it's not speculation at all, its just that this two teams where totally below what they used to be, just seriously look at the quality of the players Barca has, all the while l'OL was lost, and i'm certain its the manager which is not right for them, last season les gones choked Real Madrid while Barca just doesn't reach the levels of the CL winning team which was beutiful to watch (even though they have better players now i think).
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F.C. BARCELONA Thread [Season 2007/08]
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Num Lock;2404209 said:
i say is meerly speculation cause on one hand you have the barca from 2 years ago and a lyon from the last 4, 5 years, we will never know how that match would end cause those teams are long gone.... now lyon has a weaker side but remember they faced a barcelona comming from a very unconvinving start of a season..... btw that lyon you talk about, they had some impresive rounds of the CL but at the end they always choked in the second round.... i dont know i just dont see that lyon trashing our golden age barca...
big al;2404214 said:
its not that they are a weaker side, they have the same core group plus a few youngsters and new guys the manager is just too negative when l'OL is an attacking team, and i don't see it as choking, more like having huge meltdowns, and i said last years teams, i mentioned the cl winning Barca because i seriously think that this season you have better players, maybe you guys didn't know but i knew Yaya was an awesome holding mid it was the kind of player barca needed since Davids, you have Titi but he looks so out of place, Ronnie what can i say remember that we sold him to Barca after all
, Messi was huge in this game and i think that he was the reason you got the points, Abidal is a workhorse compared to what you had last season.i love watching teams that play the beautiful game the way its meant to be played, Lyon (which is a team i dislike, not as much as l'OM though) played badly that means if they drop the CL they will prolly win the L1 faster.... so i want them to do good on the CL so we and the rest have a chance. now Barca as i said have the players but its not clicking as it should.
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Num Lock;2404215 said:its not that they are a weaker side, they have the same core group plus a few youngsters and new guys the manager is just too negative when l'OL is an attacking team, and i don't see it as choking, more like having huge meltdowns, and i said last years teams, i mentioned the cl winning Barca because i seriously think that this season you have better players, maybe you guys didn't know but i knew Yaya was an awesome holding mid it was the kind of player barca needed since Davids, you have Titi but he looks so out of place, Ronnie what can i say remember that we sold him to Barca after all
i love watching teams that play the beautiful game the way its meant to be played, Lyon (which is a team i dislike, not as much as l'OM though) played badly that means if they drop the CL they will prolly win the L1 faster.... so i want them to do good on the CL so we and the rest have a chance. now Barca as i said have the players but its not clicking as it should.
You make good points all around. I think Barca hasn't found their rythm yet.
About Toure... I told several friends whe he was about to sign and I still believe this. In 3 or 4 years we will look back on the signings of this summer and Toure will be widely considered the best one, despite Henry being great and Milito being a rock defensively.
Toure is 100% class.
Rijkaard Tells Ronaldinho: You Must Improve
Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard insists that Ronaldinho must return to form soon, but has no doubt that the Brazilian is more than capable of reaching his full potential once more...
zoom - galleria Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard has urged Ronaldinho to show a 'reaction' to his recent poor form, and return to that which he is capable of.
However, Rijkaard has gone to great lengths to play down the Brazilian's recent difficulties. The manager insists that Ronaldinho can recover from his recent slump in form and that, "all players must suffer" now and again.
"There is no special case here. We're all working together and all the players are important," continued the Dutch coach.
"I forsee Ronaldinho returning to how he's been in recent years. I see that he can recover, I believe this.
"It's a case of action-reaction, and sometimes it's necessary to suffer. And when he shows his reaction, he's a phenomenal player.
"He needs to show his quality; with rage, aggressiveness or affection, he must react. But there is no doubting his quality; one can never avoid that."
Ronaldinho has only scored from set pieces so far this season in La Liga, and was not one of the leading lights during his side's 3-0 win over Lyon midweek, but Rijkaard insists that he is retaining his faith in the ex-PSG man.
"He's very, very important to the squad," said Rijkaard. "He's one of the strongest players in the world."
Rijkaard thus follows Lionel Messi in declaring his admiration for the Brazilian international forward.
Thierry Henry, another Barca talent, recently hit the headlines after remaining with the French squad to face Scotland in the Euro 2008 qualifiers despite being suspended.
Rijkaard claims that this was not a breach of club discipline and, indeed, he had given the ex-Arsenal man permission to do so.
He remarked, "He's the captain [of the French team] even though he was suspended, so when he asked if he could remain and train, I said to him that it was fine if he did so."
Finally, the manager looked ahead to the weekend crunch clash with Sevilla at Camp Nou.
"This match is very, very important for us and I want us to line up with that mentality," he said.
"[Sevilla] is a team that all works together, defends hard and presses remarkably forcefully when it has the ball. We need to play with humility and in order to win we must match their effort."
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=421523
Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard insists that Ronaldinho must return to form soon, but has no doubt that the Brazilian is more than capable of reaching his full potential once more...
zoom - galleria Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard has urged Ronaldinho to show a 'reaction' to his recent poor form, and return to that which he is capable of.
However, Rijkaard has gone to great lengths to play down the Brazilian's recent difficulties. The manager insists that Ronaldinho can recover from his recent slump in form and that, "all players must suffer" now and again.
"There is no special case here. We're all working together and all the players are important," continued the Dutch coach.
"I forsee Ronaldinho returning to how he's been in recent years. I see that he can recover, I believe this.
"It's a case of action-reaction, and sometimes it's necessary to suffer. And when he shows his reaction, he's a phenomenal player.
"He needs to show his quality; with rage, aggressiveness or affection, he must react. But there is no doubting his quality; one can never avoid that."
Ronaldinho has only scored from set pieces so far this season in La Liga, and was not one of the leading lights during his side's 3-0 win over Lyon midweek, but Rijkaard insists that he is retaining his faith in the ex-PSG man.
"He's very, very important to the squad," said Rijkaard. "He's one of the strongest players in the world."
Rijkaard thus follows Lionel Messi in declaring his admiration for the Brazilian international forward.
Thierry Henry, another Barca talent, recently hit the headlines after remaining with the French squad to face Scotland in the Euro 2008 qualifiers despite being suspended.
Rijkaard claims that this was not a breach of club discipline and, indeed, he had given the ex-Arsenal man permission to do so.
He remarked, "He's the captain [of the French team] even though he was suspended, so when he asked if he could remain and train, I said to him that it was fine if he did so."
Finally, the manager looked ahead to the weekend crunch clash with Sevilla at Camp Nou.
"This match is very, very important for us and I want us to line up with that mentality," he said.
"[Sevilla] is a team that all works together, defends hard and presses remarkably forcefully when it has the ball. We need to play with humility and in order to win we must match their effort."
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=421523
jimorrizon
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about time....
jimorrizon
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that's what they say but there is a rumor that Dinho broke code after Osasuna match and so he was punished but who knows....
I haven't visited the forum for a long time. hello everybody
I'm just looking at the stadium project. I don't really like it. I hope to see many more pictures about how is it going to be and maybe I'll chane my mind, but right now, I quite deceived.
I expected something different, not a multicolour Allianz Arena copy.
I'm just looking at the stadium project. I don't really like it. I hope to see many more pictures about how is it going to be and maybe I'll chane my mind, but right now, I quite deceived.
I expected something different, not a multicolour Allianz Arena copy.
Jaboldinho
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Hey, welcome back. I saw the name of the poster, had no idea who it was, none at all. Then I saw your avatar. 
jimorrizon
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Barca 2
Sevilla 1
G: messi 2x
Sevilla 1
G: messi 2x
Yossarian;2405215 said:
not just that when he received the ball it seems he got help with his hand, i also want to se that replay again to be sure....
anyways.... humongous win for us, you guys dont know how much we needed to win... abidal, marquez, toure and of course messi once again our best players, in the first half after the 20th minute sevilla close the spaces real hard.... but they didnt do nothing either cause our midfield was impecable once again, we totally shut down sevilla upfront.... btw wtf was poulsen thinking i mean, i seen thousands of grabbings but this one takes the cake... lol
VISCA BARCA!!!!!
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