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formation and tactics

ac_milan

Club Supporter
Hello,

I really need to your help guys.
i've been playing fifa 2007 with my friends recently. My problem is with my defening. I need to know what formation and tactics (zonal, fall back etc) should i use to keep my defenders back to stop the counter attack, long passing/lobbing stratagies of my opponent.
I can defend crossing and long shots, it just when my defenders are too much further up that i get problems.
I WANT MY DEFENDERS TO STAY BACK(as much as possible), IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?

Kindly let me know. Any idea would be apprieciated. Thank you
 

vrv21

Club Supporter
ac_milan;2333110 said:
Hello,

I really need to your help guys.
i've been playing fifa 2007 with my friends recently. My problem is with my defening. I need to know what formation and tactics (zonal, fall back etc) should i use to keep my defenders back to stop the counter attack, long passing/lobbing stratagies of my opponent.
I can defend crossing and long shots, it just when my defenders are too much further up that i get problems.
I WANT MY DEFENDERS TO STAY BACK(as much as possible), IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?

Kindly let me know. Any idea would be apprieciated. Thank you

I always put my defenders on zone defense, most of the time they stay back, not really sure, btw <3 rossoneri :)
 

mrliioadin

Senior Squad
Part of the realism of FIFA '07 is that defenders are finally getting involved in the attack. in older versions the defenders just stayed back on the 18 and didn't move. This is incredibly useless since your midfield has absolutely no support.

Counter attacks by their very natures are normally 3 guys maybe 4 max actually attacking you. Defending a counter attack is about trying to force your attackers outside or to take a long shot which are much lower percentage chances. When they counter, Switch your one of your back two defenders and provide a fair bit of a cushion to the defender. If he approaches the 18 you have to step up. If he starts to cut to one side or another try to position yourself so that his only options is to continue heading that direction. if he passes the ball, head towards the destination of the ball. If you effectively gave a cushion you've given yourself a headstart to any advancing passes a player is attempting to play, not to mention most of these passes are to the flanks which help you cut down the angles.

it's all about slowing the attack down during a counter attack. any time you can limit one option, you can often predict what the attacker will do instead. It's a matter of being ready to close them down once they do make a decision.

You will never be 100% effective though.
 

derok

Reserve Team
ac_milan;2333110 said:
Hello,

I really need to your help guys.
i've been playing fifa 2007 with my friends recently. My problem is with my defening. I need to know what formation and tactics (zonal, fall back etc) should i use to keep my defenders back to stop the counter attack, long passing/lobbing stratagies of my opponent.
I can defend crossing and long shots, it just when my defenders are too much further up that i get problems.
I WANT MY DEFENDERS TO STAY BACK(as much as possible), IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?

Kindly let me know. Any idea would be apprieciated. Thank you

---about the formation, you can use any that has 4 or 5 defenders,
example: 4-1-2-1-2
or
5-2-1-1-2(this one is maybe too defensive)
---In the tactics, you have to use the zonal(so the defenders will stay more in their place), and flat back(so they don't go to attack that often)
---In the mentality of the team you can also choose the defensive one, you activate it with the "5" button, in the keypad of the right in the keyboard.
and that's it!!
 

Y0DaddyAlex

Youth Team
the defenders may get involved in the attack, but once they do that, they act like idiot midfielders or attackers, and refuse to get back to their position, unless you force them to. annoying
 

homblooie

Club Supporter
i have found on 442, simply press select to make ur tactics "defend" ie arrow down (on ps2). u have neutral, attack and defend. neutral and attack have backs pushing up, whereas defensive stance leaves them in their position all the time. guaranteed. however ur attack could be less progressive up the field, so what i do is, i simply change my mentality through the game, keep possession with the "defensive" stance on, then when i am pushing forward, i press select again and go into "attack" or "neutral", and i have more options up front. toggling btween the two is the best way imo.

however, one annoying thing is (DEFINITLEY) is the stamina of the wing backs. phillip lahm (imo) is practically useless, as his rating drops to 77 (from 86) as a left back, his attacking causes him to get tired. other wing backs are not as severe, but suffer same stamina problems. very frustrating.
 

pfk505

Youth Team
I (almost) always use Pressure for Defence and CounterAttack for offence, and use a 4-1-2-1-2 formation (or diamond 4-4-2 in real life) and I love how the wingbacks get into the mix. The neat thing is if my RB or LB pushes up past the winger, the winger or CDM will cover the position unless I'm way far upfield. I absolutely love this and its a nice touch for the AI to do it (unlike in past years as many have said).

I find the offensive tactics of WP and BO absolutely useless, since they do nothing (especially box overload) to aid in the attack. I notice zero difference with them on or off. MR works ok but I only use it if my tactics arent working and im not getting anywhere.

I will also use ZD sometimes against the best sides.
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
derok;2333800 said:
---about the formation, you can use any that has 4 or 5 defenders,
example: 4-1-2-1-2
or
5-2-1-1-2(this one is maybe too defensive)
---In the tactics, you have to use the zonal(so the defenders will stay more in their place), and flat back(so they don't go to attack that often)
---In the mentality of the team you can also choose the defensive one, you activate it with the "5" button, in the keypad of the right in the keyboard.
and that's it!!

I use 3 in defence if the game is important to me. The 3 always stay in defence but if I use 4 I find that I am susceptable to counterattacks where I am overwhelmed in numbers as the full backs are always pushed up leaving two central defenders no matter what tactics I use. Has anyone found any tactics where the full backs hold position? Flat back 4 is useless and there never is any flat back 4 (I can get flat back 3 using it). Defensive tactics and zonal the FB's still push up
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
O'neill;2338479 said:
Has anyone found any tactics where the full backs hold position?
Not tactics but if you switch mentality to defensive then the back four will generally hold station.
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
StevePitts;2338656 said:
Not tactics but if you switch mentality to defensive then the back four will generally hold station.


Doesnt work for me mate. I was going to write yesterday that I disagreed, then I thought -let me go try it again and make sure I use those settings. I kicked off and was passing the ball between my forwards around the centre circle and looked at the radar to see.. my full backs pushing up. They did this through the game and there was never any flat back 4, the oponents could break to 2 central defenders and the only time I had the full backs in place was if the oponents slowly built their attacks or I could slow down their attack.
 

derok

Reserve Team
O'neill;2339502 said:
Doesnt work for me mate. I was going to write yesterday that I disagreed, then I thought -let me go try it again and make sure I use those settings. I kicked off and was passing the ball between my forwards around the centre circle and looked at the radar to see.. my full backs pushing up. They did this through the game and there was never any flat back 4, the oponents could break to 2 central defenders and the only time I had the full backs in place was if the oponents slowly built their attacks or I could slow down their attack.

Let me try what you are doing,
tell me which team you are using, against what team you are playing, and the level of difficulty.
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
derok;2339590 said:
Let me try what you are doing,
tell me which team you are using, against what team you are playing, and the level of difficulty.


World class, AC Milan against who ever you choose. Dont see why that makes a difference.
Actually when you look at it in the games tactics help the starting position is the FBs forward of the CDs and the CDs push up to get a flat back 4, but that doesnt happen in the game and that is not how a flat back 4 works.
 

derok

Reserve Team
O'neill;2339702 said:
World class, AC Milan against who ever you choose. Dont see why that makes a difference.
Actually when you look at it in the games tactics help the starting position is the FBs forward of the CDs and the CDs push up to get a flat back 4, but that doesnt happen in the game and that is not how a flat back 4 works.

the flat back tactic will work when you are defending.
In the games tactics help, you'll see that the option appears only in the defending tactics screen.
I am using this setting: mentality to defensive, flat back option enabled, zonal option enabled. formation: 4-1-2-1-2
When you are playing and have possesion of the ball, if you look at the radar,
you'll see that the left back and right back often go to attack, but the moment you lose the ball, if you look at the radar, they or other players will make a flat back line immediatly with 4 defenders. And this 4 defenders flat back line will persist as long as you don't have possesion.
Another thing I noticed when having possesion of the ball, is that if you enable the wing play, the right and left back, stay at the back a lot more; try this, and see how it works.
Another thing when defending, is to use the "call second defender" button,
for example: you are attacking, and you lose the ball, and the other team starts a counter attack, what you do is to wait with the defenders you have , and keep the "call second defender" button pressed so, the midfielders will run faster, to help you in defence.
 

koempel

Club Supporter
Perhaps the 'playing style' of your defenders also influences the way they play ingame. I haven't really checked to varify that, but perhaps it's an idea to make all your defenders sweepers but with the normal positions. So instead of a rb/lb as a wing back, ball winner or stopper (fe with CM).
Also, if you have the CEP installed you might want to change some rb/lb players of Milan, they are mostly dribblers lol.
 

StevePitts

Senior Squad
O'neill;2339502 said:
Doesnt work for me mate
Well it has always worked perfectly well for me, using both 4-4-2 and 4-1-2-1-2 with several different teams. However, I don't use any other tactics at all, just the default settings, which might make a difference. The edge defenders may occasionally push up in support of the edge midfielder in front of them, if they have the ball, but drop back again as soon as the ball is passed on. I use this tactic a lot late in close games, and I also made extensive use of it when completing possession related challenges because it meant that the back four stayed in line for me to just pass the ball back and forth from one side of the field to the other.

Which formation do you use, and have you tried defensive mentality with no tactics selected??
 

O'neill

Reserve Team
StevePitts;2339881 said:
Which formation do you use, and have you tried defensive mentality with no tactics selected??


No but will try. OK, seems some people can make it work but I'm happier with 3 at the back as I think they hold better for me.
 


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