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FM2006 stats table for PES5 shared

P

pubb

Youth Team
repost:
http://rapidshare.de/files/13257407/pes.rar.html

This is an Excel file format table, with almost all players' stats converted from FM2006 patch 6.0.2. Please give your comments about the stats. Before kschoice's editor comes out, if you like, you can and have to edit your favorite team(s) by hand according to the stats list.

Most of the formula are as the same as former fm2005-pes4/we8i. The formula for new PES5 stats are here:
WB: consider WingBackLeft and WingBackRight, if and only if both are 0, then consider WingBack. -- the same rule as the former convension engine, 'new positions' before 'old positions'.

SS: consider (AttackingMidcentral+AttackerCentral+Freerole)/3, if (AttackingMidentral/AttackingMidleft/AttackingMidright) are all set 0, then consider (AttackingMidfielder+Attacker+Freerole). --Freerole is a critical value here.

Favorite Side：if and only if the value of one of Leftside and Rightside is above than a predefined valve, 'Favorite Side' can be set as Left or Right. Otherwise, it's set 'Both'.

Middle Shooting：if Longshots is big enough.

Covering：if Teamwork+Positioning is big enough (except for Goalkeeper).
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I also upload the option file with some team's FM stats, all typed by myself, including Juventus, Inter, Milan, Fiorentina, Chelsea, ManUnited, Liverpool, Arsenal, Bayern, Schalke, Hertha, Barcelona, R.Madrid, Valencia, R.Betis, and Lyon. If anybody would like to type in your favorite team(s), you are welcome. Better share it, too.
By the way, the option file is based on Superpatch 3.0.
http://rapidshare.de/files/13832503/KONAMI-WIN32PES5OPT.html
 
M

Mikstar

Club Supporter
Great Job !!! :rockman: :rockman:
But many players of South and Central America are missing in your database.
I have a FM 2006 database with more players of this continent. I want to add some teams as Once Caldas, Penarol, Colo Colo.....and many players of these teams are missing in your database.
How is it possible ?
Is it possible to upload my database to convert it to PES 5 Stats ?

Thanks for all.
 
P

pubb

Youth Team
Mikstar said:
Great Job !!! :rockman: :rockman:
But many players of South and Central America are missing in your database.
I have a FM 2006 database with more players of this continent. I want to add some teams as Once Caldas, Penarol, Colo Colo.....and many players of these teams are missing in your database.
How is it possible ?
Is it possible to upload my database to convert it to PES 5 Stats ?

Thanks for all.
Click to expand...

Oh,yes. I just chose some teams. I have another database including all of the highest leagues. I can upload the converted one of it if you like.
 
M

Mikstar

Club Supporter
It will be very kind to post this database.
I want to create the better south american and mexican teams instead of "group A" & "B".
I can't wait anymore. :lui: :lui:
 
N

nik0s

Club Supporter
I've taken an extensive look and it looks fantastic

Only three things I'd like to comment.

1)Although the stamina values are a lot better than the previous version, there still are a lot of around 60 values, and i noticed values around 50 especially on youth players. In reality , in PES5 players with a stamina value of less than 70 are completely useless, can't even finish a half, let alone what happens to them on aggregate fatigue on leagues. As far as youth players with 0 values on FM2006 are concerned, they should get a random number of between 70-80.

2) I noticed really low values on passing accuracy on most goalies. Although that might not affect gameplay too much it might lead to a lot of frustrating crap. Generally I think passing accuracy could get a general slight increase

3) Did you finally get a hold of the potential ability and current ability stats? If you don't already know, those are the most influencial stats on FM2006 itself. They dictate if the player is in good shape and how well he develops. Those would be great to use to get the stats and growth type of unknown youth players. Current ability could also be used to tweak a players stats a little bit

Just minor comments I guess, great work once again
 
N

nik0s

Club Supporter
Oh and one more thing, i just noticed

I think you got it wrongon the favorite side. In PES5 favourite side means that the player can't play very well on the other side (It only affects the positions of SB,WB,SMF,WF)

For example a player that has 18 on right and 17 on left, means that he can play both side, and not just give him a favourite right side.

I think the formula on that situation should be that if BOTH values are over a defined value he should get both sides, not the other way around. Both sides is the "good" feature here.
 
P

pubb

Youth Team
Thank you for the comments. I got a little explanation on them:
1)2). The values calculated are from average of original PES5 stats: min/avg/max. I don't want to change the range of KONAMI settings, so my stats are almost kept the same with 'min/avg/max' as KONAMI's. For example, the min/avg/max for stamina is 43/75/99. If somebody think the value is too low or too high, he can use editor to increase/decrease in percentage.
3). In the table exported by FMscout of fm2006, there're no 'zero' stats at all, not like fm2005. So every player has its certain value. I didn't use 'current abilities/potential abilities' yet.
4). My formula for 'Favorite side' is just as you told. 17/15 will get 'Both', 17/14 will get 'Left'.
 
N

nik0s

Club Supporter
1)2) I assume you're using a random number between min and max using rand() then? This will only work if the random distribution of values between min and max is a uniform distribution. However, in most "natural" situations the usual distribution is the one we call normal distribution (whose plot is the so called "bell curve", where the top of the curve is the average value).

The best thing to do here is to actually plot the distributions of every konami value. This will give a few parameters which can then be applied to a simple function which will then be able to produce random values with the exact same distribution. This will be as close to konami as possible. I've written a C++ class that can work as a nomral distribution random value generator a few months ago. I can send it you want

3) Not a big deal, but you could use potential ability to set the development curve style of a youngster

4) Ok, great cause it appeared backwords the way you phrased it in your initial post :)
 
P

pubb

Youth Team
I want to tweak my formula very much. Now it works like:
pes_value = (cm_ref_value - cm_avg) * (pes_max - pes_avg) / (cm_max - cm_avg) + pes_avg
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Let's look at 'stamina'. cm_ref_value is set to FM2006, like 12, cm_avg is 13, pes_max is 99, pes_avg is 79, and cm_max is 20 (always). Then the pes_value calculated is 76.

I'm not good at mathematics. If u can help a good formula, it'll be very great for the convertor.
You know my email, don't u?
 
K

klear

Youth Team
Thanks but obviously, with it being on a Rapidshare server, it is impossible to download it. It says the link has expired like it always says.

Could you try either Mega Upload or Yousendit please mate?
 
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