FIFA Manager 2022 - Released!

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tomekthemessenger

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@Dmitri
I converted fifa22 database to fifa15 database with the aid od C++ code. So I have some skills which allow to convert something to something else. Why it is not possible to convert fifa 14-15 database to for example fm08/09 database? What problem do You see? I would like to try to convert part of your patch (teams squads) to fm 08 or 09 - so taking from fm14/15 country .sav players, deleting existed players in fm08 .sav, probably do some years modification -7 (datebirth -7years, dates of transfers, end of contracts -7 years) during procedure of moving of players. It seems like easy task, just before it is need to understand the format of .sav in order being to able replace players for teams. So I suppose finally there will be database with about 80% of players from season 21/22 and 20% of default players from fm08/09 because probably there are some teams in fm08/09 which don't exist in fm14/15 so there are no players for replacement.
Then after such work next step is to manual moving in database editor clubs from one league to another. Probably RB Leipzig doesn't exist in fm08/09 so such team won't be in game but who cares that.:)
I don't know if Montenegro exist in fm08/09 so here again who cares that.
Everybody will be happy even without RB Leipzig, without Montenegro, without new kits. There might be still Intertoto cup, old system of European League, the most important fact is that 80% of squads around the world will be updated and this still should be fun for users.
FM 08 and FM 09 has advantage over fm 14/15 that You can control one player (be manager and player) and it is nice feature. In FM10 there is also such feature but control of player is very buggy, so fm 08 and 09 are the last managers where this feature works in well way.
If You see some reason why the above cannot be done please write.
 
Dmitri

Dmitri

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tomekthemessenger said:
Why it is not possible to convert fifa 14-15 database to for example fm08/09 database?
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I didn't say it's not possible. I created FIFA > FIFA Manager db converter many years ago, but the problem with FIFA database, is that it has a limited number of leagues and players.
Mainly European and American teams. No Asia, Africa and Oceania.
There are no reserve teams, no youth teams, no coaching stuff, no referees etc.
So, converting Football Manager db where all these things are present, was the priority.

Also, you're thinking in a very limited way in terms of modding the game and the database.
We reached the level where we can change the starting year (so no need to manipulate dates), completely clear the database and create new clubs and players from 'zero' (no need to synchronize clubs in new and old db), add new competitions (UEFA Conference League) and remove old ones (FIFA Confederations Cup), replace countries (Kosovo and New Caledonia were added).
And we even added the ability to control players with the keyboard, but yes, it's very buggy and I think it always was.
 
IidaMods2K1

IidaMods2K1

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Dmitri said:
I didn't say it's not possible. I created FIFA > FIFA Manager db converter many years ago, but the problem with FIFA database, is that it has a limited number of leagues and players.
Mainly European and American teams. No Asia, Africa and Oceania.
There are no reserve teams, no youth teams, no coaching stuff, no referees etc.
So, converting Football Manager db where all these things are present, was the priority.

Also, you're thinking in a very limited way in terms of modding the game and the database.
We reached the level where we can change the starting year (so no need to manipulate dates), completely clear the database and create new clubs and players from 'zero' (no need to synchronize clubs in new and old db), add new competitions (UEFA Conference League) and remove old ones (FIFA Confederations Cup), replace countries (Kosovo and New Caledonia were added).
And we even added the ability to control players with the keyboard, but yes, it's very buggy and I think it always was.
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Any chance for Retro FIFA Manager mods? example: FIFA Manager 1997 (these are some 1996-97 patches for PES like the Spanish league by VintagePES)
 
Dmitri

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IidaMods2K1 said:
Any chance for Retro FIFA Manager mods? example: FIFA Manager 1997 (these are some 1996-97 patches for PES like the Spanish league by VintagePES)
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Not from me.
I think converting from PES is a bad idea, a lot of information is missed.
FIFA Manager must include a lot of player/club details and also statistics.
 
GabiMate7

GabiMate7

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This mod is absolutely insane, the game runs perfectly, i have absolutely no problem, but every time i restart my pc, my save files stop working for some reason. Is there any way to fix this?
 

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tomekthemessenger

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I was thinking about update fifa manager 08, I got familiar with database Country.sav files and I think it is possible to update database from fifa manager 14 season patch 22. I just need to implement some simple C++ tool which will convert fm14 format to fm08, probably there will be also some mapping of parameters. Cups from script directory won't be touched, datebirth of players will be decreased so for example Ronaldo in season 2008 will have 38 years. This is what probably I am able to do, the more is too difficult for me. I did similar thing when converting fifa22 database to fifa15 one. However there is none sense to play fm08 if pitch is such awful:
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So firstly I put focus on updating pitch and research if it is possible at all to have patterns on the pitch. This is base thing which needs to be improved!
I found in zdata_25.big and zdata_26.big some files which are probably responsible for pitch pattern:
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however I don't know how to export images from fsh and then import back. fshtool is too complex for me, there is none instruction. eagraph doesn't work, match don't want to load when I exchange image in eagraph. fshEd probably doesn't work as after image update I have 7 mipmaps instead of 8:
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Could anybody help with exchanging image in fsh file? Does anybody has experience in something like that? In c++ I can write anything but when I have to use some thirdy party tools I have alwyas big problems.

Why to update fm08? Because we can play on the pitch with manager and this is great feature. In fm09 controling player is worse and completely buggy in fm10. So fm08 is the last one fifa manager version where control of player works smoothly.
 
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tomekthemessenger

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OK I got familiar with fsh tool and exchanged images correctly but the match don't want to load so it is not possible to have patterns in Fifa manager 08 in the pitch so I won't do conversion of database.
 
Dmitri

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tomekthemessenger said:
I was thinking about update fifa manager 08, I got familiar with database Country.sav files and I think it is possible to update database from fifa manager 14 season patch 22. I just need to implement some simple C++ tool which will convert fm14 format to fm08, probably there will be also some mapping of parameters. Cups from script directory won't be touched, datebirth of players will be decreased so for example Ronaldo in season 2008 will have 38 years. This is what probably I am able to do, the more is too difficult for me. I did similar thing when converting fifa22 database to fifa15 one. However there is none sense to play fm08 if pitch is such awful:
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We already have a plugin for FIFA Manager 08 where you can change the starting season.
fifam.miraheze.org

TheSeason.asi - FIFA Manager Modding Wiki

TheSeason plugin gives an ability to change the start season date and has some other minor options - increased initial capital limit for clubs, increased maximal...
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tomekthemessenger said:
Why to update fm08? Because we can play on the pitch with manager and this is great feature. In fm09 controling player is worse and completely buggy in fm10. So fm08 is the last one fifa manager version where control of player works smoothly.
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We also added TeamControl (full control of the team with gamepad/keyboard) feature in FM 13/14 patch.

PS FM 23 was released, I will create a new thread soon.
 
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tomekthemessenger

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@Dmitri
1.) do You know how to make patterns in fifa manager 08 pitch?
2.) Does script studio do some parameters conversion between fifa manager 14 and other fifa versions? Example below. In fifa manager 14 there are 449 faces. In fifa manager 08 there is less number of faces. So probably some values conversion is needed. Does script studio support this one or the tool just rewrite face id without any conversion to fifa manager 08 database?
So if I want to design tool for database conversion my first step should be to do mapping for each parameter value in fifa manager 14 to the most suit value in fifa manager 08.
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Dmitri

Dmitri

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tomekthemessenger said:
@Dmitri
1.) do You know how to make patterns in fifa manager 08 pitch?
2.) Does script studio do some parameters conversion between fifa manager 14 and other fifa versions? Example below. In fifa manager 14 there are 449 faces. In fifa manager 08 there is less number of faces. So probably some values conversion is needed. Does script studio support this one or the tool just rewrite face id without any conversion to fifa manager 08 database?
So if I want to design tool for database conversion my first step should be to do mapping for each parameter value in fifa manager 14 to the most suit value in fifa manager 08.
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Maybe this will help https://fifam.miraheze.org/wiki/3D_Pitch_Customization
ScriptStudio is a tool for writing scripts, it doesn't convert databases.
 
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