Fifa 2006 - OckHAM's Gameplay

[gamerguy350]

After playing the game some more I really do think you're going to have to get rid of the new ways the ball bounces and the new lobs.

They stop the CPU from making any through balls as the new bounces bounce too fast and it goes out of play before the player can get to it.

 

[OckHAM]

Ok I'll try to fix this today.

 

[Sundsvall]

i love the new lob...first time i tried it,i got a perfect ball over the cpu players,and to my striker,and he put the head on it,and goal hehe,i love this gameplay

 

[OckHAM]

Updated version (31/12) on my site: a bit more difficult, fixed some problems with CPU long through balls.

 

[gamerguy350]

Latest version is much better.

Good job

One thing though. I've noticed the defence has gotten better, but the computer lacks a good offense.

 

[OckHAM]

Depends on which team are you playing against: this gameplay makes greater the difference between an average player and an excellent player. You can anyway suggest me how you think can be improved the CPU offence strategy.

 

[gamerguy350]

I'm not really sure. I think if they passed it more. Usually for me they have on or two passes and then dribble it into my defender in the middle.

 

[Billy1969]

Don't make it too difficult, the difficult thing in a gameplay mod is making it so that it is balanced for the most potential players possible.

If you want your own perfect custom to size made gameplay, it's better to make it yourself, I did, and my own modified gameplay is very similar to playing Fifa2005, a game I prefer a lot over Fifa06 PES wannabe gameplay, some people hate it though, I love it, but I am well aware that it isn't a balanced gameplay mod for as much players as possible

 

[gamerguy350]

I would but I don't know how.

 

[Billy1969]

Well Ockham, I installed your gameplay patch out of curiosity, and to be honest because it is a part of your 0.9 CEP patch so I said hey let's install it and try it out, and I must indeed agree it is way to easy for me too.

As an example, I trashed Fiorentina with Milan 6-1, and the score could have been a lot higher if at 4-1 I didn't start to play to make goals with the brightest move possible With my gameplay, on the same difficulty setting I beat them with 2 goals difference maximum, and I have to be on my toes for that, often the match ends with a small victory or even a tie or the ocasional defeat.

Another example, against Juventus I often tie or loose, with the occasional victory when I play well now I trashed them 5-0, thanks for coming at San Siro, cya again. Now this put obviously a big smile on my face but I prefer it harder

Some things in your gameplay are a lot better than my mod though, I prefer the ball movement and general feel in yours. And the difference between star teams and players vs normal ones are obvious now. Sometimes a little too obvious even, as when Sheva has the ball now, the defenders will never catch him when he breaks through or runs on the flank. And Henry now = beep beep Road Runner

But my biggest gripe is the speed of the game, it's a lot higher than mine, I slowed it down a lot as I prefer the simulation feel, also my pass speed setting is lower than yours. But then again, that's maybe because I am an old fart and prefer it slower hehe

Of course, as I wrote in a previous post, a gameplay mod is a question of taste, lots of people will think it's just fine. There is however one thing I would absolutely lower and that is the cross assistence setting, it's too high, I almost score every time now with a header, when the ball gets crossed in the 16. (as it was in original Fifa06 gameplay also)

Anyway, good job and if you tweak it a little bit more it will be a very good gameplay mod.

 

[gamerguy350]

Rossoneri can you send me your mod?

[email protected]

 

[OckHAM]

Yep, I tested the gameplay and it was easy enough for my tastes too. For this reason I almost rewrote completely my gameplay restoring many of the original values: I upped a new version on my site, and I would like, Billy, to take a look at your gameplay anyway, and maybe you can segnalate me which valours do you modify to make the cpu playing style more effective. I hope we can collaborate on this point See ya and thanks for the segnalation: if you can test my gameplay and see if it's good enough I'd be very grateful.

 

[Billy1969]

Going to try out your new version tonight.

My modified gameplay isn't really meant for release as I'm sure not many will like it since the pace is so slow (like watching a match on TV, the game is very heavily concentrated in midfield), and it's more of an overall experience, since I modified a lot of players skills in the Italian leagues also (I play 95% of my time Serie A, B or C matches with the odd champions league game) to include more realistic playing (upped Fiorentina, Samp, Udinese, Palermo skills, downed Parma and tweaked Inter, Milan and Juve player per player)

Also I left a lot of crap in the different ini and dat files (comments, tryouts) and I'm constantly changing values in there. If I had to release it I would name it "Fifa2K54ever" Fifa 2005 gameplay for Fifa06, and I know most people didn't like Fifa2005 gameplay so... anyway I still have a lot of work left to tweak it like I would want it should it be upped for release.

 

[gamerguy350]

Alright it's ok because I tired Ockhams latest version and it's brilliant.

 

[OckHAM]

Thanks man: the problem was that a lot of unuseful strings altered the game difficulty, now it's hard again and with the physics innovation I tried to do. I'm quite satisfied now, even if I would like to make it harder, I hope with the help of Billy.

 

[C.Ronaldo77]

Your gameplay si very fantastic, the keeper is intelligent, the game is good too.
Just a thing, I think the game is very too hard, can you turn down the difficulty, please ? :X

 

[OckHAM]

Have you tried to play pro, semi-pro or amateur diff? The difficulty is scaled enough for different levels.

 

[C.Ronaldo77]

I play on semi-pro with your gameplay, and it's very hard ...
There is always 1-1 and the CPU win on shoot down ...
Sometimes I win 2-0 but it's not always, On this moment, I play with the Internationales teams as Spain, Italy, Ivory Coast, Japan, Nederland, South Korea and more ...
Just turn down the difficulty, your gameplay is perfect for me, I love, it's more realist now with it.

 

[Billy1969]

(There's something screwed up with the post reply, quote and edit functions on soccergaming forums atm, so I use the quick reply one.)

Ockham, I have good news and bad news.

First the bad news :

- The keepers are too strong on both long and short ranged shots now, Frey stopped a ton of shots that in RL matches would go in, Dida stopped two incredible close range shots from Toni as he broke through my defense on a counter attack.

- The referee isn't strict enough, I did and recieved a few horrible tackles and not even a yellow card (save from behind which results in yellow or red card)

The good news :

- It is a huuuuge improvement over the first version I tested, game play is more realistic in pace, keepers are far more realistic (save on shots as stated above) as now they will come out more aggresively on counter-attacks, for example, I had Buffon coming out and getting the ball out of the feet of a broken through Inzaghi, as were in the old and regular gameplay I would have scored with my eyes closed.

- Ball feeling is very good, especialy on high balls, very good work!

Now, to illustrate that gameplay is a very subjective thing to change and work on is that some people will find your gameplay too difficult, some people will find your gameplay too easy, and some will find it perfect.

I replayed my Milan - Fiorentina match and at half time it was still 0-0, I was playing in my favorite 4-3-1-2 formation, attacking and Dida saved my ass twice on a Toni and Donadel counter-attack. So I changed my tactic at half time, set my team to neutral, counter-attack and third free man tactic and the match ended with 3-0, one from Gilardino and two from Sheva on counter-attack. But all in all I found it much more realistic than the 6-1 I gave them with your previous version.

Then I was ready for the big job, away at Delle Alpi I came on in the same formation, defensive minded, all on the counter attack tactic, and this is what happened :



I must admit I scored 2 lucky goals but once I adapted my tactic from attacking to counter attack, with my modified values for Sheva and Pipo I was trashing them again. Now, for me it is still too easy but for example Crisronaldo asks for a more easier gameplay, this to illustrate that no gameplay will ever be perfect.

I am now keeping your gameplay as it is very good and I am altering some of your values to my likings, then I will send you the result, just try it out then and tell me what you think. You might even consider making more than one gameplay mod and let the people choose the one they want when installing your CEP

Check your mailbox tomorrow, I will send you the result, and for the next days I have a surprise for you I think you'll like

 

[gamerguy350]

It's brilliant. I just played Chelsea and had a narrow 3-2 victory with an 80th minute goal by Rooney!