FIFA 16 News

[bangus]

Those are the exact same specs for Fifa 15 and 16 Execpt for Minimum cpu.

Good, then FIFA 16 will still run like crap on my PC like FIFA 15 does, instead of not running at all.

 

[Sami 1999]

Good, then FIFA 16 will still run like crap on my PC like FIFA 15 does, instead of not running at all.

Don't worry. Konami has PES 16 for you. $40 only and it's less than Ps4 version's price.

 

[bangus]

Don't worry. Konami has PES 16 for you. $40 only and it's less than Ps4 version's price.

Actually neither game looks like a purchase for me this year, FIFA 16 is 80 bucks and I refuse to spend that much. And PES needs to fix the AI issues from last year, and from the gameplay videos I saw they didn't fix them.

 

[Sami 1999]

Actually neither game looks like a purchase for me this year, FIFA 16 is 80 bucks and I refuse to spend that much. And PES needs to fix the AI issues from last year, and from the gameplay videos I saw they didn't fix them.

But like you said: "You get what you paid for." And you defend Konami's shit decisions a lot if you are "angus" on evo-web forums, then you pretty much know what you said and what I meant. If you aren't that guy, then sorry for misunderstanding.

 

[Sami 1999]

What in the name of fuck are you on about?

Oh sorry. I thought you were this guy on this forum:

http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=3059585#post3059585
[See the last few pages of that thread if you wanna know what I meant]

The name is quite similar to you. So I thought you are angus.

Anyway. Apologies.

 

[bulkan]

Pes 16? no , it not enough good for me.. pes sucks. konami has crappy engine for pes. im always thinking that fox engine not ideal engine for a soccer game.
look at the horrible faces like zombies. look at the player body structures, kit types & goalies.

still too many fps drops - slow motions at some animations. (i.e goalkeeping, ball in the air..etc) no fluidty, no freedom into the actual gameplay. theres no physical contacts, battle between players. player movements are robotic. some colours are extremely intense. ball physics are strange.
and surpsise. no nextgen features for pc..tadaaaa. no enjoy, quality graphics for pc users.

even if its free, and someone gives me some money in addition, i never play pes. i wouldnt waste my time for pes. i dont expect any improvoments from konami since 2010. i think pes series getting worser year after year. pes 2010 was a legendary game. i wont spend my time for pes untill they bring us the pes 2010 structure again.

 

[campeador]

Of course he is the same person

1. Comparing a low-rez screen from 2011 to a high rez screen from 2016 tells us ZIP, pointless to say the least.
2. I'm sorry, but better graphics is the LAST thing EA needs to be working on. This game with its detailed faces, kits, tattoos etc. is already like playing "The Sims: Football Life." We don't need more Sims, we need more simulation.

And the fact is this game has made great strides in five years. I just reinstalled both FIFA 12 and FIFA 15 and have been playing both the past week. FIFA 15 is MILES improved compared FIFA 12. Now, will FIFA 2016 be enough of an improvement over 2015 to warrant a purchase along with yet another price increase? Possibly not, sure.

Paul, I spend an hour globally editing ratings, and after that I'm good for the year. FIFA plays a very good game after edits, varies its attack, takes plenty of long shots, plenty of cards and fouls, etc. That's without even talking about how line slider settings can dramatically alter CPU attack/defense AI to make teams play differently.

The same is not possible with PES. Basically, many of the player ratings in PES are simply for show, and have zero affect on actual gameplay. PES GKs with ratings boosted to 99, play as poorly as the worst rated GKs in FIFA. And there is simply no way to increase cards and fouls, the programming does not allow for it even with editing. Foul AI is non-existent. And of course no sliders so stuck with Konami's anemic default gameplay.

I am not saying that editing ratings is ideal, but at least with FIFA it is possible to edit the game and create a very pleasant, very fun football simulation.

from evo web:
2 July 15, 11:10
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Posted By angus
Re: FIFA 16 News & Discussion Thread

I re-downloaded FIFA 15 and have been playing games on Professional. I have to say the stat boost stuff has indeed been toned down significantly. Plays a very decent, very realistic, very fun game...

30 June 15, 10:50
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Posted By angus
Re: FIFA 16 News & Discussion Thread

Great post, positive review, a nice change from the usual "FIFA sucks" and "PES is shit" diatribe around here. FIFA in fact has many more team style customization options than PES, it's quite far...

23 June 15, 13:55
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Posted By angus
Re: PES 2016 News & Discussion Thread

I've been PC sports gaming since the 1980s, I went though my regressive neurosis period two decades ago. Now I just happily wait for the next version, and if it's not what I want, I don't buy it....


On soccergaming:
08-07-2015, 07:47:PM #209
bangus
Starting XI

Quote:
Originally Posted by paulv2k4 View Post
You've been editing games since 1985? C'mon now. lol. That's 3 years before I was born.

Late 1980s anyway, Links golf and the Hardball baseball series were the first.

Sounds familiar? Spotted )

 

[Sami 1999]

Spotted? You too, what the fuck are you on about? Did I deny I was anyone? I asked Sami what the fuck he was talking about. What does my opinion about Konami have to do with whether or not I buy PES 2016? The IQ level of some of you, holy mother of jesus. Stay the fuck on topic.

You didn't understand what I meant. Sorry, I ain't much good in explaining things in English.

What I meant was- you were defending Konami a lot. And your crappy PC can't run FIFA 15 next gen. So buying PES 16 might worth it since according to your opinion- releasing any crap for PC is enough than discontinuing the game for good. So you must buy the crappy port ofcourse or else there will be less sell and the game will discontinue on PC. You may say why you need to buy it- there are many other people. But a building is created with many small bricks.

 

[bangus]

You didn't understand what I meant. Sorry, I ain't much good in explaining things in English.

What I meant was- you were defending Konami a lot. And your crappy PC can't run FIFA 15 next gen. So buying PES 16 might worth it since according to your opinion- releasing any crap for PC is enough than discontinuing the game for good. So you must buy the crappy port ofcourse or else there will be less sell and the game will discontinue on PC. You may say why you need to buy it- there are many other people. But a building is created with many small bricks.

I defend Konami in the same way I defend EA: They are businesses and they are free to put out any game they like. Neither company owes us gamers anything, and complaining about these games is a waste of time. Buy the game or not depending on whether you like it, that's my stand with any game. But constantly bitching about it like little kids, like they do on EvoWeb, is just ridiculous.

 

[Sami 1999]

Pes 16? no , it not enough good for me.. pes sucks. konami has crappy engine for pes. im always thinking that fox engine not ideal engine for a soccer game.
look at the horrible faces like zombies. look at the player body structures, kit types & goalies.

still too many fps drops - slow motions at some animations. (i.e goalkeeping, ball in the air..etc) no fluidty, no freedom into the actual gameplay. theres no physical contacts, battle between players. player movements are robotic. some colours are extremely intense. ball physics are strange.
and surpsise. no nextgen features for pc..tadaaaa. no enjoy, quality graphics for pc users.

even if its free, and someone gives me some money in addition, i never play pes. i wouldnt waste my time for pes. i dont expect any improvoments from konami since 2010. i think pes series getting worser year after year. pes 2010 was a legendary game. i wont spend my time for pes untill they bring us the pes 2010 structure again.

This is the best post I've ever seen in my life.

And yes, PES 10 was beast. The best PES game of Ps3 gen. Even though the movements were robotic- the physics was best.

And with Kitserver Lod tweaking- the game looks more detailed than FIFA 15 [Not FIFA 16 though, unless they photoshop their screenshots to make it better like they do usually]. The grass was best in PES 10. The Kits were better too [Even though the body kit 3D model didnt move].

PES 13 was enjoying though, but not good as PES 10.

 

[Sami 1999]

I defend Konami in the same way I defend EA: They are businesses and they are free to put out any game they like. Neither company owes us gamers anything, and complaining about these games is a waste of time. Buy the game or not depending on whether you like it, that's my stand with any game. But bitching about it like little kids, like they do on EvoWeb, is just ridiculous.

They never owe us anything. But that doesn't mean they'll do crappy things, should they? I've explained you with my opinion there already. If its like what you said, then we should still have FIFA 98 graphics and gameplay cause they owe us nothing. But they improved since it was good for business. An believe me, making Ps4 port for PES 16 ill be good for business- now that many people like the gameplay of PES over FIFA.

And not everyone was bitching. They only said they want good port. That makes you abnormal there and maybe the more like you are the one whos bitching to save konami's ass.

No offence. I just wanna clear things up. Sorry for being a bit harsh.

 

[bangus]

And not everyone was bitching.
No offence. I just wanna clear things up. Sorry for being a bit harsh.

That's fine, no problem, I just don't understand why you think I'm defending Konami. Check my post history there, I have posted plenty about all the issues with PES 2015. That game is completely broken in some areas. I have said I won't buy PES 2016 until I know Konami has fixed those several issues.

FIFA 16 I would buy Day 1 if the price was lower. At least with FIFA I can edit the hell out of it and get it to play a decent game of football. Can't do that with PES because it doesn't have sliders, doesn't have editing tools, and many of the player ratings and tactics settings are broken and can't be fixed even with edits.

As for bitching: Yes, EvoWeb is overrun with many whining trolls because the mods allow it. That's the one difference between that site and this one.

 

[Sami 1999]

That's fine, no problem, I just don't understand why you think I'm defending Konami. Check my post history there, I have posted plenty about all the issues with PES 2015. That game is completely broken in some areas. I have said I won't buy PES 2016 until I know Konami has fixed those several issues.

FIFA 16 I would buy Day 1 if the price was lower. At least with FIFA I can edit the hell out of it and get it to play a decent game of football. Can't do that with PES because it doesn't have sliders, doesn't have editing tools, and many of the player ratings and tactics settings are broken and can't be fixed even with edits.

Okay, I got it. But you should know that making Ps4 port would have been better and it wouldn't be a much of a problem to port it too. That's what all I meant and your post were like you support crappy port. Sorry for misunderstanding.

Oh, and yes. FIFA wins in this case- its still editable in terms of gameplay and sliders meant a big deal. And yes, they are overpriced too which can be deal breaking. Games shouldn't exceed $60.

Maybe its for buying more license which cost more money? I don't know.

 

[bangus]

Okay, I got it. But you should know that making Ps4 port would have been better and it wouldn't be a much of a problem to port it too.

People on EvoWeb are complaining about the graphics, lighting and cutscenes, that's why they want the PC version to be like the PS4 version. Which is idiotic when the game still feels like robots kicking a rock around. So they're going to be happy if cutscenes are in, when the gameplay is still lousy? Who are they kidding?

 

[bangus]

And yes, they are overpriced too which can be deal breaking. Games shouldn't exceed $60.

See again, these companies are free to charge what they want. And I'm free to buy or not buy. This is my same argument with Konami and why it looks like I'm defending them. I don't defend Konami, I defend free enterprise. They don't owe us $40 games. They don't even owe us good games. If it's good enough and cheap enough for me, I'll buy it, period.

 

[Sami 1999]

People on EvoWeb are complaining about the graphics, lighting and cutscenes, that's why they want the PC version to be like the PS4 version. Which is idiotic when the game still feels like robots kicking a rock around. So they're going to be happy if cutscenes are in, when the gameplay is still lousy? Who are they kidding?

Not everyone has same opinion mate. Maybe they liked the gameplay of PES 15 [Because of different taste ofcourse]. So I don't see problem in asking for good graphics, cutscenes. How's it even idiotic?

Like I said, it may seem idiotic in your point of view. But not everyone's like you. To me, both gameplay and graphics are important. It's not 1998 anymore. Or we can just stick with our Ps1/2 or 16 mb GPU. And I know gameplay is more important, so you don't have to preach me about this shit.

Do yourself a favour:

Go to your "xFIFA xx\Game\data\fifarna\lua" and open "settings.lua".

Backup your "settings.lua" file.

Now do the following:

local InitializeSettings = function()
	local as = gSportsRNA
	local settingTable = as:GetTable("Settings")

	-- Force LevelOfDetail - 'high', 'medium', 'low', 'superlow'
	local levelOfDetail = as:GetString(settingTable, "LevelOfDetail") 
	if (levelOfDetail == "") then
		levelOfDetail = "high"
		as:SetString(settingTable, "LevelOfDetail", levelOfDetail)
	end

--	levelOfDetail = "medium"

	-- Set up defaults (high detail)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "DropMipRX3_MipsToDrop", 0)			-- number of mips to drop from RX3 textures
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "DropMipRX3_MinTexDimension", 256)	-- minimum size (here we will ignore the number of mips to drop)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_ScaleReduction", 0)		-- flat shadow dimensions 			(0 is normal, 1 is half, 2 is quarter, 3 is an eigth)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_MaxLights", 0)			-- max number of lights to allow
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "Jumbotron_ScaleReduction", 0)		-- jumbotron render scale reduction 
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "SelfShadow", 1)		
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "SelfShadow_ScaleReduction", 0)		-- selfshadow render scale reduction (0 normal, 1 half, 2 quartered)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_RainDrops", 0)
	if ( EA_PLATFORM_MAC == true ) then
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_AutoExp", 0) -- Turn off autoexposure on MAC (This causes it to use simple exposure)
	else
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_AutoExp", 0)
	end
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Bloom", 0)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_DOF", 0)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Rectilinear", 0)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Vignette", 0)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_ColorCube", 0)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_ColorCubeDepth", 0)
	
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "DepthBufferPrepass", 0)

	as:SetInt(settingTable, "Grass", 0)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "Cloth", 0)
	as:SetFloat(settingTable, "PlayerLodPercentageMultiplier", 0.001)
	as:SetInt(settingTable, "PlayerLodMinimum", 0)

	-- Override..
   	if (levelOfDetail == "medium") then

		as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_ScaleReduction", 1)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_MaxLights", 0)	   
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "Jumbotron_ScaleReduction", 0) 
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "Grass", 0)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "SelfShadow_ScaleReduction", 0)
		as:SetFloat(settingTable, "PlayerLodPercentageMultiplier", 0.001)

	elseif (levelOfDetail == "low" or levelOfDetail == "superlow") then
		-- Downsize Render to texture sizes and detail
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "DropMipRX3_MinTexDimension", 256)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "DropMipRX3_MipsToDrop", 0)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_ScaleReduction", 0)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "FlatShadow_MaxLights", 0) 
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "Jumbotron_ScaleReduction", 0) 
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "SelfShadow", 0)	
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "SelfShadow_ScaleReduction", 0)
		
		-- depth buffer prepass as an optimization might save us some pixel costs - in the case of min spec though, considering the lower resolution in which the game is run, doesn't bring any benefit
		-- we shouldn't need depth buffer as DoF and depth color cube are disabled on min spec
		-- also, no FX needs depth buffer right now
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "DepthBufferPrepass", 0)

		-- Disable grass and cloth
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "Grass", 0)
		-- cloth is enabled for hi lods
		-- in case of performance issues disable cloth and always use tucked jerseys
		--as:SetInt(settingTable, "Cloth", 0)

		-- disable pretty much all PostFX
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_RainDrops", 0)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_AutoExp", 0)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Bloom", 0)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_DOF", 0)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Rectilinear", 0)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_Vignette", 0)	
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_ColorCube", 0)
		as:SetInt(settingTable, "PostFX_ColorCubeDepth", 0)
	
		as:SetFloat(settingTable, "PlayerLodPercentageMultiplier", 0.001)
	end
	
	if (levelOfDetail == "superlow") then
		-- any extra tweaks here..
	end
end
InitializeSettings()
InitializeSettings = nil

Oh, and then turn the game settings to lowest possible.

Go to screen resolution settings from desktop- Advanced settings- List all modes: And see if you can select 320x240 resolution- if you can, then select it. Go to My documents for FIFA xx settings- open "fifasetup.ini"- change resolution to 320x240.

Enjoy your game with having nice gameplay mods with shitty graphics. Cause graphics doesn't matter, only gameplay does.

Also, this will help your FIFA 15 to run smoothly.

 

[paulv2k4]

Well this thread has down hill.! Phew guys, chill pill, take a few.

konami has crappy engine for pes. im always thinking that fox engine not ideal engine for a soccer game.
look at the horrible faces like zombies. look at the player body structures, kit types & goalies.

There is NOTHING wrong with the Fox Engine. Its the team using it that is the problem. An engine doesn't decide whether a game is good or not. An engine only provides the tools for someone else to build something from, unless it was specifically designed for something. The new MGS games use it very very well because the team behind it designed it and are not time constrained like the PES team.

FIFA is no better for "body structures". Everybody is FIFA 15 looks like they've taken a body building course for a year or been starving themselves. The faces have looked like plastic dolls.

 

[Sami 1999]

And no shirt animations in either games. PES 14 do have shirt animations though.

 

[bulkan]

Well this thread has down hill.! Phew guys, chill pill, take a few.



There is NOTHING wrong with the Fox Engine. Its the team using it that is the problem. An engine doesn't decide whether a game is good or not. An engine only provides the tools for someone else to build something from, unless it was specifically designed for something. The new MGS games use it very very well because the team behind it designed it and are not time constrained like the PES team.

FIFA is no better for "body structures". Everybody is FIFA 15 looks like they've taken a body building course for a year or been starving themselves. The faces have looked like plastic dolls.

actually you & me talking about the same point. i think i couldnt tell about what i want.
i know about the potential of fox engine. its a very good engine.
besides of the new mgs games, even old mgs games have great character modeling, animations, lighting, overall good visual presentation & some unique features for mgs series. fox engine is very succesful & ideal for mgs but not good & ideal for a soccer game. or konami team can't use it well, they cant implement the engine into the pes series. maybe both.
as a result, its konami team's fault.

 

[Ranopand]

Bundesliga full license in fifa 16?? Sorry for my english