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[FIFA12] - PATCHES and MODS by Doctor+ Productions (Fidel Gameplay)

vitalik

Youth Team
TP83;3280651 said:
Vitalik..NOW...you think that is more real... Fidel's Gameplay o Regular's Cat Gameplay?

If Fidel decrease a referee strictness in Evo 6.0 I think now it's the most perfect gameplay...
To my mind the problem in Regularcat's gameplay is the unreal score after each game (5-4, 8-5, 4-7). AI isn't playing in the centre of field. Every time when AI take a ball the AI players make a few passes and score a goal. Every second shot by AI is a goal... In Fidel gameplay players are more smart. They are passing a few minutes, more dribbling, more shooting like in a real life. And you have more chances to intercept the ball and score a goal...
 

TP83

Club Supporter
vitalik

vitalik;3280666 said:
If Fidel decrease a referee strictness in Evo 6.0 I think now it's the most perfect gameplay...
To my mind the problem in Regularcat's gameplay is the unreal score after each game (5-4, 8-5, 4-7). AI isn't playing in the centre of field. Every time when AI take a ball the AI players make a few passes and score a goal. Every second shot by AI is a goal... In Fidel gameplay players are more smart. They are passing a few minutes, more dribbling, more shooting like in a real life. And you have more chances to intercept the ball and score a goal...

Yes...I understand. but about how to pass, kick ... movements of the players? Who is more real?
 

TP83

Club Supporter
Fidel...I have to remove "gpattributemodifiers" (regular's cat gp) in the dlc_FootballCompEng or not change nothing? is indifferent? thx
 

bangus

Starting XI
6.4 is the very best yet Fidel, great work. I love the added chants, very noticable in the smaller stadiums. Love the slower play buildup as well along with the extra CPU fouls and cards, fantastic work there. I'll be keeping and using this one for a long time as I won't be buying FIFA 13 after hearing the default gameplay AI is unchanged. Your gameplay patch is perfect for me. You've managed to make the FIFA series look and play like REAL football, something the FIFA devs seem incapable of.
 

bangus

Starting XI
painkiller77;3281073 said:
how to reduce referes strickness? thanx
Worst aspect of the default gameplay -- no cards and fouls -- and now you say there's too much of that? Fidel in fact fixed the problem.
 

777

Club Supporter
Thanks for great patch, but i have some questions, first which sliders i must use,is it updated? and i have installed regularcat's patch do i need to delete his files?
 

pedalstarosta

Club Supporter
bangus;3281255 said:
Worst aspect of the default gameplay -- no cards and fouls -- and now you say there's too much of that? Fidel in fact fixed the problem.

Yeah, we all want more realism, and because of this, more cards too. But with newest Fidel's patch it's just like changes have gone too far. In one single game e.g. I've got 3 red cards, every one of them because of two yellow cards. Excluding this, I've got also 8 another yellow cards and the best thing is, I haven't made one single sliding tackle. Every card I got after only pulling of the shirt of another player. This is what we are meaning of.
 

rednone

Club Supporter
Aye, having same matches with 8~ yellow cards aswell and a few reds, the ref even booked the poor Rooney cause i tackled him (lol).
 

vitalik

Youth Team
Fidel, please decrease a little bit referee strictness and upload new version of Evo 6.0! It's not good - in every match 6-8 yellow cards and a few reds... Everything is perfect but referees are monsters :)
Big thanks for your work!!!
 

bangus

Starting XI
pedalstarosta;3281338 said:
Yeah, we all want more realism, and because of this, more cards too. But with newest Fidel's patch it's just like changes have gone too far. In one single game e.g. I've got 3 red cards, every one of them because of two yellow cards. Excluding this, I've got also 8 another yellow cards and the best thing is, I haven't made one single sliding tackle. Every card I got after only pulling of the shirt of another player. This is what we are meaning of.
Don't tackle so much? :innocent_smile_1:

Suggestion: Open up Fidel's new ini file and place it side-by-side with his last one. Scroll down and find the "card" modifiers and take note of any changes he made. Then make your own tweaks and test them out. That's what I do.
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
hello to everyone, thanks for comment!
you must understand that everything is different.
you must understand that now all is different.
in real football you have to try to contain and not only aggressive pressing.
if you're behind the player with the ball, only with best defender you take the ball without foul.
now you must be patient, wait for the right time/moment/situation, right direction, right player to take the ball.
repeated pressing/push is a foul, intentional push aggressive without any chance to catch the ball is a foul and card and it depend on the aggression.
if you know what to do you will not be shown the yellow/red card or foul.
but the great thing is that if you can be patient, this also applies to the cpu when defend.
is sufficient to understand the new gameplay and no problem with referees.
However, I will try to satisfy all but remember that for advanced players this is real football (GP EVO 6).

Fidel's Current Sliders Settings
User/AI
Sprint Speed - 40
Acceleration - 45
Shot Error - 55
Pass Error - 55
Shot Speed - 48
Pass Speed - 40
Injury Frequency - 60
Injury Severity - 55
Goalkeeper Ability - 50
Marking - 75
Run Frequency - 50
Line Height - 50
Line Length - 50
Line Width - 50
Fullback Positioning - 50
Power Bar - 35

For others info read the info document.

Bye
Fidel. Doctor+ Productions
 

TP83

Club Supporter
Fidel Gameplay;3281380 said:
hello to everyone, thanks for comment!
you must understand that everything is different.
you must understand that now all is different.
in real football you have to try to contain and not only aggressive pressing.
if you're behind the player with the ball, only with best defender you take the ball without foul.
now you must be patient, wait for the right time/moment/situation, right direction, right player to take the ball.
repeated pressing/push is a foul, intentional push aggressive without any chance to catch the ball is a foul and card and it depend on the aggression.
if you know what to do you will not be shown the yellow/red card or foul.
but the great thing is that if you can be patient, this also applies to the cpu when defend.
is sufficient to understand the new gameplay and no problem with referees.
However, I will try to satisfy all but remember that for advanced players this is real football (GP EVO 6).

Fidel's Current Sliders Settings
User/AI
Sprint Speed - 40
Acceleration - 45
Shot Error - 55
Pass Error - 55
Shot Speed - 48
Pass Speed - 40
Injury Frequency - 60
Injury Severity - 55
Goalkeeper Ability - 50
Marking - 75
Run Frequency - 50
Line Height - 50
Line Length - 50
Line Width - 50
Fullback Positioning - 50
Power Bar - 35

For others info read the info document.

Bye
Fidel. Doctor+ Productions


however Fidel...I have played with all sliders at 50 and the game is very real. but the TEST has made with default sliders at 50 or with your setting sliders?
Other players what you think?
 

dan2690

Club Supporter
Hi fidel i really want to use your latest gameplay but have a problem after installing and loading game up the game crashes to desktop at the tutorial stage. Could you or anyone else help me with this thanks
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
TP83;3281391 said:
however Fidel...I have played with all sliders at 50 and the game is very real. but the TEST has made with default sliders at 50 or with your setting sliders?
Other players what you think?

I suggest my sliders, but the user make youself his favorited sliders.
The test are made with my sliders. bye

dan2690;3281392 said:
Hi fidel i really want to use your latest gameplay but have a problem after installing and loading game up the game crashes to desktop at the tutorial stage. Could you or anyone else help me with this thanks

Installation Tips:
Another important suggestion for remove, solve lag or crash with GP EVO or any other patches of other editors is:
Install GP EVO:
On i68Regenerator: select all the data files, first regenerate game files with option "ignore edited files stored in folders" and click GO!
Now regenerate again with option "Take care of edited files....." and click GO!
Sometimes you have to regenerate two times.

bye
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
I still remember that everything is done through math calculations with a special fifa 12 debugging mode and visual debugging (i have unlocked for myself):

When I change the gameplay I have a debug txt file created with all gameplay/AI stats. Everything is not done randomly.

I worked alongside my usual football expert engineer friend (the same for HG - Fifa 11) that tells me what is the real football and then I carry out the modifications in the gameplay/AI.

I believe that the two new topology maps/lists (enabled in GP EVO 6) will be enabled by EA in FIFA 13.
The same thing applies to other discoveries I have made/enabled.
Now you have half fifa 13.

I can not say anything more.

example pics fifa 12 debug mode:
you can see some information/stats in the upper left.
when you select in game a graphic file, you can see the name of the interested file and all info.









 

suso

Club Supporter
dan2690;3281392 said:
Hi fidel i really want to use your latest gameplay but have a problem after installing and loading game up the game crashes to desktop at the tutorial stage. Could you or anyone else help me with this thanks

have same problem mate, game crash in tutorial stage if you start with new personal setting. i think there is some problem in tutorial stage.

solution (skip the tutorial stage) : make the personal setting before you apply fidel's latest gameplay or use your old personal setting.
 


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