Final Juan Roman Riquelme by Miguelito

[migge10]

Thanks for all cred I have received for this face and thanks
for the critics so I could improve it ....
I have some answers in the other thread that I will answer
right now .......
Cred goes to Fede and Gabriel for all the photos and tips
and to Diego of course!!!!!

The face will be in the usual sites......

 

[Der_Ludi]

Great!

 

[The Don't]

Identical...superb!

What headshape did you start of with for this face? Because I'd really like to know as I often choose the wrong ones making it much harder for myself...

 

[rahulmvora]

woohoo! superb mate ! why dont u ppl (miguelito,diego,neovico,chris) work for EA ? i bet u ppl are anyday better than those EA facemakers .

 

[Hakeem]

yes

you can get it as always thanks to Miguelito at FIFAURUGUAY

MASTER PIECE!!!

 

[Paco 4]

Magnificent

 

[Yj]

Originally posted by rahulmvora
woohoo! superb mate ! why dont u ppl (miguelito,diego,neovico,chris) work for EA ? i bet u ppl are anyday better than those EA facemakers .

well, actually i don't think you can compare like that. Migge, Chris etc are just editing from pre-made Faces by EA. Either a generic headshape or a certain template is already there, so what they do is edit the specific details and increase the realism of the faces.

But over at EA, i think they model the faces from scratch, that means REALLY modelling out of a box in 3D studio etc. , or they could scan in the headshapes which is a possibility too.

So the challenge is for EA to allow us to import into 3D studio and also edit RAV datas and storage spaces, then we can really have a competition. Right now, i don't think they are better than EA based on edited faces. I mean you can't possibly create a new face from scratch....

and i think only Neovico is a professional real-time 3D modeller who really knows all these modelling stuffs, and that's why he's aiming for his trip there.

 

[ChRIsA]

yes, I agree. EA do all the hard work, they are just no good at making some of the faces perfect, but they do some good faces like Henry and Tristan and Thuram.
They have to model a head from scratch which is very hard to do, although it is much easier for them because they can work more closely with the head and texture to make better faces.
I believe that in the future I can be better than they are, but I would prefer to work for a different developer like Codemasters.

 

[Chuny]

Originally posted by Yj


well, actually i don't think you can compare like that. Migge, Chris etc are just editing from pre-made Faces by EA. Either a generic headshape or a certain template is already there, so what they do is edit the specific details and increase the realism of the faces.

But over at EA, i think they model the faces from scratch, that means REALLY modelling out of a box in 3D studio etc. , or they could scan in the headshapes which is a possibility too.

So the challenge is for EA to allow us to import into 3D studio and also edit RAV datas and storage spaces, then we can really have a competition. Right now, i don't think they are better than EA based on edited faces. I mean you can't possibly create a new face from scratch....

and i think only Neovico is a professional real-time 3D modeller who really knows all these modelling stuffs, and that's why he's aiming for his trip there.

Originally posted by ChRIsA

yes, I agree. EA do all the hard work, they are just no good at making some of the faces perfect, but they do some good faces like Henry and Tristan and Thuram.
They have to model a head from scratch which is very hard to do, although it is much easier for them because they can work more closely with the head and texture to make better faces.
I believe that in the future I can be better than they are, but I would prefer to work for a different developer like Codemasters.

It's true that Neovico is the only one here that knows very very well the 3D Edition.. but Migge and other faces makers (as Diego, Andy) know that work too...
EA also, should make a lot of South American faces.. and not only ENGLAND FACES!...That is very bad, because as they said, the most "buyers" will be from ENGLAND... OK so, the rest of the worls should not buy the game... so they will start making other faces..
How can players like Aimar, Riquelme, Ortega, Ronaldo, cafu and others don't have their own faces!!!! are they crazy????

anyway, GREAT FACE MIGGE!!!!
It's also avaible at: FIFAExpress

See ya

sorry about my baaad english, I know it sux .

 

[hristostoichkov]

A great work as always from the man himself.
Congratulations.

 

[Chelsea2001]

great face

 

[jonny_rocker]

Magnific!!!

Excellent face Miguelito! As always your first class faces make the game better and better!!!

It´s not really fair to compare your work with EA's. Assuming you are editing faces as a non-proffessional (i.e not getting paid by a major company) you get excellent results!! Companies like EA have lots of resources at their disposal. I work as a developer for a multimedia company and we have 3d artists that are really amazed about your eye for details. The hard part is not bulding the actual headshape or model - the tools we have are getting better and better - the real work is making the final product look as realistic as possible and that´s where true talent makes a difference. So if you are not working professionally you should really consider a career in this area. There are lots of people who know how to use apps like Maya and 3DMAX (myself included), but only a few can create real art. You have what it takes!!!

 

[windtalker]

Holy **** !!! This face is PERFECT ! It's awesome. CAn't wait to download it !

 

[Hakeem]

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Originally posted by windtalker
Holy **** !!! This face is PERFECT ! It's awesome. CAn't wait to download it !

you dont have to wait, just go to FIFAURUGUAY

 

[windtalker]

Re: .

Originally posted by Hakeem


you dont have to wait, just go to FIFAURUGUAY

Thanks Hakeem !!! I've downloaded it now from ur site.

 

[migge10]

Thanks

Great that you liked the final ......
This superb player deserves a good face!!
jonny_rocker -Thanks for those comments and great that you see potential in my faces they are very apreciated.....
Yj- I know that EA crew is more proffesional than my works
and not comparable.... but
If I would have all their tools it wouldnt take to long before they would have competition, and remember this conversation is only
possible because we have superdevelopers of tools like Neovico,
Diego,Vogel and many others that should not be forgotten but I
dont know all their names ..........

 

[Yj]

yea that's why i said you can't compare.

We should challenge EA and provide us the tool that converts RAV into 3DS or something that they use to model in 3D Studio.

jonny_rocker: yeh, the hard part is not the head-shape, but imagine, starting off with nothing, you still need a decent head model to start off. And with EA's faces, the eyes, the nose and the mouth are all pre-modelled. And thanks to Neovico, we can now edit them and make them more specific.

PS: i'm not saying EA's work are more professional than yours, i'm just saying we can't compare. With all the modifications you've done, they look simply great and awesome to say the least. Great job!

 

[sebbe]

tHIS FACE IS SUPERB

I downloaded this face and I must day that it is The most realistic
face I have ever seen,superb....
When are U making upgrade of you Zlatan face,please!!!!

Kom igen eller Anders Svensson!!