score those chances, the match is in their pocket.

Both Saviola and Guddy ara not the same level as Larsson and while Etoo is out (he's was best Barça player this season by far) the team is just too soft and predictable.

 

[Socrates]

yes i mean john terry , i always been a fan of him , he is a real leader and has great timing like puyol, but beeing realistic i dont think chelsea would let him go, cris would a be a more realistic option, i really like him too, great timing, excellent in the air, very phisical player, great passer of the ball too he doesnt panic.

its not so much rijkaard doesnt come prepare, cause his system has brought results in the past, its more that without etoo and messi and dinho's ups and downs this season our system kinda collapsed and it doesnt work like it used too, deco has also been inconsistent this season who's another important part of that system; if it wasnt for inesta our midfiled would be screwed more than it is this season cause for me it seems our players are worn out, if you seen some of the barcas games this season you would notice the speed isnt their anymore,
barca its like a puzzle, this season there were alot of missing pieces, plus another thing that hasnt help its rijkaards rotation system this season, in which i remember he didnt do in the past ,hell i dont remember when was the last time we play 2 games in a row with the same starting lineup , theirs always somebody missing, injurys or rijkaards rotations, so in resume i whish rijkaard werent so stubourn and jelous of his system and try diferents patterns tacticly speaking when we have those important pieces missing.

lol , i was going to put that pic too but you beat to the punch, guess dinho and ronaldo have the same chef lol

I think JT would never leave Chelsea unless he was really pissed because I just can't see that happening. Not to mention the amount of money that will cost.

I disagree somewhat, sure injuries have hurt him ( as they do to all managers ) but he is still imo not that great tacticaly speaking. Kind of like Del Bosque. Last season he had Ten Cate who had a footballing brain and that would help FR but this season he does not have him anymore. I really don't think he focous on games or wathces his oppoentens before the geams either, he just uses the same predictable 4-3-3 and hopes the players pull through.

 

[Dream Team]

Last season wasn't different, Barça played 4-3-3 every single game. Ten Cate motivated the players though, we're missing that sometimes.

 

[Socrates]

Last season wasn't different, Barça played 4-3-3 every single game. Ten Cate motivated the players though, we're missing that sometimes.

Last season was different because you had Ten Cate helping FR in terms of tacticul moves and also he understud the game better than FR does. Still your a very good team but imo FR is not that great a tactical coach ala Del Bosque.

 

[Dream Team]

BS. Barça last year had two moves. Iniesta and Larsson in the second half. It was always that.

Ten Cate could have used that knowledge and understanding of the game when Kovenham kicked Ajax out of the CL.


It's impossible not to notice the absences of Eto'o and Messi. Besides some players are not at the same level as last year. Our defence is struggling because Edmilson and Motta have been horrible this season. Deco has had more bad games than good games. Xavi is not the same after the injury although he's getting there. Ronaldinho is inconsistent. Though Barça would not lead la Liga without his free kicks and the few minutes of inspiration that he has even when he's in low form.

The tactic is not the problem. Injuries, tiredness, lack of hunger in some moments,.. that's what's happening.

 

[Socrates]

BS. Barça last year had two moves. Iniesta and Larsson in the second half. It was always that.

Ten Cate could have used that knowledge and understanding of the game when Kovenham kicked Ajax out of the CL.


It's impossible not to notice the absences of Eto'o and Messi. Besides some players are not at the same level as last year. Our defence is struggling because Edmilson and Motta have been horrible this season. Deco has had more bad games than good games. Xavi is not the same after the injury although he's getting there. Ronaldinho is inconsistent. Though Barça would not lead la Liga without his free kicks and the few minutes of inspiration that he has even when he's in low form.

The tactic is not the problem. Injuries, tiredness, lack of hunger in some moments,.. that's what's happening.

While that is true for the most part, imo the 4-3-3 is getting outplayed. Larsson suits the 1 striker role a lot more than Guddy ( who FR loves for some reason ) hell even Saviola fits it more. Anyway enough of that discussion when is Eto'o supposed to come back for an actual match?

 

[Dream Team]

Hopefully this week. I hope he can make it for the second leg against Liverpool. The team need him. If Eto'o doesn't play this week, then something's wrong.

 

[MaestroZidane]

Eto'o was named in the teamsheet for tomorrows match. So maybe tomorrow he plays

 

[jani]

apparently you guys have signed Dida on a free

 

[Dream Team]

apparently you guys have signed Dida on a free

It's a rumour. I don't think it's true. We'll see in the summer. I guess he'd come to be a starter but Rijkaard trusts Valdés and he's been one of the best players this season.

 

[big al]

i really hope its not true , my god!, we can do better than dida

 

[CarlosDanger]

So we could have two mistake-prone keepers.

I mean, both are good keepers who have won some serious silverware, but both are prone to mental lapses.

 

[jani]

No, Dida was only bad last season.

This season he's been injured a bit but when he played he was always solid.