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FIFA is going nowhere

TheDarkKnight87

Club Supporter
I love the FIFA series it's the first and only football game i played and enjoyed. I played hundreds of hours of FIFA RTWC:98. I played over a thousand hours of FIFA 99. I loved FIFA 2000. I didn't really play 2001 because it was not my style. I played FIFA 2002 for hundreds of hours and i still play it. I went to the WCG qualifications for FIFA WC: 2002. My point is i have played a lot of FIFA in my life. Why oh why do you guys at EA **** up so badly sometimes. Once and for all Better graphics < Better gameplay :rolleyes:
What did you have to do for FIFA 2003?
1. Iron out the GK bugs.
2. A couple more dribblings.
3. The FIFA 2003 direct free kick system.
4. The crossing system of FIFA 2003
5. Better player control. Implement a bit of what you put in FIFA 2003.
It would have been close to perfect.
Instead, what do we get?
1. Maximum two dribblings per player. Although hard to do.
2. A heading system that sucks.
3. A free kick system that except for the direct free kicks sucks.
4. Players who take forever to shoot while sprinting.
5. Where the feck have you seen football played without curling balls? Why did you take it out for Heaven's sake?
6. Two different passing systems which have major bugs. For example, i pass straight into space, but the player doesn't run toward the ball. Now i only have the ability to pass straight. That's not very realistic :rolleyes:
7. A player fitness system with a huge bug. When you sprint, and you lose the ball, the player you sprinted with won't recover his condition unless selected. (If you sprint with Crespo, lose the ball and try to win it back with Davids, the next time you select Crespo he'll have the same low fitness level as before).

IMHO a combination between FIFA 99's and WC 2002's shooting system would be perfect.
8. The control of the players leaves a lot to be desired.
9. I didn't include the sprint problem in my original post because i had that unoficial patch. But it's a big problem. If the players have skills they why aren't they taken into account. Are we to believe that the skills are there just for decoration?
10. What about the awful research EA does? Chivu for example is one of the best defenders in the world(not my opinion, that of several people from clubs like Real, Juve etc) and in the game he has 65....
EA, this forum is for suggestions and constructive criticism among other things. Let me give you a bit of advice:
Football is not football without dribblings.
Football is not football without curling shots and passes.
Football is not football without the ability to head the ball unless someone is next to you.
Football is not football when you pass to a player, but that player doesn't get selected and passes 10 cm by the ball and doesn't pick it up.
I hope the next game in the series will be AN IMPROVEMENT :rolleyes:
 

willem

Reserve Team
You now described the game's bad points, but don't forget it has also his good points. Play Fifa 2002 and Fifa 2003 and you will see that the FIFA series maked a big step forwards.
 
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Acidtrip

Guest
Originally posted by TheDarkKnight87
Errrrr...... where did i say i can't win a game? :rolleyes:
Actually i win on world class. That's not the issue.

Yea Im sure you win in world class, liar.
 

the_man

Manager
I don't play FIFA but I wouldn't say that it is going no where. It's made steps in the right direction especially with this realease, after 2 years we would be able to tell if it is growing or just back in pattern after fifa98
 

nickclubman

Starting XI
Originally posted by the_man
I don't play FIFA but I wouldn't say that it is going no where. It's made steps in the right direction especially with this realease, after 2 years we would be able to tell if it is growing or just back in pattern after fifa98

true, true. I'm sure EA will have double the time for FIFA Football 2004 and I bet it will be better then 2003, well, I hope so, but they need to iron out the bugs and NOT create new evil ones, little ones are okay, VERY little things, nothing that ruins the animations or AI though, maybe a goalkeeper thing like in PES2. This is basically where the ball is moving at slug pace near the line and the keeper does a super dive and gives you a corner, lol, totally mental but acceptable in every way, as it's something SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO small in comparison to some of the terrible bugs in 2003...FIFA 2003 still manages to be enjoyable though and that's very important.

Nick Clubman
 

johnnydepp

Red Card - Life [Repeated Abuse]
Life Ban
yeah if ea keeps going like this they are going down....

but Ive discovered some great thing in this fifa the ball has life

now : ) its starting to act like a real ball probably fifa 2010 will be

a superb game if they keep on programming like this...
 

rado907

Youth Team
Its going somewhere but...

I got some stupid GBA game... Winning Eleven 2002. In Japanese.

And it has better gameplay that Fifa! For christ sakes people!

Fifa 2k4 maybe.
 

TheDarkKnight87

Club Supporter
Originally posted by Acidtrip
Yea Im sure you win in world class, liar.
WTF does this have do to with my original post you idiot? :rolleyes:
FFS, if i say i win on World Class then i do. I don't really give a flying fvck what you think but since you don't know Carlos sh!t about me i'd advise you to STFU and stop talking out of yer arse.
It's people like you that give Americans a bad name.
 

Daniel Jones

Youth Team
I agree with most of your points. The airplay in FIFA 2003 is simply horrible. 2002 wasn't spectacular but they should have left in the curling shots and passes among other things. Defensive AI is lackluster as well.
 

T-101

Club Supporter
I myself haven't played the game and got to know it to start bitching to this extent. However i come to believe this is the best soccer game yet, why? the graphics are awesome and realism of players. So what the graphics you ask, but the playability is great to I just spent a whole night playing it due to the fun of the game and challenge its presented. Sure there are things it could do with, but i'm satisfied so far with it. :p
 

Ethereal

Youth Team
well for me fifa 2003 is the best football video game ever man...:rockman:
i like the 2001 and 2000 but this one is completely different...way best!!!!

p.s. fifa 2002 sucks!!!worst game of the fifa series:kader:

p.s.2. the airplay rules!!!finaly a different and difficult one!!!not like the other simply and silly ones (press one buton , one more ...goal...SOOOO BORED!)

p.s.3 : gameplay and graphics+atmosphere is a 10+
 

nickclubman

Starting XI
Originally posted by Ethereal
well for me fifa 2003 is the best football video game ever man...:rockman:
i like the 2001 and 2000 but this one is completely different...way best!!!!

p.s. fifa 2002 sucks!!!worst game of the fifa series:kader:

p.s.2. the airplay rules!!!finaly a different and difficult one!!!not like the other simply and silly ones (press one buton , one more ...goal...SOOOO BORED!)

p.s.3 : gameplay and graphics+atmosphere is a 10+

Th heading system still needs a lot of work, they could have used the 2002 FIFA World Cup one and just got rid of the supa' headers and made it so you need timing more and the players' attributes factor more! :)

But no, we get impossible headers, which only the AI can do half the time!! :f***:

Nick Clubman.
 

Ophidius

Club Supporter
They completely reworked the physics engine when they made FIFA 2003. When a developer does that, there are bound to be a couple of nagging bugs. The only one that drives me nuts is that one where when your player misses a pass, everyone waits for him to get it. Seriously though, the new engine is fantastic and this is the "guinea pig" game for it. Its only uphill from here.
 

mohawk

Senior Squad
I totally disagree...EA are on a winner with Fifa2003...it has THE best gameplay of the Fifa series....

Fifa98 waz great for its time....proceeding Fifa's sucked like no games have sucked...EA saw how PES waz taking its market share and they seemed to have reacted correctly and built a game more close to football and alot more distant from the proceeding Fifa games....seeing that u seem to love Fifa2002 etc. I can understand why u hate Fifa2003 so much. Do yourself a favour mate and have a couple of sessions of PES and play Fifa2003 and then u might know why EA are on the right track with this franchise.:crazyboy:
 

valioso

Fan Favourite
yes the heading system has a couple of bugs, like not being able to head when you're by yourself.. but i think is the best heading system fifa has had. you dont win every header, and thats the way it should be
 

shokz

The Red Devil
Originally posted by TheDarkKnight87
WTF does this have do to with my original post you idiot? :rolleyes:
FFS, if i say i win on World Class then i do. I don't really give a flying fvck what you think but since you don't know Carlos sh!t about me i'd advise you to STFU and stop talking out of yer arse.
It's people like you that give Americans a bad name.

LOL, Americans always talk out their arse's. I'll give you that one :D
 

som3a

Youth Team
Well, i don`t know PES. But i`ve played WE2002 and it really rocks and the gameplay is much much better than FIFA2003. I`ve mentioned a dozen of frustrating things about FIFA2003 but i`d also like to add this...like the Darkknight said, why does it take so long for a player to shoot while he`s running?

To cut it short...i think this game is excellent for people who are only looking for an arcade style football game...people who don`t really care about realism as long the fun is there. But as for people who want a simulation (like me)...people who watch the stars of the game week in week out, this game still sucks.
 


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