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Ealixo

Youth Team
I reported you my friend, and I'm not sorry (I will explain), nor hiding. As you perhaps know my thread was deleted about three years ago for using Linkvertise links, and then I left the forum and for three years I was watching you and many other facemakers using that site and other link shorteners without any consequences, even though you should've all been banned alongside me three years ago if the same rules were applied to everybody, but they were not and I was the only one sanctioned. Back then I was reported by anonymous users, cowards if you ask me, and you at least know who reported you and I think that is fair, I'm ready for any sort of backlash I will recieve for saying this publicly.

Now, I did not report you to start a personal beef with you or any other facemaker (I will probably report others who uses publishing techniques forbidden by the forum as soon as I have time to go around and check on others), nor I did it to seek personal revenge for what happened to me. I always supported your work and work of every modder who invested their time and energy into FIFA 14, or any other FIFA game for that matter, because I know we all just wanted to make games better for people to play. I downloaded your faces and respected your work, and I absolutely understand that we facemakers want to gain a bit of compensation for the time we invest to make mods - and there I am on your side. But same rules must be applied to everybody, and the rules say that paid links here are forbidden.

Now, my final goal in all this, is that we, as a community, as a union of facemakers if you wish to call it that, rebel in a way against the pointless rule that forbids paid links, and to force a change of that rule. I think paid links should absolutely be allowed here. They are allowed on Facebook and other platforms, I really don't see why they wouldn't be allowed here. Paid links cost the users of this forum NOTHING, except a bit of their time and few extra clicks (to all those who were saying that paid links install malware - you're on the internet, do you really think any of your devices is not already full of harmless malware, such as add trackers?? Lets be serious here). And as you said, if people are not ready to spend a minute to download your face, that took you hours to make, then they don't deserve your hustle and they don't deserve that face. When the best facemakers are gone from this forum because their work and time are not being respected, and they are being banned for posting paid links, only then will the administration of this forum realize what a terrible decision they are making, killing these games, in this case our beloved FIFA 14, by themselves, by their own decisions.

If we all gather and ask for rule change, ask for paid links to be allowed, only then we have a chance to set the same rules for everyone and be (in a very humble way btw because we don't make thousands of dollars from paid links as many people think) compensated for out time and effort. That is why I reported you and that is why I will report every facemaker I see use paid links. I want to finally trigger a wider reaction. When I was banned no facemaker stood by my side, no facemaker backed me up. I hope now with your thread in danger I can provoke a group reaction. Only if we react all together we can actually bring a much needed change and get the right to use paid links on Soccergaming forum. I even propose we all have a big poll, in which we, members, would all vote for/against paid links on Soccergaming. We want to live in a democracy, lets live in a democracy then.

Bless you all, and once again, Jeff my friend, sorry not sorry. I think this was a necessary action.
My friend, what you did was wrong, you attacked the wrong person, he is not to blame for the rules.

You harm the entire community just as we were harmed when you were banned...
 

Ealixo

Youth Team
I like sincere people, I will always respect that, if you did it, it's fine, I understand it, because it is not fair that paid links or paid link generators are not allowed because with that we do not take money from either the administrators or the people. Let them click, we won't become millionaires either, I only used it so that my effort is valued for the time invested with a few cents but I will also respect the forum since without it it would not be known by many, in fact, the FIFA game without the forum would be lost now Thank you for letting me know, I always support your work, never criticize yours or other face creators or mods in general. Finally, it was great to share the knowledge with the people here but there will be no more publications. People who want faces from me will have to write to me on Facebook and there will be a cost for the faces they want.
Why don't you keep posting the images on the VK website?? We know the page there. Post images here and there and the link there on VK.

But if you don't have PayPal in your country, how do we do it? If anyone wants to pay.
 

splashsergio

Reserves
I reported you my friend, and I'm not sorry (I will explain), nor hiding. As you perhaps know my thread was deleted about three years ago for using Linkvertise links, and then I left the forum and for three years I was watching you and many other facemakers using that site and other link shorteners without any consequences, even though you should've all been banned alongside me three years ago if the same rules were applied to everybody, but they were not and I was the only one sanctioned. Back then I was reported by anonymous users, cowards if you ask me, and you at least know who reported you and I think that is fair, I'm ready for any sort of backlash I will recieve for saying this publicly.

Now, I did not report you to start a personal beef with you or any other facemaker (I will probably report others who uses publishing techniques forbidden by the forum as soon as I have time to go around and check on others), nor I did it to seek personal revenge for what happened to me. I always supported your work and work of every modder who invested their time and energy into FIFA 14, or any other FIFA game for that matter, because I know we all just wanted to make games better for people to play. I downloaded your faces and respected your work, and I absolutely understand that we facemakers want to gain a bit of compensation for the time we invest to make mods - and there I am on your side. But same rules must be applied to everybody, and the rules say that paid links here are forbidden.

Now, my final goal in all this, is that we, as a community, as a union of facemakers if you wish to call it that, rebel in a way against the pointless rule that forbids paid links, and to force a change of that rule. I think paid links should absolutely be allowed here. They are allowed on Facebook and other platforms, I really don't see why they wouldn't be allowed here. Paid links cost the users of this forum NOTHING, except a bit of their time and few extra clicks (to all those who were saying that paid links install malware - you're on the internet, do you really think any of your devices is not already full of harmless malware, such as add trackers?? Lets be serious here). And as you said, if people are not ready to spend a minute to download your face, that took you hours to make, then they don't deserve your hustle and they don't deserve that face. When the best facemakers are gone from this forum because their work and time are not being respected, and they are being banned for posting paid links, only then will the administration of this forum realize what a terrible decision they are making, killing these games, in this case our beloved FIFA 14, by themselves, by their own decisions.

If we all gather and ask for rule change, ask for paid links to be allowed, only then we have a chance to set the same rules for everyone and be (in a very humble way btw because we don't make thousands of dollars from paid links as many people think) compensated for out time and effort. That is why I reported you and that is why I will report every facemaker I see use paid links. I want to finally trigger a wider reaction. When I was banned no facemaker stood by my side, no facemaker backed me up. I hope now with your thread in danger I can provoke a group reaction. Only if we react all together we can actually bring a much needed change and get the right to use paid links on Soccergaming forum. I even propose we all have a big poll, in which we, members, would all vote for/against paid links on Soccergaming. We want to live in a democracy, lets live in a democracy then.

Bless you all, and once again, Jeff my friend, sorry not sorry. I think this was a necessary action.
People like you are left over in this community.
 

Turan

Club Supporter
I don't comment much on this site, but I noticed that facemakers are dramatic and very sentimental.
Rale could have moved on without any regrets but decided to take it out on someone else for equality.
Jeff can simply post links here when he publishes a face with a paid link on another site, the person clicks on the link he posts here, we go to the other site and there we go to his paid links, very simple, you don't need to stop doing what is doing, this is a small accident.
My grandmother has a serious illness, that is a problem.
 

Faces by Jeff

Youth Team
Why don't you keep posting the images on the VK website?? We know the page there. Post images here and there and the link there on VK.

But if you don't have PayPal in your country, how do we do it? If anyone wants to pay.
good question and the answer is that I was investigating how paypal can work in my country and if there is a way it is somewhat complex but there is a way what I should do is create an account with a couple of details from another country where paypal is allowed soon I will create an account alone I have to find the right person and luckily I have a couple of friends who are not from my country who I think can help me with that.
 

Faces by Jeff

Youth Team
I don't comment much on this site, but I noticed that facemakers are dramatic and very sentimental.
Rale could have moved on without any regrets but decided to take it out on someone else for equality.
Jeff can simply post links here when he publishes a face with a paid link on another site, the person clicks on the link he posts here, we go to the other site and there we go to his paid links, very simple, you don't need to stop doing what is doing, this is a small accident.
My grandmother has a serious illness, that is a problem.
You are right, very dramatic but hey, about publishing on another site, I tried it in vk but it was not the same as in this forum
 

RALE

Youth Team
My friend, what you did was wrong, you attacked the wrong person, he is not to blame for the rules.

You harm the entire community just as we were harmed when you were banned...

If you are harmed, as you are, good, then unite and collectively force Soccergaming to change the rules. That is my whole point with all this.

I fully support Jeff's (and every other facemaker who desire to get their compensation and to be valued for what they bring to the community). And, it's not me who harm the community, it's the administration of this forum with a silly rule.
 

splashsergio

Reserves
And for everybody that is mocking me, I don't mind being trashed or being labeled as "dramatic" if it's for the right cause. I think it's way worse to be a hypocrite.
Well, the definition of hypocrite is precisely what you have done. Since you precisely complained about the reports they made to you. When you have also reported the same complaints about another user.
 

Ealixo

Youth Team
good question and the answer is that I was investigating how paypal can work in my country and if there is a way it is somewhat complex but there is a way what I should do is create an account with a couple of details from another country where paypal is allowed soon I will create an account alone I have to find the right person and luckily I have a couple of friends who are not from my country who I think can help me with that.
Try doing as they said, post the image of your face here with a link to your page on Facebook or VK where the paid link will be, I think you will have the same results as if it were here.
 

brunomartins009

Club Supporter
Hi Jeff, I'm a lover of your work and I would like to ask you not to stop sharing your faces for free. Many are unable to pay for them (Even though I think your work deserves a lot of value, and if I could I would pay for each face published with the greatest pleasure), and I believe that someone who loves their work like me would have no problem seeing as many ads as necessary to access your faces.

Try to do as Ealixo said, post the photo with an external link to VK, but please don't stop sharing your faces for free.
 

Faces by Jeff

Youth Team
Hi Jeff, I'm a lover of your work and I would like to ask you not to stop sharing your faces for free. Many are unable to pay for them (Even though I think your work deserves a lot of value, and if I could I would pay for each face published with the greatest pleasure), and I believe that someone who loves their work like me would have no problem seeing as many ads as necessary to access your faces.

Try to do as Ealixo said, post the photo with an external link to VK, but please don't stop sharing your faces for free.
Voy a pensarlo pasa que aveces la gente se cabrea con tanto anuncio recibi críticas por anuncios de caras en PES
Gracias por el apoyo tomare en cuenta de esto tal vez me cree una pagina de facebook es mas si tengo una pero esta dedica a PES
 

Faces by Jeff

Youth Team
Pls don't stop of share your faces,are amazing,i really appreciate them. I'm from Argentina and i can't pay.Some may know that the situation in my country is not good.
Voy a ver la forma de publicar caras no en este foro porque piensan que enlaces de pago o bien les hace daño o bien creen que me hare millonario de todas formas no quiero tener problemas en este foro por los enlaces vere la forma bien sera en facebook porque en vk no resulto
 

Chuny

Chairman
Staff member
Administrator
Super Moderator
Voy a pensarlo pasa que aveces la gente se cabrea con tanto anuncio recibi críticas por anuncios de caras en PES
Gracias por el apoyo tomare en cuenta de esto tal vez me cree una pagina de facebook es mas si tengo una pero esta dedica a PES

Voy a ver la forma de publicar caras no en este foro porque piensan que enlaces de pago o bien les hace daño o bien creen que me hare millonario de todas formas no quiero tener problemas en este foro por los enlaces vere la forma bien sera en facebook porque en vk no resulto

Estare publicando donde se lanzara conversiones futuras ya sea de paga y gratuita habra de todo un poco


Here we have Jeff breaking yet another rule. Posting in non-English languages in 3 posts in a row.

What should I do, guys? Honestly.


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If I ban him, then I'm the bad guy. Although the rules are very clear and everybody can read them. In fact, there's a huge message box pinned at the top of the forum that forces you to see it every time you come in to SoccerGaming.

Jeff doesn't seem to think rules apply to him.

Honestly... what should I do?-


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Chuny

Chairman
Staff member
Administrator
Super Moderator
If you are harmed, as you are, good, then unite and collectively force Soccergaming to change the rules. That is my whole point with all this.

I fully support Jeff's (and every other facemaker who desire to get their compensation and to be valued for what they bring to the community). And, it's not me who harm the community, it's the administration of this forum with a silly rule.

You might be unaware of the fact that back when FIFA 19 and FIFA 20 came out, and people started to post Mods behind a paywall or use non-direct download links that would generate some money for them, I was in favor of that, I thought it was time for people to be able to get retribution for their work.
In fact, I allowed it to happen.

Not only 90% of the Forum was completely against it but they were literally fighting everyday in here, insulting each other and many of them were leaving SoccerGaming because of that. It was complete chaos.

But also, the remaining 10% of the Forum were only sharing screenshots of their work and saying "if you want to download it, join my Discord" or "Subscribe to [Insert A Paid Site Here]". Modders were using Soccergaming to get their own communities growing and getting money in the meantime.

So I decided to change the rules and listen to the vast majority that did not want it to be this way.

Also, let me point out just how hypocritical your POV is: You all sign-up to SoccerGaming FOR FREE. You use your accounts FOR FREE. You create threads FOR FREE. And yet.... you want to earn money off of a site that doesn't cost you anything while I pay for the server/hosting/etc?. - Stop and think about that for just a moment.

There are plenty of paid mods and modders out there and other communities that will let you join if you pay for their content. But I want SoccerGaming to remain as pure as it can be.

That's why I allow your PayPals (or other DONATION-BASED SITES) to be shared and if people willingly want to donate, that's OK. But Mods must be shared for free.

I can't please everybody. There will always be people who complain about one decision or the other. That's how human beings are.

So... now the rules are very clear: Either you agree with them and follow them.
Or those who disagree with the rules are completely free to leave.

If you disagree with the rules, go ahead and create your own forum, set your own rules and see if it will be as easy as you think it is.

But don't try to start a new revolution here because it will result in Threads getting closed/deleted and accounts being permanently banned.

I'm trying to maintain peace in here, and that cannot happen unless rules are very clear. Like in every single community around the world.
 
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