[FIFA Immersion Gameplay '13]

[AndreaPirlo21]

AP, I just did a fresh install of Fifa, using only MW 1.8.4 and your db and product.ini it still crashes when I start a CM. It crashes after I choose my team/settings/manager name, right after it shows a loading bar. Is this not happening to anyone else?

I have the same, but not only with this one. I think it's just MW 1.8.4's bug... Hopefully they fix it soon.

 

[Loki11]

Yep, looks like you're right! Just tried it without your db and it still crashed. Hope they get that fixed, sorry for blaming your db!

Edit: Here's a fix!

1. Install Fifa 13 (ofcourse)
2. Download 1.8.2 All in One & install it
3. Download & install 1.8.2 > 1.8.4
4. get the i68 Regenerator and generate all the files with the program

http://www.moddingway.com/file/28063.html <- i68 regenerator

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

Yep, looks like you're right! Just tried it without your db and it still crashed. Hope they get that fixed, sorry for blaming your db!

Edit: Here's a fix!

1. Install Fifa 13 (ofcourse)
2. Download 1.8.2 All in One & install it
3. Download & install 1.8.2 > 1.8.4
4. get the i68 Regenerator and generate all the files with the program

http://www.moddingway.com/file/28063.html <- i68 regenerator

Does it work with my db?

 

[Loki11]

Testing it now, for some reason regenerating takes forever on my computer. I'll let you know soon though.

Edit 1: So regenerating everything definitely fixes MW patch 1.8.4 with their 4.0 database. Now I'm going to try it with your database and regenerate everything again, just to be safe.

Edit 2: All done! Regenerating everything makes your database work, too. I'm also using Michael Corleone's CM files without problem (so far). Thanks AP!

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

Testing it now, for some reason regenerating takes forever on my computer. I'll let you know soon though.

Edit 1: So regenerating everything definitely fixes MW patch 1.8.4 with their 4.0 database. Now I'm going to try it with your database and regenerate everything again, just to be safe.

Edit 2: All done! Regenerating everything makes your database work, too. I'm also using Michael Corleone's CM files without problem (so far). Thanks AP!

Thanks for reporting that, bro. Glad it works for you.

 

[fanoflinoa]

Hello AndreaPirlo and everyone.

I just tried the new 2.5 with the 1.8.4 and it seems really good, the player from the opposit side of the action now goes ahead instead of staying 1m away from his defender, also best psitioning and filling spaces from the midfielers.

I noticed that theplayer stats have been raised a little bit.

The thing is i tried the 2.0 CM combined with the files from our sicilian friend and it seems close to real foralmost player, a little bithigh for the popular player, and very very high for the super stars (CR7 at 200M), anyway it's not an issue since the budget are also high for topteams.

I tried with sliders recommended by AP,it's good but i think it may get better with a complete slider set (run frequency, fullback, FTC...), if FifaMonkey see this or if any tester would suggest a complete slider config, i think it may make the gameplay even better thanit already is.

I alsohave a question, what about the 4.0 gameplayezed, is it gonna make the player stats a littlebit different if combined with the Db or its gonna be the same, and if it has anyeffect, is the change recommendable or not?

Anyway, enjoy the realistic version of FIFA13 guys, and thanks again and again AndreaPirlo for your great work.

 

[Fifamonkey2012]

Tested this last night, I think its really well wrapped up (IMHO) Im most deff going to create a fresh profile and a dedicated long term manager career for this once its cleared as a final release. Steady build up balanced attack defend, sliders dont need to be set like Fidels but more balanced so it shows DB is doing allot of work for that.

As regards mention of slider so far ive settled (for now) on these if anyone's interested:

Sprint Speed - 3
Acceleration - 42
Shot Error - 53
Pass Error - 53
Shot Speed - 49
Pass Speed - 42
Injury Frequency - 55
Injury Severity - 52
Goalkeeper Ability - 50
Marking - 55
Run Frequency - 80
Line Height - 40
Line Length - 45
Line Width - 100
Fullback Positioning - 50
First touch - 55

USER POWER BAR - 35

I play 20 min halves and also game speed = slow in settings, full manual & these settings are for both IE CPU & USER

Its all personal pref as always esp speed & running / pas speed I like to lower those for steady play and more tussle with marking for ball passing/getting to ball.

The only issue I have is my profile thats full of all my chants set-up for leagues, custom formations & set pieces just will not work when I switch fidel's product ini with this one (always get the corruption error) but if I use fidel and this DB its ok. So its either I use fidels ini or I have to re do everything again on a new profile. The DB's arent causing the problem but the ini's with profile, I can only assume some values are missing in each and get hard saved with the profile, cant figure out a fix for that.

No biggie, will just have to start fresh profile, but I will wait until this is final of the final of the final

Which reminds me I put a request into EA about saving the bloody custom forms & set pieces and such in its own dedicated file outside of the profile with naming conventions, of course I assume EA will just throw last years into next years as always.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

Tested this last night, I think its really well wrapped up (IMHO) Im most deff going to create a fresh profile and a dedicated long term manager career for this once its cleared as a final release. Steady build up balanced attack defend, sliders dont need to be set like Fidels but more balanced so it shows DB is doing allot of work for that.

As regards mention of slider so far ive settled (for now) on these if anyone's interested:




Its all personal pref as always esp speed & running / pas speed I like to lower those for steady play and more tussle with marking for ball passing/getting to ball.

The only issue I have is my profile thats full of all my chants set-up for leagues, custom formations & set pieces just will not work when I switch fidel's product ini with this one (always get the corruption error) but if I use fidel and this DB its ok. So its either I use fidels ini or I have to re do everything again on a new profile. The DB's arent causing the problem but the ini's with profile, I can only assume some values are missing in each and get hard saved with the profile, cant figure out a fix for that.

No biggie, will just have to start fresh profile, but I will wait until this is final of the final of the final

Which reminds me I put a request into EA about saving the bloody custom forms & set pieces and such in its own dedicated file outside of the profile with naming conventions, of course I assume EA will just throw last years into next years as always.

Thanks for the feed and slider set, bro. The gameplay for 2.5 is finalized. I don't think I'll add anything else until 3.0(next month; I need a break )

Hello AndreaPirlo and everyone.

I just tried the new 2.5 with the 1.8.4 and it seems really good, the player from the opposit side of the action now goes ahead instead of staying 1m away from his defender, also best psitioning and filling spaces from the midfielers.

I noticed that theplayer stats have been raised a little bit.

The thing is i tried the 2.0 CM combined with the files from our sicilian friend and it seems close to real foralmost player, a little bithigh for the popular player, and very very high for the super stars (CR7 at 200M), anyway it's not an issue since the budget are also high for topteams.

I tried with sliders recommended by AP,it's good but i think it may get better with a complete slider set (run frequency, fullback, FTC...), if FifaMonkey see this or if any tester would suggest a complete slider config, i think it may make the gameplay even better thanit already is.

I alsohave a question, what about the 4.0 gameplayezed, is it gonna make the player stats a littlebit different if combined with the Db or its gonna be the same, and if it has anyeffect, is the change recommendable or not?

Anyway, enjoy the realistic version of FIFA13 guys, and thanks again and again AndreaPirlo for your great work.

Okay, thank you for giving me the CM prices. Did you try the set of values I have in the 2.5 rar by default? You can't gameplayze my db; it's either one or the other.

 

[Loki11]

Yes, I agree about the CM prices. They're better than before but still not great.

 

[BaDriMuS]

Tested this last night, I think its really well wrapped up (IMHO) Im most deff going to create a fresh profile and a dedicated long term manager career for this once its cleared as a final release. Steady build up balanced attack defend, sliders dont need to be set like Fidels but more balanced so it shows DB is doing allot of work for that.

As regards mention of slider so far ive settled (for now) on these if anyone's interested:




Its all personal pref as always esp speed & running / pas speed I like to lower those for steady play and more tussle with marking for ball passing/getting to ball.

The only issue I have is my profile thats full of all my chants set-up for leagues, custom formations & set pieces just will not work when I switch fidel's product ini with this one (always get the corruption error) but if I use fidel and this DB its ok. So its either I use fidels ini or I have to re do everything again on a new profile. The DB's arent causing the problem but the ini's with profile, I can only assume some values are missing in each and get hard saved with the profile, cant figure out a fix for that.

No biggie, will just have to start fresh profile, but I will wait until this is final of the final of the final

Which reminds me I put a request into EA about saving the bloody custom forms & set pieces and such in its own dedicated file outside of the profile with naming conventions, of course I assume EA will just throw last years into next years as always.

sliders settings is for user or CPU?? or both?? thanks

 

[Loki11]

AP, I also don't think goalkeeper stamina should be so low. Doing a CM with Bayern and Neuer has a stamina of 9, after 4 games he is really tired and I have to rest him!

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

AP, I also don't think goalkeeper stamina should be so low. Doing a CM with Bayern and Neuer has a stamina of 9, after 4 games he is really tired and I have to rest him!

Okay, I'll see to this. Don't know why he should be so tired because I saw outfield players with 25+ stamina not getting too tired ... and they run the whole game.

 

[fanoflinoa]

Tested this last night, I think its really well wrapped up (IMHO) Im most deff going to create a fresh profile and a dedicated long term manager career for this once its cleared as a final release. Steady build up balanced attack defend, sliders dont need to be set like Fidels but more balanced so it shows DB is doing allot of work for that.

As regards mention of slider so far ive settled (for now) on these if anyone's interested:




Its all personal pref as always esp speed & running / pas speed I like to lower those for steady play and more tussle with marking for ball passing/getting to ball.

The only issue I have is my profile thats full of all my chants set-up for leagues, custom formations & set pieces just will not work when I switch fidel's product ini with this one (always get the corruption error) but if I use fidel and this DB its ok. So its either I use fidels ini or I have to re do everything again on a new profile. The DB's arent causing the problem but the ini's with profile, I can only assume some values are missing in each and get hard saved with the profile, cant figure out a fix for that.

No biggie, will just have to start fresh profile, but I will wait until this is final of the final of the final

Which reminds me I put a request into EA about saving the bloody custom forms & set pieces and such in its own dedicated file outside of the profile with naming conventions, of course I assume EA will just throw last years into next years as always.

Thanks for the sliders FifaMonkey, i knew you were the specialist for this, a little question, are this sliders for 10min halves or 20(i prefer 10 it gave a long match but not too long), and i assumme that we should put slow gameplay in the option even if i don't see the difference.

Anyway, thanks for your sliders, i will give them a try tonight with 10min international, wille give my feedback, tomorrow.

Okay, thank you for giving me the CM prices. Did you try the set of values I have in the 2.5 rar by default? You can't gameplayze my db; it's either one or the other.

Yes, it's the 2.5 values that i tried cimbined with the other files from Corleone.

As i said it's good and make the thing pretty realistic, i took Kakà for 20M, Shurrle for 30M so it's good, popular player like Ozil costs a bit higher, wich make the thing more realistic, also the fact that top teams laways have a big budjet and a very huge one past the first season.

Also what do you think of the sliders suggested by FifaMonkey?

Goodnight everyone.

 

[Fifamonkey2012]

Thanks for the sliders FifaMonkey, i knew you were the specialist for this, a little question, are this sliders for 10min halves or 20(i prefer 10 it gave a long match but not too long), and i assumme that we should put slow gameplay in the option even if i don't see the difference.

Anyway, thanks for your sliders, i will give them a try tonight with 10min international, wille give my feedback, tomorrow.

Nothing too specialist mate, just someone like many here wanting to get a better experience by trial and error, its all subjective and personal preference

Sorry I play 20 min halves and also game speed = slow in settings, full manual & these settings are for both IE CPU & USER, but, if you play all team speed and running may have to be tweaked to how you "feel" the game. Ive been used to FIDELS DB and liked it massively and his latest ini so its not perfect to do but I kind of draw my expectants and habits from playing his and play this DB and settings to compare, and they are so very close now but with one massive bonus and thats this is all based on latest transfers & MW team additions and DB whereas Fidels has never had updates and the other more specific player attribute focus of this DB.

I base most things on 20 min halves and testing scoring both me & CPU and then AI v AI until I get a good balance where its not like EA vanilla 60 goals in 1 min I exaggerate obviously. Just balance up marking and errors if you want things to be more score based for shorter times. My personal focus is obviously Ai positioning and things and flow of game and game speed, but also scoring in games, I always feel "EA vanilla" when goals seem to be hammered home very early on. It still happens, but now you might g et a flurry of attempts, a goal in early and a big gap of attempts and a rush near end of second half, which some say is boring, but to me the drama is better when a game has those lull's and right up to 80 mins it can go either way (or turn around sometimes). Then again, sometimes you just get your ass served to you and thats just how you played.

Also I haven't touched GK sliders on this yet, I assumed GK values were added? I left it off to test but need a bit more time.

What im going to do is use Fidels DB and latest ini for existing be a pro careers (posted sliders in that thread for that DB ) and use this DB/ini & CM tweaks for a bran new long term manager career playing as all or locking to player, that's seems to be the best focus for each for me.

BTW Im always interested in other peoples findings, I just dont see many people talk about sliders much or post them

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

Yes, it's the 2.5 values that i tried cimbined with the other files from Corleone.

As i said it's good and make the thing pretty realistic, i took Kakà for 20M, Shurrle for 30M so it's good, popular player like Ozil costs a bit higher, wich make the thing more realistic, also the fact that top teams laways have a big budjet and a very huge one past the first season.

Also what do you think of the sliders suggested by FifaMonkey?

Goodnight everyone.

Okay, I'll upload a fix with the gk stamina and the cm values later today. FifaMonkey2012's sliders seem very good, although it's all personal preference and something everyone can tweak to their tastes.

 

[Fifamonkey2012]

Okay, I'll upload a fix with the gk stamina and the cm values later today.

*goes to start career ... violently moves controller away from menu option * ....

FifaMonkey2012's sliders seem very good, although it's all personal preference and something everyone can tweak to their tastes.

Yep exactly.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

FIX uploaded

Here is the fix. I'm not sure about the CM tweaks, but they should be lower for superstars. http://www.mediafire.com/?sdh6du4h99syged

 

[Loki11]

Values seem much better in the fix! Wages still aren't great (Ronaldo on 220k, Falcao on 15k, RVP on 45k, Vidic on 5k), they seem a bit random. But at this point I think I'm being a bit nitpicky and maybe there isn't much more you can do about the wages?

Edit: I think the main problem with the wages is how different they are from the transfer values. Playing as Marseille I have a 9.5m transfer budget and 20k wage budget left. So I have the transfer budget left for one first-team quality player but my wage budget could handle AT LEAST 5 first-team quality players because most players in my 7m-9m price range are on 3k-5k. The disparity is confusing from a gameplay perspective.

 

[AndreaPirlo21]

Values seem much better in the fix! Wages still aren't great (Ronaldo on 220k, Falcao on 15k, RVP on 45k, Vidic on 5k), they seem a bit random. But at this point I think I'm being a bit nitpicky and maybe there isn't much more you can do about the wages?

Edit: I think the main problem with the wages is how different they are from the transfer values. Playing as Marseille I have a 9.5m transfer budget and 20k wage budget left. So I have the transfer budget left for one first-team quality player but my wage budget could handle AT LEAST 5 first-team quality players because most players in my 7m-9m price range are on 3k-5k. The disparity is confusing from a gameplay perspective.

I can fix the wages but I am not sure how to change the wage budgets. Try Michael Corleone's playerwages.ini for now. His seemed to be more accurate.

 

[Fifamonkey2012]

I checked his thread and looked through but didn't see any download to that ini, did I miss something?

BTW .. im looking to kick start a career, so, is this now the officially official final of the final?