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FIFA 14 Better Career Patch

beta990

Reserve Team
dalb2k;3599611 said:
Following things made me stop using your mod.

- Less transfers then Vanilla. Especially on the last day of transfer window only 0-4 transfers.
I did not focus on a lot of transfers, but realistic moves. That means their are that many moves, but it should be a lot more realistic. To give some examples:
- Suarez to Bayern, Liverpool bought Rodrigo as replacement
- Mid/low-range teams, are buying players they really can effort.

dalb2k;3599611 said:
- If im not wrong, always one team of the league im playing for, is involed in all the transfers. So if i play BPL UK>GER, UK>ESP, UK>ITA, but no GER>ITA or ITA>ESP and so on.
- From what I understand, you mean that their are transfers in the league you playing in, but not in (all) other leagues? If so, than this is a bug.

dalb2k;3599611 said:
- Since your last beta i can´t sell older players. ( ~32)
If i put them on transfer list, i just get requests for loaning, which is absolutely not what i want.
Confirm, same here. I thought this was because the player only had a one year contract. Will try this with out. Could you tell me in what version this problem occurred?

dalb2k;3599611 said:
- I barely get transfer requests for my players and cpu always offers less then i expect for my players. ( if i dont put them on transfer list)
Always telling me, they can´t spend so much money ( if i dont put them on transfer list)

- On the other side cpu ask sooooooo much for their players, that it gets sometimes just frustrating. I can give you an example.

Cpu is asking €25.500.000 for following player:

21 years old, 75 ovr, 87 pot, 3 years contract, RSC Anderlecht

CPU accepted transfer after i offered, €18.500.000, but not less.

Now my player (worth €16.000.000):

21 years old, 83 ovr, 89 pot, 3 years contract, Everton

Im asking for €23.000.000, but most of time cpu dont want to spend more, then €18.000.000. After 20 attempts only once a team was ready to pay the asked price.

The relation seems wrong.
Thanks, will take a look at this.

dalb2k;3599611 said:
- I would like to see more different players grow, instead of same players grow 4-7 points in one season. In my careers is always only one GK growing over the years. The other GK´s dont grow at all. (sometimes "the choosen one" is even one of the bench players)

- Loaned players also dont grow, as i would expect.
Strange, are you sure? I loaned two players; Eisfield and Aneke and they did grown with 3/4 levels (e.g. 69>72, 69>70)

dalb2k;3599611 said:
- Management requires too much for a proportionally low budget..
- What do you mean? Do you expect to have a higher budget?

dalb2k;3599611 said:
Sorry, i dont want to blame you in any way, as i really do appreciate your work.
But some of above mentioned things are really gamebreaking for me.

Or am i the only one facing this problems with the transfers?

Anyway i wish you all happy holidays.
Ho Ho Ho ! :biggrinx:
Thanks, also best wishes to you. :)

I really appreciate your posts and sorry for all the bad experience you having. Hope to fix these things in the next version.
 

beta990

Reserve Team
runaway42;3599957 said:
I don't know where we can see transfer by other leagues maybe that's why. Unlike in FIFA13, we can see the latest transfer from other leagues but in FIFA14, all we get news of are transfers in the same league.
That's correct. However if you open the News and select the International-page, you should read news from other leagues. I did get news today about the Dutch league (Eredivisie).

runaway42;3599957 said:
Have you scouted them first? If you scouted them before inquiring or buying, you can buy them for less money. I bought Pogba in the winter first season, Juve was asking for 13Mil and I bought him for 10Mil.
Confirm, always scout first. This saves you a lot of money. This is also the reason I tweaked the player values to be higher as usual, so scouting will be more effective. (Like in the real world)

dalb2k;3599976 said:
Are you sure about that? I mean if i look at the "top-transfers" shouldn´t their also transfers from other teams/leagues appear? Played 3 seasons and always saw players from BPL oder a BPL Team involved in this transfers.

Of course i´ve scouted them, but it doesn´t change a lot. I always bid less, then they ask and cpu will tell me what their absolut minimum is. Compared to my players, it seems unbalanced. Also noticed, that only after the first season cpu starts to ask such crazy numbers for their players.

I dont use the vanilla DB. Using my own db, so this is how i now how much potential each players has. Using this mod grow is about 3-7 points in a season. But unfortunetaly still some players and especially goalkeepers dont grow that much/fast. It can happen, that players like Götze have 91 ovr, after one season.
Yes, the player values of your own club are lower. I don't know why this is, but it seems that the tweaked playervalues are only effected for the CPU. I will try to search for a solution.

But I would like to invite you to try another db. I'm playing with the moddingway one and it seems they have set player values/grown-levels more realistic. Maybe this will help and/or solve some of your problems. :)

runaway42;3599982 said:
Without this mod, have you noticed any transfer news from other leagues. I haven't really paid special interest there lol I'll have to check my game later.

The goalkeeper growth might really be slow since it is slow even in the previous versions as well as in real life. My player Rulli is 2 points in January as well as Neuer gained 1 point. Hmmm...


As for selling players, I haven't experienced much since my Bayern team, I just swapped my players to the ones I was interested in like Shaqiri for Draxler lol

I tried selling Thiago in January and the highest offer I was able to get was 26Mil so I just decided to loan him. I don't know if loaning him to a club that's offering higher wages than he was receiving will mean he's going to play more. hmmm...
Yes, GK grown is a problem. I'm also facing this issue. On the other hand, Szczesny did grown a lot when he was 25~.

Hmm, so selling a player is still a problem? On the other hand, what level was Thiago?
 

dalb2k

Youth Team
beta990;3600354 said:
I did not focus on a lot of transfers, but realistic moves. That means their are that many moves, but it should be a lot more realistic. To give some examples:
- Suarez to Bayern, Liverpool bought Rodrigo as replacement
- Mid/low-range teams, are buying players they really can effort.

I can confirm transfers are more realistic with your files.
But after a lot of testing and comparing between vanilla, your files and my files(based on yours), i really think there should be more transfers.

I see you deleted a lot of lines in transfers.ini ([TRANSFERS_LEAGUE_BUCKETS])

Any reason ?

beta990;3600354 said:
- From what I understand, you mean that their are transfers in the league you playing in, but not in (all) other leagues? If so, than this is a bug.

Yes and no. Lets take for example if play a team in the English PL.
I see some transfers between english teams and english teams with teams from other leagues. But no transfers between teams from other leagues. Especially im missing transfers between two german, spanish or italian teams.

If there are some, then so few, that i can´t see them and only between low teams.

This is the big gamebreaker for me.

beta990;3600354 said:
Confirm, same here. I thought this was because the player only had a one year contract. Will try this with out. Could you tell me in what version this problem occurred?

Yeah, also thought it has something to do with contract, but as soon a player reach age of 32 or 33, nobody wants to buy him.

I think it came with V1.3RC1 or the stable release before.


beta990;3600354 said:
Strange, are you sure? I loaned two players; Eisfield and Aneke and they did grown with 3/4 levels (e.g. 69>72, 69>70)

Sorry, have to revise this. Playergrow works fine.

beta990;3600354 said:
What do you mean? Do you expect to have a higher budget?

I think the budget is okay, but management has too high expectations.
How can they expect from me to reach semifinal in the champions league with Everton and a budget of €19.000.000 ?

beta990;3600358 said:
Confirm, always scout first. This saves you a lot of money. This is also the reason I tweaked the player values to be higher as usual, so scouting will be more effective. (Like in the real world)

Im always scouting the players first, but still i think cpu asks sometimes too much for his young talented players. But i can tweak this myself. Not a big problem.

beta990;3600358 said:
Yes, the player values of your own club are lower. I don't know why this is, but it seems that the tweaked playervalues are only effected for the CPU. I will try to search for a solution.

Yeah, after editing playervalues.ini, i also noticed, that it has more an effect on the CPU, then on my players.

beta990;3600358 said:
But I would like to invite you to try another db. I'm playing with the moddingway one and it seems they have set player values/grown-levels more realistic. Maybe this will help and/or solve some of your problems. :)

I´ve spend a lot of time for my db, so for at least the next 2 months i would like to stick with it. I´ve set players values/grow-levels my self, so i dont think here is a problem. Anyway it is even based on moddingway db.

beta990;3600358 said:
Yes, GK grown is a problem. I'm also facing this issue. On the other hand, Szczesny did grown a lot when he was 25~.

It´s like always one of the GK´s grows and the others not or later.
But im facing this problem also with vanilla. Your files make it a little bit better.


To be honest i didn´t knew you released new files on 21.12.13
I was playing with your latest files from 14.12.13

So maybe test it, or wait for your next beta?
 

beta990

Reserve Team
dalb2k;3600562 said:
To be honest i didn´t knew you released new files on 21.12.13
I was playing with your latest files from 14.12.13

So maybe test it, or wait for your next beta?
There have been a few fixes in the time between. It's up to you if you want to upgrade or use an older version. :)

I'm always using the latest version myself, because it is including some changes that I like and also the community should like. From my pov the latest versions are mostly stable and working. But there is always room for improvements for the next version (e.g. by feedback).

Anyway, I released a testing version (V1.5RC1) inside the Testing folder. It would be great if you could give this mod a second go. It would also help if you could share me your changes/modifications. :)

Yes, I deleted the transfer-buckets. I found them very confusing, but maybe they are needed. I'm thinking league-budgets/team-budgets would manage the transfer-marked. Will test, thanks for the tip.
 

runaway42

Youth Team
beta990;3600358 said:
That's correct. However if you open the News and select the International-page, you should read news from other leagues. I did get news today about the Dutch league (Eredivisie).
I'll check next time, I don't really open the news menu much lol

beta990;3600358 said:
Hmm, so selling a player is still a problem? On the other hand, what level was Thiago?

I'm using moddingway Matrix mod and your mod. Thiago is still 84. I've read somewhere that the player growth depends on the DB. Does your mod affect it? I don't see much player growth in my players. I'm still in season 1 March and just several players have grown by not more than 2 points.

Btw, do you guys adjust your sliders? I nerfed the CPU's speed and acceleration to 45 because they can catch up to my players that's totally ahead of them. I've read that you can adjust it in an ini file.
 

dalb2k

Youth Team
Will give the new testing version a try and come back with feedback to you.

Do you remember any other lines you have deleted ?

Regarding the moddingway matrix db. Im not a big fan of it.
Simply just because of the fact, that many young players have more overall, then potential?! I dont know, how this should work. Without your mod some players wouldn´t grow at all with matrix db.
 

beta990

Reserve Team
Hi all,

Today I'm releasing the Christmas version (v1.5)! In this version I focus on the gameplay and cleanup code:
- The game should feel more balance and improve player skills.
- Added (unused?) gameplay codes to rna.ini and cleanup this file.
- Added board.ini, so you can tweak your performance as manager
- And some small changes to the transfer-marked.

Hope you guys like it, and tell me if you're running into any problems. :)

Good Christmas to all!
 
Thanks for your impressive Work the last year and of that I'm sure, it will continue!
Have a mery X-Mas and a happy new year. I'm really sure, that with you as a part of the best modders we going to give FIFA 14 as unplayable in Standart-Version, a real bust and as result we gonna get the Satisfaction we deserve for paying the money for this Game.

For EA-Developers I hope the day will come, that you guys will be force to payback for that kind of bugfully Software you've been given to us each year. Keep in mind, that you cheating us every year because of your unassailable position in this market topic. Nothing will stay that way forever!!!
 

oasisbrazil

Youth Team
I have MWmod installed, after install your CM edits i get a Crash to desktop after... I used FHL (all files-take care of extern files). What could be wrong?
 

runaway42

Youth Team
oasisbrazil;3601572 said:
I have MWmod installed, after install your CM edits i get a Crash to desktop after... I used FHL (all files-take care of extern files). What could be wrong?

I had that when I first installed it. I just did a fresh install, carefully installing it where it needs to be. Try unistalling this mod then launch FIFA, if it still crashes, maybe something went wrong while regenerating.
 

Hijikata

Youth Team
I have an issue.
I have installed playergrowth.ini for my career. I am totally satisfied with my player growth but the players from other teams is way too high. I noticed that every single youngsters (Gotze, Hazard) with high potential (90<) get +5/6 overall... Gotze went from 86 to 90, Hazard from 85 to 89, Thiago Alcantara from 83 to 89... This is after the first season!

I have tried to modify my playergrowth.ini, but it doesn't work.

line 94:
CPU_PLAYERS_MATCH_RATING_AVG = 6.3
I changed 6.3 to 5.9, but the growth doesn't decrease, it is still the same.

Do you have any idea on how I could decrease the CPU growth?
 

beta990

Reserve Team
Hijikata;3602082 said:
I have an issue.
I have installed playergrowth.ini for my career. I am totally satisfied with my player growth but the players from other teams is way too high. I noticed that every single youngsters (Gotze, Hazard) with high potential (90<) get +5/6 overall... Gotze went from 86 to 90, Hazard from 85 to 89, Thiago Alcantara from 83 to 89... This is after the first season!

I have tried to modify my playergrowth.ini, but it doesn't work.

line 94:
I changed 6.3 to 5.9, but the growth doesn't decrease, it is still the same.

Do you have any idea on how I could decrease the CPU growth?
Hi Hijikata,

Check the following lines in playergrowth.ini:
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_1 = 49
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_2 = 58
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_3 = 64
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_4 = 71
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_5 = 79
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_6 = 84
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_7 = 89
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_8 = 92
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_9 = 94

These are the grow steps, you could try to lower them. For example, change the last for values to lower ones (84, 89, 92, 94 > 82, 84, 86, 89). Let me know if this works (for new players).
 

Hijikata

Youth Team
beta990;3602134 said:
Hi Hijikata,

Check the following lines in playergrowth.ini:
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_1 = 49
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_2 = 58
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_3 = 64
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_4 = 71
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_5 = 79
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_6 = 84
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_7 = 89
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_8 = 92
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_9 = 94

These are the grow steps, you could try to lower them. For example, change the last for values to lower ones (84, 89, 92, 94 > 82, 84, 86, 89). Let me know if this works (for new players).
It doesn't seem to work :/
Here's what I have:
MAX_USER_GROWTH = 4

MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_1 = 10
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_2 = 7
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_3 = 6
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_4 = 6
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_5 = 2
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_6 = 2
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_7 = 2
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_8 = 2
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_9 = 2

MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_1 = 55
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_2 = 65
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_3 = 70
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_4 = 75
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_5 = 79
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_6 = 82
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_7 = 84
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_8 = 86
MAX_ANNUAL_GROWTH_DIVISION_9 = 89
and that :
PHYS_P1_X = 16
PHYS_P1_Y = 65
PHYS_P2_X = 22
PHYS_P2_Y = 110
PHYS_P3_X = 27
PHYS_P3_Y = 110
PHYS_P4_X = 39
PHYS_P4_Y = 65

SKILL_P1_X = 16
SKILL_P1_Y = 70
SKILL_P2_X = 25
SKILL_P2_Y = 100
SKILL_P3_X = 29
SKILL_P3_Y = 100
SKILL_P4_X = 39
SKILL_P4_Y = 70

MENTAL_P1_X = 17
MENTAL_P1_Y = 80
MENTAL_P2_X = 30
MENTAL_P2_Y = 100
MENTAL_P3_X = 34
MENTAL_P3_Y = 100
MENTAL_P4_X = 39
MENTAL_P4_Y = 90
I still get the exact same growth... Young players (20/23) with high potential almost reach it by the end of the first season while older players just don't grow (25/30).
 

dalb2k

Youth Team
Hey beta990,

this is your best release so far.
As you are doing many things right, i will just talk about what still need balancing in my opinion.

You really have to lower the transfervalues. After 2 years Benteke (87 ovr.) from Aston Villa is worth about &#8364;100.000.000. CPI will accept offers around &#8364;82.000.000, but this is still too much. Maybe in real world, some crazy club would be ready to pay this, but this is not working in Fifa.

Maybe you should also check/try again the deleted transfer bucket lines in transfers.ini
It seems to be better with them.

Maybe you can explain your values for PLAYERTOPXONCURRENTTEAM & TOPXSTARTEAM. I see you´ve changed them to 1.0 ?

Im asking because i saw Neuer and Alaba from FC Bayern way to often transfered to an other club. So they had only one LB in their team with Contento (72). Thought they should get a replacement for Alaba.

Once FC Bayern got Lloris, while keeping Neuer. So they had two worldclass GK´s in the team?!

Beside that i like how the transfers are balanced now. All bugs are gone.

The player retirement needs a slightly balance. If an old player still plays a lot of games, he shouldn´t retire with 31/32. Also i see sometimes player decided to retire at the age of 30. Maybe rework the retire script?

Pls also explain the changes for gameplay. Compared to your last release, it feels now a little bit jumpy and sometimes my players cant controll the ball without any reason.
Also i can´t controll my players while celebrating a goal. GK´s always hold the ball in one hand,.....Can this be effects of your changes, or did i messed up something with my files?!

The last thing, i would like you to ask is, if there is any way to make CPU play more offensive. Im playing on Legendary and still it feels sometimes too easy. Especially in the defense.

Thanks in advance for your answer and keep up your good work !!!
 

caliber21

Club Supporter
There is someone know how to unlock edit player in career mode? I play in offline so i can't buy it in store. I really need this :(
 

runaway42

Youth Team
dalb2k;3602705 said:
Pls also explain the changes for gameplay. Compared to your last release, it feels now a little bit jumpy and sometimes my players cant controll the ball without any reason.
Also i can´t controll my players while celebrating a goal. GK´s always hold the ball in one hand,.....Can this be effects of your changes, or did i messed up something with my files?!
Yes I noticed this too. A player about to receive the ball just fumbles over it. It was fine before this new release. The GK holding the ball to is something I've seen. They seem to not be able to quickly throw the ball.
 


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