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[FIFA Immersion Gameplay '13]
- Thread starter AndreaPirlo21
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AndreaPirlo21
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Waldo1639;3471161 said:
Hmmm. It's hard to get the mid field to come back due to EA's programming. Once you're in the box, they just give up.
True, but I thought you did a pretty good job of that with your gp mod. The CPU comes back much deeper with your mod than with default FIFA gameplay. Anyway, IMO this is one of the worst aspects of the default game. It's unrealistic that the CPU rarely sends more than 4 players back into its box to defend. It turns the game into an offense-oriented arcade game. But it's an intentional game design decision: EA knows most gamers buy FIFA to play as Messi and Ronaldo and score lots of goals and aren't interested in simulation football.AndreaPirlo21;3471197 said:
I took a screen of the Bayern-Barca match last night. Look at all the players in the box (screen 1). That's how the default game should play but it doesn't. The game is able to reproduce that degree of defensive committment, but it takes a lot of editing (screen 2). It's essentially fixing the non-existent CPU defensive gameplay by making sure more CPU bodies come back to their box to block the passing and shooting lanes.
torpedo007
Youth Team
AP, could you send me the db for testing? Need to know if the major flaws have been fixed. I know you won't disappoint.
BTW, another major issue I have with player positioning has to do with the positioning of defensive players on my team. Even with player and team settings and strategies set to max attack, my defenders will never join the attack. They'll stand back at the midfield line and on my side of the pitch (screen 1). Because of that, I'm left to attack the CPU with only half my team. This is one of the main reasons why the goal scorers in FIFA are almost always FWs and AMFs.
To fix that, I created a base formation for my team using only MFs, AMFs and FWs. This is my default attack formation, and I switch into it when I'm pushing to score a goal. You can see (screen 2) that my back line of defenders now pushes much further up the pitch, which then gives me many more passing and shooting options. It's also much more realistic from a real-life football perspective. The downside is I can't stay in this formation forever because the CPU reads that my defenders are in a vulnerable counter-attack position, and will then send long passes up to their FWs. So what I've done is create a variety of formations I can switch to that are by degrees less and less attack-oriented, which I use depending on the game circumstances.
To fix that, I created a base formation for my team using only MFs, AMFs and FWs. This is my default attack formation, and I switch into it when I'm pushing to score a goal. You can see (screen 2) that my back line of defenders now pushes much further up the pitch, which then gives me many more passing and shooting options. It's also much more realistic from a real-life football perspective. The downside is I can't stay in this formation forever because the CPU reads that my defenders are in a vulnerable counter-attack position, and will then send long passes up to their FWs. So what I've done is create a variety of formations I can switch to that are by degrees less and less attack-oriented, which I use depending on the game circumstances.
AndreaPirlo21
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bangus;3473069 said:BTW, another major issue I have with player positioning has to do with the positioning of defensive players on my team. Even with player and team settings and strategies set to max attack, my defenders will never join the attack. They'll stand back at the midfield line and on my side of the pitch (screen 1). Because of that, I'm left to attack the CPU with only half my team. This is one of the main reasons why the goal scorers in FIFA are almost always FWs and AMFs.
To fix that, I created a base formation for my team using only MFs, AMFs and FWs. This is my default attack formation, and I switch into it when I'm pushing to score a goal. You can see (screen 2) that my back line of defenders now pushes much further up the pitch, which then gives me many more passing and shooting options. It's also much more realistic from a real-life football perspective. The downside is I can't stay in this formation forever because the CPU reads that my defenders are in a vulnerable counter-attack position, and will then send long passes up to their FWs. So what I've done is create a variety of formations I can switch to that are by degrees less and less attack-oriented, which I use depending on the game circumstances.
I sent a pm asking if you wanted to test. One of the latest versions has a more balanced attack at the expense of some defense. I'm still working on the issue Waldo1639 mentioned.
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torpedo007;3472408 said:
The flaws my testers mentioned aren't solved completely yet. I'll send it to you when ready.
AndreaPirlo21
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Loki11;3473871 said:
Not yet. After I finalize the db, I'll make the tweaks.
AndreaPirlo21
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gabi1;3474381 said:
I lowered acceleration because all players reached top speed too quickly.
AndreaPirlo21
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I finally got the defense as in the pre release and maybe slightly better! Can anyone test this weekend?
AndreaPirlo21
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Waldo1639;3474745 said:I can
Okay, sending soon.. Unfortunately, the player positioning is too free form...
torpedo007
Youth Team
I could test mate. Btw, tighter marking with the distance between an attacker and a defender reduced?
AndreaPirlo21
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torpedo007;3474860 said:
In some cases, I can't get the defender to be on straps with him unless I ruin his positioning. The defenders follow their marks everywhere if the difference between interceptions and marking is too high. Also, if the offense of the opponent has only two players in the box, there will only be around 4-5 defenders in there. I can't seem to fix this issue.
torpedo007
Youth Team
Did you try messing with the line-sliders? Success comes with sacrifice or so I hear. So, decreasing the line length a little bit will do it.
And, let me mess with the product and get back to you soon. And, what about the drop kicks? Only some vary their kicks. Damn!
And, let me mess with the product and get back to you soon. And, what about the drop kicks? Only some vary their kicks. Damn!
AndreaPirlo21;3474408 said:
The problem was the sliders i have, the sprint/acc speed were too low and that was making things unrealistic. With the default sliders the problem is gone so i just need to adjust the sliders a little bet to decrease the game speed without making the players feel sluggish.
Anyways the game feels great with with this mod, can't wait for the latest release.
AndreaPirlo21
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I haven't tweaked sliders yet. All my work is on the db and defaultt sliders.torpedo007;3474924 said:
AndreaPirlo21
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Thanks, man.gabi1;3475060 said:
