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Football- The World Game? The Qualifying Debacle (Article)

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Ruben Sosa

El Jovato
It's just amazing how some Australians consider Uruguay a Joke and Mid-table team while others consider it one of the Worlds finest.

We get the chance to "gel" because we have to play together for nearly 2 years. Australia could do more friendlies if they need to "gel" you could have had another friendly before the first leg, you had the time, just wanted to be rested up to recive a tired Uruguay.
 
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Voltaire

Youth Team
nonsense

Jmclure,

I don't think you know what you're talking about if you claim that playing against Uruguay would be much easier than playing against Jamaica, Mexico, or Costa Rica. That comment is simply absurd, and if you saw Uruguay's last game against Argentina, you'd know that Uruguay has a respectable shot at reaching the final 4 in Japan/Korea.

Uruguay is a great team - it's a shame Australia had to play them and not Ecuador or Brazil.
 
G

Gareth

Starting XI
Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
It's just amazing how some Australians consider Uruguay a Joke and Mid-table team while others consider it one of the Worlds finest.

We get the chance to "gel" because we have to play together for nearly 2 years. Australia could do more friendlies if they need to "gel" you could have had another friendly before the first leg, you had the time, just wanted to be rested up to recive a tired Uruguay.
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I consider Uruguay a great team, the were deserved winners on the day. As for the 'gel' with freindlies and more games, it is very difficult living in a country at the arse-end of the world and especially when clubs wont release our players. If some people actually knew some facts about Soccer Australia you would realise that we have been lobbying to play more and more games as a full squad, the fact of the matter is that FIFA tend to side with club teams rather than the National team for some reason.

FIFA need to reconfigure the International Calender to give teams like Australia and NZ a realistic chance of qualifying against teams like Uruguay.

To compare the ammount of games played by Uruguay and Australia since March 2000:

Australia played 14 (8 of which were qualifiers)
Urguguay played 27 (18 of which were qualifiers)
 
Y

ytwoaone

Red Card - Life [Rude]
Life Ban
OFC claim for a automatic spot at the moment is being thwarted by AFC, but if UEFA sided with OFC, not only are top Australian players are unavailable, so are top South American players, for an unecssary qualifier when OFC should have an automatic spot.

BTW, the point the_man said about New Zealand and others not comlaining is just bollox. If New Zealand were to beat Australia, why should they play off. if they were to beat Australia then they would deserve a place in the WC. An automatic spot would improve New Zealands chances of qualifying.

Ruben Sosa, Uruguay aren't crap, just that they finished mid table. It's not fair that Australia won their group and haven't gone thru. If there had to be a play off, it should have been USA vs Uruguay. At least the match would've been between two mid table sides. CONCACAF doesn't have sides which get thrahes 30-0, but apart from 4 sides, the rest are pretty crap.
 
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jmcclure3tx

Club Supporter
Voltaire said:

I don't think you know what you're talking about if you claim that playing against Uruguay would be much easier than playing against Jamaica, Mexico, or Costa Rica. That comment is simply absurd, and if you saw Uruguay's last game against Argentina, you'd know that Uruguay has a respectable shot at reaching the final 4 in Japan/Korea.

I say:

My point was not that Uruguay was no good, or that playing them is easy. My point was this: I would rather have a guaranteed chance of being 180 minutes away from going to the World Cup than have to play 2 qualification rounds like the U.S. did. Australia were never in danger of not making the playoff. They had the luxury of trying out new players, experimenting with formations and tactics, etc. When you are beating someone 15-0 at half time, you can substitute and try new things. The US couldn't do that as much because we had to actually worry about winning matches and qualifying.
 
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mhflierman

Starting XI
Originally posted by Ruben Sosa
It's just amazing how some Australians consider Uruguay a Joke and Mid-table team while others consider it one of the Worlds finest.
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To be honest.. I think that Uruguay ARE a mid-table team at the moment. They aren't anymore what they once were. There's nothing you can do about it.. but it is a fact. The ones who say that Uruguay are a "joke" team are nuts.. same goes for those who say that it is one of the world's finest. You've got to give Uruguay credit.. but not TOO much. Best of luck though at the WC.

As for the aussies... it's becoming a difficult issue.. there's things to say for both ways of looking at it. The first way is to say that after they one their grooup they should compete with some asian team, instead of a latin-american team. The second way is to say like jmcclure3tx said:
Australia had the biggest joke of a qualification schedule. They are guaranteed every four years to be 180 minutes away from the World Cup. Who wouldn't take that chance?
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the_man

Manager
Originally posted by ytwoaone

BTW, the point the_man said about New Zealand and others not comlaining is just bollox. If New Zealand were to beat Australia, why should they play off. if they were to beat Australia then they would deserve a place in the WC. An automatic spot would improve New Zealands chances of qualifying.
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My point is the Road to the World cup should be a difficult one. Qualifying from the OFC in Number spot is not difficult. I know of many teams in other confeds that didn't qualify that would sell their children to be in the OFC if the OFC had one guaranteed spot. Ofcourse automatic spot would improve their chances...only to be embarassed in the world cup.
 
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Ubik Valis

Croatian Viking
Originally posted by Jambo Den
I'm sure Australia would have won group 6 in the UEFA qualifying(I'll let ZePengiun and Dragan to sort out who got the play-off;))
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Aus 4-1 Bel
Cro 2-0 Sco
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Sco 0-1 Aus
Bel 0-1 Cro
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Aus 1-2 Cro
Bel 4-4 Sco
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Bel 2-2 Aus
Sco 1-3 Cro
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Aus 5-0 Sco
Cro 3-0 Bel
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Cro 5-0 Aus
Sco 1-1 Bel

:D :crazyboy:
 
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ZePenguin

Starting XI
Weird, you even changed the real scores :rolleyes:

Btw australia would have their asses kicked even by scotland, mainly at home, they don't take the pressure...
 
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ZePenguin

Starting XI
Well not belgium anyway (well appart if they play like against turkey in euro 2k :rolleyes: , but hell even san marino would have achieved a draw against that louzy team...)
 
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Voltaire

Youth Team
JmmClure:

It doesn't really work that way: because whereas the US was getting decent opposition from the likes of Mexico and Costa Rica, Australia wasn't getting very much experience from playing the likes of Samoa or Fiji. By this, I mean you can experiment with a 1-2-7 formation and be successful with it against Oceanic opposition, but trying it against the likes of SuperGermany, and the game would be over by halftime.
 
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