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FIFA 11 PS3 Gameplay Patch for FIFA 11 PC by Doctor+ Productions

Raindog42

Youth Team
stingo;2983225 said:
Ok. I still want an explanation. I think the author has some responsibility when he decides to share his work with the public. Currently to me it looks like a fraud or stupidity. I do not care about personal flames I want an explanation on simple technical questions. So how does the patch work in your opinion guys or you dodge again?

Can't you find out, being a computer expert? I think it's unfair you call Fidel a liar, just because his English isn't perfect. Maybe you should try communicating in Spanish with him, and then everything will become clear.

I'm guessing though, as a complete noob, that Fidel found a bunch of code in both pc - and concole-version, and has been editing parameters and stuff, and has been experimenting with them. Whatever changes he noticed, he described in the next version of the patch. Correct me if I'm wrong, Fidel.
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
Hi Fidel, Have you tried converting textures from WC2010 game? or other previous console FIFAs?
 

stingo

Club Supporter
That is exactly the point that I found out "something" and see some problems with the patch I explained earlier. I do not think language is a problem here. Even it is hard to understand sometimes it is still quite possible. English is also second language for me so i can understand this kind of issue. In the end he can type in his own language and convert with a translator if he is not doing it already. I said liar because he called himself a cracker hacker whatever which is not true at all. Your second point makes sense. The problem is that he is promising here such things which he obviously can not do, but people just believe him blindly. so do those cameras work or not?
Since you call me expert again (i am not exactly) I can add that currently the only true way to adjust gameplay seems to be by changing players and teams parameters in the game. It has been done by several modders here by changing extracted game settings database. This approach works to a certain degree, but the database seems to lack some parameters one would want to adjust. So I am still in the search of ways of changing AI gameplay.

Raindog42;2983324 said:
Can't you find out, being a computer expert? I think it's unfair you call Fidel a liar, just because his English isn't perfect. Maybe you should try communicating in Spanish with him, and then everything will become clear.

I'm guessing though, as a complete noob, that Fidel found a bunch of code in both pc - and concole-version, and has been editing parameters and stuff, and has been experimenting with them. Whatever changes he noticed, he described in the next version of the patch. Correct me if I'm wrong, Fidel.
 

taptaptap

Club Supporter
stingo;2983472 said:
That is exactly the point that I found out "something" and see some problems with the patch I explained earlier. I do not think language is a problem here. Even it is hard to understand sometimes it is still quite possible. English is also second language for me so i can understand this kind of issue. In the end he can type in his own language and convert with a translator if he is not doing it already. I said liar because he called himself a cracker hacker whatever which is not true at all. Your second point makes sense. The problem is that he is promising here such things which he obviously can not do, but people just believe him blindly. so do those cameras work or not?
Since you call me expert again (i am not exactly) I can add that currently the only true way to adjust gameplay seems to be by changing players and teams parameters in the game. It has been done by several modders here by changing extracted game settings database. This approach works to a certain degree, but the database seems to lack some parameters one would want to adjust. So I am still in the search of ways of changing AI gameplay.
hi everyone, just registering the forum to react to this.
well, I already played both FIFA's original gameplay and Fidel's. And trust me, Fidel did a noticeable change into the gameplay, while your point about how the PC engine could recognize the PS3's files is quite make sense too.

as we know FIFA 11 pc is using console ver of FIFA 10's engine, which originaly there's shouldn't any FIFA 11 console version code on it, right?
but what if PC ver of '11, is a '10 engine with some tweaks from EA which is now contains some codes from console ver of 11 (or even all of the codes, but deactivated)?

that is a good reason why fidel could found those possible "conversion" from console to PC i think, btw i'm a noob to PC programming, just trying to share my opininons.
OH, and the camera did works, perfectly.
 

stingo

Club Supporter
taptaptap;2983488 said:
well, I already played both FIFA's original gameplay and Fidel's. And trust me, Fidel did a noticeable change into the gameplay, while your point about how the PC engine could recognize the PS3's files is quite make sense too.
OH, and the camera did works, perfectly.

Exactly. There are changes in the gameplay which appear from first versions only (I think). I am questioning last versions of the patch affecting AI. Since it is not a rocket science what fidel is doing i want to know exactly which files affect the gameplay. The author does not seem to know this even he claims so many things in the thread. I doubt that files added to the package can affect anything... unfortunately. Prove me wrong. May be you are right that exe has functionality to read those newly added files if they are present in the package if source codes are the same for ps3 and pc (we dont know). It is possible to establish if this is true or not and the author is the closest to answer this question (i don't have ps3 for example), but remains silent.

The questions are still open. What are the files exactly which change the gameplay when added to data0.big? So far I noticed there are replaced files starting with the name "attrib" and I am thinking that the changes come from them. Me like you registered to reply to this thread after some research. :)
 

Fr33s†yle

Club Supporter
Fidel Gameplay;2983133 said:
so I know who you are! but people here know what I do and always know what I create!!

I work night and day to Hybrid and my music is my other passion!!!

EDIT1: I do not want to spend any more words for you, becouse you with your words put in doubt many people / editor that support me!!!

:33vff3o:play fifa with Hybrid and enjoy the real game!!
:33vff3o:

tell them whats up fidel...hey I have a question...sorry if anyones asked this already but i noticed on the ps3/xbox versions of fifa theres skill moves not available to the fifa 11 pc version...would it be possible to import those skill moves through the hybrid gameplay? oh and for those using the game tool v1 online patch...what version of hybrid gameplay would you consider that?...thanks again for ur work, peace :clapwap: :33vff3o: :bob: :icon_spin: :browsmiley:
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
@ stingo:
I do not have to explain anything to you!!
because here we discuss a problem that does not exist....
This person has made a very wrong here, without regard to anyone, without saying goodbye, he just criticized my work.
Hybrid works fine, you do not want to understand or pretend..
Because you're here to talk bad about me....

everything you say is technically wrong.......

however, in this moment I can not explain the work of 5 months!!!

you are really off track with your technical explanation about gameplay!!!

almost all of the GP has no more secrets, I do not speak good English but I speak very well with the programs...
I came in symbiosis with FIFA!!!
I have found almost everything about GP!!!
I do not like to speak well of myself but all my patches can prove everything I say ... this is what it's worth, ... this is important ....
.. what is your purpose here? download the patches that are here and play? NO! you are here only to criticize and this is very strange ...

however, the criticism I have always done well. when I answered the criticism with the actual facts!!!

..everyone here knows that my patches are brilliant and unique!!


One last thing for everyone, soon will come out a great Hybrid Gameplay 4.0 ALPHA, based on new discoveries....
very soon all the details

Best regards to everyone........


I almost forgot: I discovered every player traits, I sent the entire list to Rinaldo thanked me, still not enough but now we have all the traits, this is the complete list, a preview:

copy and paste from HEX EDITOR (sorry for the formatting):

DB_TRAIT_GK_ONE_ON_ONES.DB_TRAIT_LONG_THROWER...DB_TRAIT_PUNCHER....DB_TRAIT_PUSHES_UP_FOR_CORNERS.. DB_TRAIT_PENALTY_SAVING.DB_TRAIT_RUSHES_OUT_OF_GOAL.DB_TRAIT_STAYS_ON_GOAL_LINE.DB_TRAIT_COMES_FOR_CROSSES.. DB_TRAIT_CAUTIOUS_WITH_CROSSES..DB_TRAIT_PUSHES_FORWARD.DB_TRAIT_PLAYER_MAKER...DB_TRAIT_WING_PLAYER... .DB_TRAIT_HOLDS_UP...DB_TRAIT_FORWARD_PUSHES_WIDE_LEFT...DB_TRAIT_FORWARD_PUSHES_WIDE_RIGHT.. DB_TRAIT_TRIES_TO_BEAT_OFFSIDE_TRAP.DB_TRAIT_TARGET_FORWARD.DB_TRAIT_FANCY_FEET.DB_TRAIT_CHIPPED_PENALTY... .DB_TRAIT_SWITCHES_BALL_TO_OTHER_FLANK...DB_TRAIT_TRIES_FIRST_TIME_SHOTS.DB_TRAIT_TAKES_POWERFUL_DRIVEN_FREE_KICKS.. .DB_TRAIT_TAKES_FINESSE_STYLE_FREE_KICKS.DB_TRAIT_THROUGH_BALLS..DB_TRAIT_TECHNICAL_DRIBBLER.DB_TRAIT_SPEED_DRIBBLER. DB_TRAIT_OUTSIDE_PASSER.DB_TRAIT_ONE_TIME_PASSER....DB_TRAIT_LONG_SHOT_TAKER....DB_TRAIT_GIANT_THROW... .DB_TRAIT_LONG_THROW.DB_TRAIT_LONG_PASSER....DB_TRAIT_JUGGLER....DB_TRAIT_POWER_HEADER...DB_TRAIT_FINESSE_HEADER.DB_TRAIT_HEEL_PASSER.. ..DB_TRAIT_FLAIR..DB_TRAIT_OUTSIDE_FOOT_SHOT..DB_TRAIT_FINESSE_SHOT...DB_TRAIT_LATE_CROSSER. ..DB_TRAIT_EARLY_CROSSER..DB_TRAIT_COUNTER_ATTACKING..DB_TRAIT_1_2_PASSER.DB_TRAIT_CORNER_SPECIALIST..DB_TRAIT_ARGUES_WITH_OFFICIALS. .DB_TRAIT_PUMPS_UP_TEAM_MATES....DB_TRAIT_PUMPS_UP_CROWD.DB_TRAIT_RESPONSIBILITY_TAKER...DB_TRAIT_LEADERSHIP.DB_TRAIT_LOW_CONCENTRATION.. DB_TRAIT_SUPER_SUB..DB_TRAIT_SELFISH....DB_TRAIT_LOW_DETERMINATION..DB_TRAIT_HIGH_DETERMINATION. DB_TRAIT_RISK_TAKER.DB_TRAIT_CHICKEN_HEADER.DB_TRAIT_INFLEXIBILITY..DB_TRAIT_ACROBATIC_CLEARANCE... .DB_TRAIT_SECOND_WIND....DB_TRAIT_DIVES_INTO_TACKLES.DB_TRAIT_AVOIDS_USING_WEAKER_FOOT.. .DB_TRAIT_SOLID_PLAYER...DB_TRAIT_INJURY_PRONE...DB_TRAIT_DIVER

not all activated / assigned to FIFA 11 PC (half active in FIFA 11 PS3) this is the personality plus......
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
Thank you so much for all these codes Fidel! :D

I've also sent you a PM. ;)

For simplicity I have made them into a list:

DB_TRAIT_GK_ONE_ON_ONES
DB_TRAIT_LONG_THROWER
DB_TRAIT_PUNCHER
DB_TRAIT_PUSHES_UP_FOR_CORNERS
DB_TRAIT_PENALTY_SAVING
DB_TRAIT_RUSHES_OUT_OF_GOAL
DB_TRAIT_STAYS_ON_GOAL_LINE
DB_TRAIT_COMES_FOR_CROSSES
DB_TRAIT_CAUTIOUS_WITH_CROSSES
DB_TRAIT_PUSHES_FORWARD
DB_TRAIT_PLAYER_MAKER
DB_TRAIT_WING_PLAYER
DB_TRAIT_HOLDS_UP
DB_TRAIT_FORWARD_PUSHES_WIDE_LEFT
DB_TRAIT_FORWARD_PUSHES_WIDE_RIGHT
DB_TRAIT_TRIES_TO_BEAT_OFFSIDE_TRAP
DB_TRAIT_TARGET_FORWARD
DB_TRAIT_FANCY_FEET
DB_TRAIT_CHIPPED_PENALTY
DB_TRAIT_SWITCHES_BALL_TO_OTHER_FLANK
DB_TRAIT_TRIES_FIRST_TIME_SHOTS
DB_TRAIT_TAKES_POWERFUL_DRIVEN_FREE_KICKS
DB_TRAIT_TAKES_FINESSE_STYLE_FREE_KICKS
DB_TRAIT_THROUGH_BALLS
DB_TRAIT_TECHNICAL_DRIBBLER
DB_TRAIT_SPEED_DRIBBLER
DB_TRAIT_OUTSIDE_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_ONE_TIME_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_LONG_SHOT_TAKER
DB_TRAIT_GIANT_THROW
DB_TRAIT_LONG_THROW
DB_TRAIT_LONG_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_JUGGLER
DB_TRAIT_POWER_HEADER
DB_TRAIT_FINESSE_HEADER
DB_TRAIT_HEEL_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_FLAIR
DB_TRAIT_OUTSIDE_FOOT_SHOT
DB_TRAIT_FINESSE_SHOT
DB_TRAIT_LATE_CROSSER
DB_TRAIT_EARLY_CROSSER
DB_TRAIT_COUNTER_ATTACKING
DB_TRAIT_1_2_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_CORNER_SPECIALIST
DB_TRAIT_ARGUES_WITH_OFFICIALS
DB_TRAIT_PUMPS_UP_TEAM_MATES
DB_TRAIT_PUMPS_UP_CROWD
DB_TRAIT_RESPONSIBILITY_TAKER
DB_TRAIT_LEADERSHIP
DB_TRAIT_LOW_CONCENTRATION
DB_TRAIT_SUPER_SUB
DB_TRAIT_SELFISH
DB_TRAIT_LOW_DETERMINATION
DB_TRAIT_HIGH_DETERMINATION
DB_TRAIT_RISK_TAKER
DB_TRAIT_CHICKEN_HEADER
DB_TRAIT_INFLEXIBILITY
DB_TRAIT_ACROBATIC_CLEARANCE
DB_TRAIT_SECOND_WIND
DB_TRAIT_DIVES_INTO_TACKLES
DB_TRAIT_AVOIDS_USING_WEAKER_FOOT
DB_TRAIT_SOLID_PLAYER
DB_TRAIT_INJURY_PRONE
DB_TRAIT_DIVER
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
Just to comment on these accusations by stingo; True they might just be codes already done by EA, but they are new in terms of being applied to FIFA11 PC. You should give Fidel credits for him to be able to get those things to work at all.

Also, Most of these trait codes have appeared even in FIFA CG versions on PC, which i remember from the old CG databases; so it's very possible that they can work on NG if they appear on console vers.
 

stingo

Club Supporter
RobbieD_PL;2983590 said:
Just to comment on these accusations by stingo; True they might just be codes already done by EA, but they are new in terms of being applied to FIFA11 PC. You should give Fidel credits for him to be able to get those things to work at all.

Also, Most of these trait codes have appeared even in FIFA CG versions on PC, which i remember from the old CG databases; so it's very possible that they can work on NG if they appear on console vers.

What do you mean codes? I meant EA C++ source code for fifa, which you can not "apply". do you know how exe files are created?
I want to know how they actually work because I am keen enough to understand it. So far I found most of these things are are very unlikely to work unless there is some obvious evidence.
 

stingo

Club Supporter
RobbieD_PL;2983583 said:
Thank you so much for all these codes Fidel! :D

I've also sent you a PM. ;)

For simplicity I have made them into a list:

DB_TRAIT_GK_ONE_ON_ONES
DB_TRAIT_LONG_THROWER
DB_TRAIT_PUNCHER
DB_TRAIT_PUSHES_UP_FOR_CORNERS
DB_TRAIT_PENALTY_SAVING
DB_TRAIT_RUSHES_OUT_OF_GOAL
DB_TRAIT_STAYS_ON_GOAL_LINE
DB_TRAIT_COMES_FOR_CROSSES
DB_TRAIT_CAUTIOUS_WITH_CROSSES
DB_TRAIT_PUSHES_FORWARD
DB_TRAIT_PLAYER_MAKER
DB_TRAIT_WING_PLAYER
DB_TRAIT_HOLDS_UP
DB_TRAIT_FORWARD_PUSHES_WIDE_LEFT
DB_TRAIT_FORWARD_PUSHES_WIDE_RIGHT
DB_TRAIT_TRIES_TO_BEAT_OFFSIDE_TRAP
DB_TRAIT_TARGET_FORWARD
DB_TRAIT_FANCY_FEET
DB_TRAIT_CHIPPED_PENALTY
DB_TRAIT_SWITCHES_BALL_TO_OTHER_FLANK
DB_TRAIT_TRIES_FIRST_TIME_SHOTS
DB_TRAIT_TAKES_POWERFUL_DRIVEN_FREE_KICKS
DB_TRAIT_TAKES_FINESSE_STYLE_FREE_KICKS
DB_TRAIT_THROUGH_BALLS
DB_TRAIT_TECHNICAL_DRIBBLER
DB_TRAIT_SPEED_DRIBBLER
DB_TRAIT_OUTSIDE_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_ONE_TIME_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_LONG_SHOT_TAKER
DB_TRAIT_GIANT_THROW
DB_TRAIT_LONG_THROW
DB_TRAIT_LONG_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_JUGGLER
DB_TRAIT_POWER_HEADER
DB_TRAIT_FINESSE_HEADER
DB_TRAIT_HEEL_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_FLAIR
DB_TRAIT_OUTSIDE_FOOT_SHOT
DB_TRAIT_FINESSE_SHOT
DB_TRAIT_LATE_CROSSER
DB_TRAIT_EARLY_CROSSER
DB_TRAIT_COUNTER_ATTACKING
DB_TRAIT_1_2_PASSER
DB_TRAIT_CORNER_SPECIALIST
DB_TRAIT_ARGUES_WITH_OFFICIALS
DB_TRAIT_PUMPS_UP_TEAM_MATES
DB_TRAIT_PUMPS_UP_CROWD
DB_TRAIT_RESPONSIBILITY_TAKER
DB_TRAIT_LEADERSHIP
DB_TRAIT_LOW_CONCENTRATION
DB_TRAIT_SUPER_SUB
DB_TRAIT_SELFISH
DB_TRAIT_LOW_DETERMINATION
DB_TRAIT_HIGH_DETERMINATION
DB_TRAIT_RISK_TAKER
DB_TRAIT_CHICKEN_HEADER
DB_TRAIT_INFLEXIBILITY
DB_TRAIT_ACROBATIC_CLEARANCE
DB_TRAIT_SECOND_WIND
DB_TRAIT_DIVES_INTO_TACKLES
DB_TRAIT_AVOIDS_USING_WEAKER_FOOT
DB_TRAIT_SOLID_PLAYER
DB_TRAIT_INJURY_PRONE
DB_TRAIT_DIVER

And so what do these settings mean? which file contains them? do they work and is there any solid evidence of that?
 

RobbieD_PL

Unreliable deceiver
Staff member
Moderator
How they work is hard to establish; but some of them are already evident in terms of the Virtual Pro. for ex. Second Wind, Giant Throw. Those for ex are already unlockable.
 

stingo

Club Supporter
Wow this guy is not quite adequate. I am trying to have technical discussion here in which you suck balls apparently. I had a simple question. You are so awesome that whatever I say is "technically wrong". "GP has no more secrets" wow you must be EA developer to know this. So basically you lie everywhere and pollute thread with nonsense strings from some settings files without explaining what they do or if they work. Is it intended to show how brilliant you are? You do not need to explain your hard work, you need to be able to answer simple questions though.

According to this post I can conclude that this guy is either an idiot (which really looks so), has enormous ego to please, or found a way to promote his music and website. It is probably all of those. He obviously does not like me in the thread since I am asking right questions.

Fidel Gameplay;2983518 said:
@ stingo:
I do not have to explain anything to you!!
because here we discuss a problem that does not exist....
This person has made a very wrong here, without regard to anyone, without saying goodbye, he just criticized my work.
Hybrid works fine, you do not want to understand or pretend..
Because you're here to talk bad about me....

everything you say is technically wrong.......

however, in this moment I can not explain the work of 5 months!!!

you are really off track with your technical explanation about gameplay!!!

almost all of the GP has no more secrets, I do not speak good English but I speak very well with the programs...
I came in symbiosis with FIFA!!!
I have found almost everything about GP!!!
I do not like to speak well of myself but all my patches can prove everything I say ... this is what it's worth, ... this is important ....
.. what is your purpose here? download the patches that are here and play? NO! you are here only to criticize and this is very strange ...

however, the criticism I have always done well. when I answered the criticism with the actual facts!!!

..everyone here knows that my patches are brilliant and unique!!


One last thing for everyone, soon will come out a great Hybrid Gameplay 4.0 ALPHA, based on new discoveries....
very soon all the details

Best regards to everyone........


I almost forgot: I discovered every player traits, I sent the entire list to Rinaldo thanked me, still not enough but now we have all the traits, this is the complete list, a preview:

copy and paste from HEX EDITOR (sorry for the formatting):

DB_TRAIT_GK_ONE_ON_ONES.DB_TRAIT_LONG_THROWER...DB_TRAIT_PUNCHER....DB_TRAIT_PUSHES_UP_FOR_CORNERS.. DB_TRAIT_PENALTY_SAVING.DB_TRAIT_RUSHES_OUT_OF_GOAL.DB_TRAIT_STAYS_ON_GOAL_LINE.DB_TRAIT_COMES_FOR_CROSSES.. DB_TRAIT_CAUTIOUS_WITH_CROSSES..DB_TRAIT_PUSHES_FORWARD.DB_TRAIT_PLAYER_MAKER...DB_TRAIT_WING_PLAYER... .DB_TRAIT_HOLDS_UP...DB_TRAIT_FORWARD_PUSHES_WIDE_LEFT...DB_TRAIT_FORWARD_PUSHES_WIDE_RIGHT.. DB_TRAIT_TRIES_TO_BEAT_OFFSIDE_TRAP.DB_TRAIT_TARGET_FORWARD.DB_TRAIT_FANCY_FEET.DB_TRAIT_CHIPPED_PENALTY... .DB_TRAIT_SWITCHES_BALL_TO_OTHER_FLANK...DB_TRAIT_TRIES_FIRST_TIME_SHOTS.DB_TRAIT_TAKES_POWERFUL_DRIVEN_FREE_KICKS.. .DB_TRAIT_TAKES_FINESSE_STYLE_FREE_KICKS.DB_TRAIT_THROUGH_BALLS..DB_TRAIT_TECHNICAL_DRIBBLER.DB_TRAIT_SPEED_DRIBBLER. DB_TRAIT_OUTSIDE_PASSER.DB_TRAIT_ONE_TIME_PASSER....DB_TRAIT_LONG_SHOT_TAKER....DB_TRAIT_GIANT_THROW... .DB_TRAIT_LONG_THROW.DB_TRAIT_LONG_PASSER....DB_TRAIT_JUGGLER....DB_TRAIT_POWER_HEADER...DB_TRAIT_FINESSE_HEADER.DB_TRAIT_HEEL_PASSER.. ..DB_TRAIT_FLAIR..DB_TRAIT_OUTSIDE_FOOT_SHOT..DB_TRAIT_FINESSE_SHOT...DB_TRAIT_LATE_CROSSER. ..DB_TRAIT_EARLY_CROSSER..DB_TRAIT_COUNTER_ATTACKING..DB_TRAIT_1_2_PASSER.DB_TRAIT_CORNER_SPECIALIST..DB_TRAIT_ARGUES_WITH_OFFICIALS. .DB_TRAIT_PUMPS_UP_TEAM_MATES....DB_TRAIT_PUMPS_UP_CROWD.DB_TRAIT_RESPONSIBILITY_TAKER...DB_TRAIT_LEADERSHIP.DB_TRAIT_LOW_CONCENTRATION.. DB_TRAIT_SUPER_SUB..DB_TRAIT_SELFISH....DB_TRAIT_LOW_DETERMINATION..DB_TRAIT_HIGH_DETERMINATION. DB_TRAIT_RISK_TAKER.DB_TRAIT_CHICKEN_HEADER.DB_TRAIT_INFLEXIBILITY..DB_TRAIT_ACROBATIC_CLEARANCE... .DB_TRAIT_SECOND_WIND....DB_TRAIT_DIVES_INTO_TACKLES.DB_TRAIT_AVOIDS_USING_WEAKER_FOOT.. .DB_TRAIT_SOLID_PLAYER...DB_TRAIT_INJURY_PRONE...DB_TRAIT_DIVER

not all activated / assigned to FIFA 11 PC (half active in FIFA 11 PS3) this is the personality plus......
 

stingo

Club Supporter
RobbieD_PL;2983595 said:
How they work is hard to establish; but some of them are already evident in terms of the Virtual Pro. for ex. Second Wind, Giant Throw. Those for ex are already unlockable.

I can see how virtual pro can work, since there is settings file for it in the pc version inside data0.big. if you change parameters in it you will probably see differences.
 


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