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Mel Brennan said:So, what you are saying is that the few Americans (and American cartoons, for god's sake) you've watched vis-a-via some mass media don't like or understnad football? That's fine, for what it's worth. Which is, to be frank, not too much.
Not too much at all.
Not only that, but in general English women don't like/understand Association Football.TristanAbbott7 said:to generalize that Americans don't like soccer is like saying English women are ugly!
StevePitts said:There are so many elements of this thread that one could have fun with, but I'm short of time so I'll just add a couple of points.
Firstly, I believe that Association Football (I can't bring myself to call it soccer, as that term is little used on this side of the Atlantic, but in my household 'football' refers to Rugby Union) is the second largest participation sport in the US. So if Americans, in general or otherwise, don't like/understand it there must be some mass masochistic thing going on there..
StevePitts said:Finally, to anyone that thinks that FIFA is a bad game, trying playing EA's take on rugby or cricket (or indeed, anyone's take on those two sports). Association Football is not the easiest of sports to simulate well, but FIFA does a good enough job that it has sucked this non-fan into playing pretty much every iteration since World Cup '98.
StevePitts said:Not only that, but in general English women don't like/understand Association Football.
Please don't because I am quite happy with my purchases and feel that I got value for money from all of them (with the possible exception of WC 2002, which was horrible enough to put us off buying either Euro 2004 or WC 2006) despite the fact that most have had their flaws (and a fair share of out and out bugs). My son and I have considered both PES 4 and PES 5, but only having time (and money) for one Association Football game chose to go with the familiar rather than risk lashing out thirty quid for a dud.thisempty said:Then i feel sorry for you, i think that if you played PES you would be a much happier guy...
StevePitts said:Please don't because I am quite happy with my purchases and feel that I got value for money from all of them (with the possible exception of WC 2002, which was horrible enough to put us off buying either Euro 2004 or WC 2006) despite the fact that most have had their flaws (and a fair share of out and out bugs). My son and I have considered both PES 4 and PES 5, but only having time (and money) for one Association Football game chose to go with the familiar rather than risk lashing out thirty quid for a dud.
thisempty said:soccer
thisempty said:yeah, by 8 year old kids...
Mel Brennan said:Soccer is a British term, guy. Stop talking now, maybe take the time to actually know, then type.
Mel Brennan said:I usually say this TO Americans, but, um, what you see on television doesn't constitute all, or even most, reality. The actual reality is that there are soccer leagues of all ages, and all sexes, all throughout the USA.
Mel Brennan said:Again, actually know, then type. Watching television doesn't constitute knowing anything. You're like the poster-boy for Jerry Mander's famous work of the 1970s. I'd almost like to study you.
thisempty said:best effort...