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[FIFA12] - PATCHES and MODS by Doctor+ Productions (Fidel Gameplay)

torpedo007

Youth Team
Beta 3 is a fresh one unlike many of your previous releases.

Pros:
.AI plays superbly sometimes.
.Inertia is now really visible.
.Game speed is great

Cons:
.AI is really annoying at times.
.Playing style of every team is the same.
.Lack of long shots.
.AI walking the ball into the box
.Lack of judgement, intelligence shown by the AI.
 

kaicooper

Reserve Team
Fidel

honestly

GP 4 BETA 4 testing version
was the best GP ever for play like REAL

if u make another one same 4BETA 4
but with fix the passes and shoot

it will be NUMBER ONE BRO

cus in 4BETA4 somtimes the shoot and passes just gose another way
 

stanley08

Youth Team
Please i need link to the LATEST of fidel's work. I'm confused with all the many links.. Also, i need completed January updates squad file...
 

he scores goals

Club Supporter
How can I make my team mate AI defense better? Nobody wants to play defense on my team except me. Everyone gets confused and plays out of position, never tracks back, centerbacks don't get in front of crosses, defensive backs refuse to follow runs down the sideline, this is beyond annoying! I put it down to professional difficulty and still my AI teammates are attrocious. Please help! Thanks!

Edit: I set marking for the user at 100, and STILL my centerbacks and wingbacks do not follow the ball carrier, they side step and job leasurly letting the computer pass them for breakaways. This is making me crazy! There's no way to win games unless I do the job of everyone, I can't keep stopping every attack by myself. Please fix the AI and make my teammates play defense! Thanks!
 

kaicooper

Reserve Team
regularcat;3177006 said:
if its a beta test & he doesnt have a direct link to it, should we really be posting it up for grabs ?

bro..its not allowed to put the link in Puplic..its just for Beta Testers
 

b4thman

Club Supporter
Hello, I have just installed the last 4.4 beta, and played some matches. I apreciate very much the effort of the comunity to tweak this game and make it better. I consider that developers often read these forums, and I can't resist to express my opinion about the game (also our opinions could be usefull for modders). Understand this like a constructive criticism.

For my taste, the big problem I have with this game is that the phisics is far away from what it should. I'm not complaining about this mod, of course, I'm speaking about the game itself, and the way it uses to emulate something called “football”. I think I would prefer a game with all players with exactly the same attributes (all the same speed, same skills, etc), just because I think it would be much easier to detect anomalies and emulate correctly the phisics. Anyway I'm not expecting a great database, I'm only interested in the football game itself, not in the footballers. I say this because sometimes I see how a shot or a simple pass is more or less correctly drawn, and suddenly, when I change the player, the same action gives me as a result a missile without sense, or a ball trayectory totally antinatural.

In my opinion this game is too much arcade, and also let let the computer to decide more things than desired. For my taste, a football game can’t be good if I have not the possibility of kicking the ball with the power I want, and send in the direction I want, at the height I want, and that the ball trace a path believable and natural. I think this should be the basis of a good game of football, and whatever comes next shoud be a bonus. I’m not saying this to discourage anyone, but for depelopers (to give them another opinion).

This game offers the possibility to modify the attributes of the players, yes, but I get the feeling that this versatility does nothing but confuse. I do not know if it may be nonsense for others, but I think I'd like a patch to put all players with exactly the same attributes, and to focus on the response of that player "model" would be as credible as possible.

It would also be interesting that Fifa 13 take into account small details that kill the immersion, such as the horrifying pespective used in the cameras, or the disproportion in the size of the areas. I would recommend them to forget everything and focus on a piece of land and a ball, and try to make teh ball behave naturally ... and then everything else. What happened with that Nvidia Phisics? plan to apply exclusively to chess games?
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
regularcat;3177006 said:
if its a beta test & he doesnt have a direct link to it, should we really be posting it up for grabs ?

thanks for all support!
...don't worry.. they are not links to latest and private beta versions (AI & DB)..
bye
 

kaicooper

Reserve Team
ok i tried the last Beta tester but with Original db

everything is fixed and great

but i found to new Bugs
-Refree said its offside and i watched the Replay but it wasnt Offside !!! only one time
-now everyteam..even small teams play like Barcelona in Career mode lol
they know when i'll pass and everything just like the original EA ****
 

regularcat

Manager
Moderator
b4thman;3177172 said:
Hello, I have just installed the last 4.4 beta, and played some matches. I apreciate very much the effort of the comunity to tweak this game and make it better. I consider that developers often read these forums, and I can't resist to express my opinion about the game (also our opinions could be usefull for modders). Understand this like a constructive criticism.

For my taste, the big problem I have with this game is that the phisics is far away from what it should. I'm not complaining about this mod, of course, I'm speaking about the game itself, and the way it uses to emulate something called “football”. I think I would prefer a game with all players with exactly the same attributes (all the same speed, same skills, etc), just because I think it would be much easier to detect anomalies and emulate correctly the phisics. Anyway I'm not expecting a great database, I'm only interested in the football game itself, not in the footballers. I say this because sometimes I see how a shot or a simple pass is more or less correctly drawn, and suddenly, when I change the player, the same action gives me as a result a missile without sense, or a ball trayectory totally antinatural.

In my opinion this game is too much arcade, and also let let the computer to decide more things than desired. For my taste, a football game can’t be good if I have not the possibility of kicking the ball with the power I want, and send in the direction I want, at the height I want, and that the ball trace a path believable and natural. I think this should be the basis of a good game of football, and whatever comes next shoud be a bonus. I’m not saying this to discourage anyone, but for depelopers (to give them another opinion).

This game offers the possibility to modify the attributes of the players, yes, but I get the feeling that this versatility does nothing but confuse. I do not know if it may be nonsense for others, but I think I'd like a patch to put all players with exactly the same attributes, and to focus on the response of that player "model" would be as credible as possible.

It would also be interesting that Fifa 13 take into account small details that kill the immersion, such as the horrifying pespective used in the cameras, or the disproportion in the size of the areas. I would recommend them to forget everything and focus on a piece of land and a ball, and try to make teh ball behave naturally ... and then everything else. What happened with that Nvidia Phisics? plan to apply exclusively to chess games?

ea dont read anything or listen to anyone, a man who has never played football/soccer could make the gameplay better than ea.
 

he scores goals

Club Supporter
Is there anything that can be done about the sim engine? For example, teams that go down a man because of a red card always seem to either draw, or win. That makes no sense. Secondly, substitutions by the Ai is horrible. Down a goal or more, sometimes no subs at all??? Or subs for defense, no offensive subs? These things I hated the most in the game, is it possible to edit this at all? Thanks for your work! Looking forward to a new release.
 

torpedo007

Youth Team
The latest beta testing version is great.

As I said in the pm@Fidel, the AI needs to show more tendency to shoot/pass rather than dribbling around. Can you reduce the time wasted by the AI on dribbling? AI runs with the ball meaninglessly. They shouldn't turn 45deg, 45deg, run... shoot from the 6yard box, goal. It shouldn't be like that.

And, please increase long balls. It's like Barchesterfield. Barca everywhere!
 

kaicooper

Reserve Team
Fidel

plz fix last Beta
cus now the CPU is back to EA Original
they know when i'll pass and when i'll tuckle and everything
 

he scores goals

Club Supporter
Agreed with the points here. Almost zero long balls, barely any crosses, mostly just passing it around then dribbling to shoot.

And the Ai does seem to know what I'm doing. I stopped playing on world class because it was just too annoying.
 

kaicooper

Reserve Team
he scores goals;3177571 said:
Agreed with the points here. Almost zero long balls, barely any crosses, mostly just passing it around then dribbling to shoot.

And the Ai does seem to know what I'm doing. I stopped playing on world class because it was just too annoying.

EXACTLY man

it was great for me before
but now with last Beta testing

this's the only issue for me
they know EVERYTHING im doing..i feel sick now
 

torpedo007

Youth Team
he scores goals;3177571 said:
Agreed with the points here. Almost zero long balls, barely any crosses, mostly just passing it around then dribbling to shoot.

And the Ai does seem to know what I'm doing. I stopped playing on world class because it was just too annoying.

My thoughts! ^

So, can we not see more long shots without editing the db?
Or is there a particular value for a command line which increases teams' shooting tendency? All the players (not only those who're having long shot trait) and teams?
 


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