Get ready-- FIFA 2003 SUCKS!!!...BAD!

[rascricket]

Now, now my international brethren, I know I'm upsetting many ,MANY people and I'm not trying to be a rabble rouser. The first time the computers offense (one guy) walked from half field up to my goal and scored i thought to myself..THIS IS CRAP!!! Poor programming--BIG TIME- Hopefully playing someone else is a different story--I will say THIS IS FROM A ONE PLAYER GAME ASPECT.....I wish I had a dollar for every hour spent playing a soccer vid game---'speciallly ISS Evolution (US release)..I know what im talking about....Graphics are great but big Feakin' deal...If you're more concerned with graphics...well that says alot about you! I mean come on...you've seen em wlak uncontested right to your goal...don't act like you havent...this game is a major dissapointment and many are too afraid to say so cuz they bought it...The kit customization, especially the PC version is cool and will keep you busy...but when you get to the field its CRAP!! God help you if you're thinkin' "This AMERICAN guy can't speak for FIFA..AMERICANS dont know football" that's just silly. I CAN speak for football games and I stand proud and tall when i declare WORLD TOUR SOCCER/ THIS IS FOOTBALL kicks this new FIFA-EA Conspiracy-never give you a complet game-save it for next year-just let that flaw go-headers dont work oh well-game is choppy-oh yeah, let that flaw go too peice of ELECTRONIC ARTS BULL CRAP!!Some EA games deliver-- MADDEN 2002 was as much of a complete game than they've ever released! I bet their halfway kicking them selves for givin us all those sliders!Post a reply If you think I'm crazy or what. Iknow changin some of the settings in FIFA 2003 can make it better as it did in WORLD CUP 2003 but I tried that (Power Bar fill-up speed, i know!) and it still sucks!!I'm highly dissapointed in my soccer/footie friends giving this game ANY glory!!!

 

[PsyX]

Well said!
Indeed, If they ever relase International Super Star (ISS) or Pro Evolution Soccer (PES) on PC I'll never look back on Fifa again. But for now this is all we have and have to stick with it (On Pc that is )

 

[ex_tep]

no you are not crazy you are tottaly insane for saying your oppinion in this forum..Though i have to agree with many things you just said.Fifa 2003 is not a complete game but a BETA one ..Also the programming is sooooooo poor...
Ofcourse it has good graphics and gameplay.What about choppyness with GF4ti cards...and many other bugs..No ofcourse im not gonna buy this fifa..I had all previous fifa and nba original..but this one is Beta and i m not gonna spend my money to see choppy graphics and bugs.Thats my oppinion ofcourse ..i ll stick with myth version

 

[mohawk]

Okay so its not perfect

 

[bmxmongoose]

YAY I HAVE A PS2 looks like im gonna be saying good bye 2 fifa 2003 on pc. ill probably give PES ago wen i can be bothered 2 get it but at the moment im on to games like the getaway and grand theft auto vice city

 

[rascricket]

Guess I am crazy goin' off in this forum but man, ........YAWN!!! I'm so tired of EA ....they put so much more into things like the interface screen, the intro and other fancy graphics and not NEARLY enough on the field!! I'ts so true....I dont need fancy screens and crap like that...MONEY....thats all ....did you know EA's FIFA . and I forget which year, is in the GUINESS BOOK OR RECORDS for copies sold of a video game??Gwan an' chek it bro......hook.....line .....and Stinker! (Boy, I'm goin' off today!)

 

[bmxmongoose]

I think fifa 2003 should be EA's last football game, why dont they leave it 2 sum1 that can make decent football games, EA should make the games there good at, if fifa 2004 does appear it will suck as well, sorry 2 say, but ive lost faith in EA.

 

[gareth07uk]

I have both PES2 and FIFA 2003. FIFA 2002 is crap, FIFA 2002 world cup is much better than FIFA 2002. However FIFA 2003 is cream of the crop, the downloadable one with Arsenal v Real Madrid is superb, the graphics just take the piss, too good.

PES2, one on ones suck, even on 5 stars, the games piss easy. Pass round, through ball to the fast winger and your in on goal. There is also skank players like Semau of Cameroon, costs 18 and is as good as Ronaldo who costs 50.

This is where FIFA kicks in with realism, the players are correctly given attributes.

Gameplay v Realism is a very fine line between the two. They both have their cons and pro's, neither is better. We simply give our opinion on the matter and some idiots argue over the internet proving nothing.

Dullards argue on the net

 

[Goo Goo boy]

Originally posted by gareth07uk
I have both PES2 and FIFA 2003. FIFA 2002 is crap, FIFA 2002 world cup is much better than FIFA 2002. However FIFA 2003 is cream of the crop, the downloadable one with Arsenal v Real Madrid is superb, the graphics just take the piss, too good.

PES2, one on ones suck, even on 5 stars, the games piss easy. Pass round, through ball to the fast winger and your in on goal. There is also skank players like Semau of Cameroon, costs 18 and is as good as Ronaldo who costs 50.

This is where FIFA kicks in with realism, the players are correctly given attributes.

Gameplay v Realism is a very fine line between the two. They both have their cons and pro's, neither is better. We simply give our opinion on the matter and some idiots argue over the internet proving nothing.

Dullards argue on the net

its ur opinion, what can i say...
bmxmongoose, i think almost everybody has lost faith in EA a loooooooong time ago, the point is: Konami is not making the pc version of the game(dont know why!!!), and we,pc owners that love football, have to play somethin... of course we prefer not play sh** games, but there isnt better!! i dont think EA should leave the football games, cuz then we couldnt even play fifa!!! most of these editors that edit fifa, dont like this game either but they try hard to make it better
i think the only way for us, real football lovers, to play a good game is buying a ps2
its unfair!!!!!!

 

[The Don't]

FIFA 2003 is the biggest pile of ****e I've played in a long long time. I'm not just talking in comparison to other football games either, I'm talking about games in general. Its a shabby, shabby game and I'm surprised (and disappointed) that game reviewers haven't really noticed this. There are so many bugs! I don't care if EA SPORTS only had a short amount of time to make it, they're a big enough company to cope and I find it hard to believe the lack of testing the game must have had.

I could now go on, explaining all the bugs in the game but there are so many I daren't even begin.

Oh, and don't get me started on the gameplay.......

 

[rascricket]

First off, and off the subject, It's a damn amzing thing we can send little messages across that big ocean...too cool..nice to talk to people from all over----Ah, Football...........great thing.Must be nice livin' in a country where Football is the main sport. The ol' US has a long way to catch up.......Anyway......I guess I feel sorry for the PC-footie community.....not much goin'.....you guys get patches though,right?Downloadable stuff is cool........But seriously, If we want to get down to the brass tax as they say, I (I'm crazy to do this) ask SOMEONE who reads this to tell me WHY.............WHY Do you think this game is good.I'm not tryin' to be a DULLARD (or any other 'skanky' English word) and argue I'd just like to hear a few things. I mean alot of reviewers give it high ratings.......must be getting paid!HA,ha! The THIS IS FOOTBALL forum is sooo weak and the FIFA 2003 forum is jus' bumpin'........I would think TiF would be more popular Internationally because it has a more international feel......English guys made it is what I mean.........I dont know (Japan?) who is responsible (or should I say TO BLAME!) for programming FIFA, (though Konami of course does an UNCANNY job comin' from Japan) the guys at Soho seem to have a better feel for things that normally happen in the course of a game CUZ THEY GREW UP WITH IT!!! Tif has a more worldy feel ......................any replies to that?

 

[AZone]

Any official site of PES PC version?

FIFA 2003 the worst and the best at the same time soccer game EA ever made... And EA gave me one lesson this year - never buy a new game from EA before you get it other way without paying money.

 

[tottiiii]

is PES2 available for ps2 in the US?, i thought i saw somewhere someone said it wasnt

 

[gareth07uk]

is PES2 available for ps2 in the US?, i thought i saw somewhere someone said it wasnt

Nope.

USA and football go together like petroleum and a naked flame. Stick to what your good at which is domestic sports nad mkaing this world a worse place on the political scene. England should also give up cricket.

 

[Universal]

Its very clear...

Your comparision of EA's efforts with MADDEN and FIFA are well-founded... EA farmed out the MADDEN series to a developer (Tiburon) that wanted to make a name for itself, and sort of gets off on bettering the game every year (alot like SIGames)...FIFA, the most global game EA has on offer, is of course not farmed out to an ambitious third-party developer, but kept in-house at EA Canada. The only thing that got this in-house development group to work enough to give us the little bit of improvement we DID get what loss of market share.

Thus, one can easily figure that the FIFA franchise will only continue to get better in one of three ways: EA gives it to a talented and ambitious third-party developer (not likely) or, EA continues to lose statistically significant amounts of market share to Konami, etc., or Konami releases PES for the PC.

If one of those three things doesn't happen, gamers will continue to endure EA's lack of talent/focus on selective feature allocation from year to year...

Oops; I forgot a FOURTH thing, and I'll pose it in the form of a question:

WHY DOES FIFA GIVE LICENSE EXCLUSIVITY TO EA SPORTS?

FIFPro, The NFL, the NBA, the NHL, NASCAR, the IOC...ALL these organizations sell their license to multiple entities...WHY did FIFA give their license to only one company? If PES had the FIFA license as well, two things would happen: PES would be more authentic, and EA would be forced to get up off their asses and produce...

We need to petition FIFA directly...anybody got that number? It would be better if you spoke Swiss German...if you don't speak Swiss German you can't work at FIFA House...

 

[gmartinz]

You guys are just so funny, to read your diatribes you would think you'd just purchased a game that played like Pong. "EA sucks," "FIFA2003 sucks," "worst game ever!" What a laugh. You won't be satisfied unless you're controlling an actual match with little electronic devices inbedded in the players' bodies.

It's an electronic game, for crying out loud, that's designed to run on most people's computers! You don't have to own a Cray supercomputer to play it. I don't think that the masterminds at EA thought to themselves, 'Let's make a game that really sucks and drive away our customers.' If anything, this year I believe they deliberately tried to move away from an arcade-style game to a more realistic one, concluding that FIFA players are serious about the sport.

I agree, there are a number of problems: headers are messed up, defenders' positions seemed dictated by location rather than movement of the ball. And on and on and on . . .

But the truth is no one has released an overall better game, despite all your protestations that this, that or the other game are FAR SUPERIOR. If they were, people would not be buying FIFA year after year in the numbers that they are (for example, "High Heat" is the best baseball game with the best sales, despite the money and name recognition of EA Sports and MicroSoft).

Criticism is fine and I think every company wants to make a better product, but most of what I read here isn't criticism, it's whining. If you want to play a super-realistic football game, I have an idea: join a real league.

 

[rascricket]

The previous comments on Ea's upcoming marketing strategy was well put....Also, FIFA does only give them (EA) the license...that's total bull. To answer why it sells.....that's obvious...look how sold on EA the last guy who posted is ..See,the word PARADIGM applies here .People are just sold on EA cause they broke serious ground with footie titles; they see FIFA and go 'Yup.. Says FIFA,..says EA'...It took me a long, LONG time to get over the fact that 989 Sports had ANYTHING tho do with WTS '02...Wasn't till I found out they thankfully had nothing to do with it..Team Soho did it of course...I nearly shunned it cuz it said 989..anyway, to say it's wrong to be to critical? Hell No! If you've opened the Pandora's box of beautiful nuances and subtle workings of ISS (somebody gimme an Amen) then you would know that footie games can achieve a certain level of 'Oh my God awesome!So yeah .....I'll be critical....

 

[fire_phoebe]

I had FIFA2002, after playing PES2 this year. I though EA soccer game is so dull, because they are many repetition on the game. On the other hand, I have playing PES2 for 6 weeks and I have not found any repetition on the game, I love it, I do not think I will stop playing the game until PES3 comes.

My personal opinion, I will never go back to EA soccer game!!! SORRY

 

[mohawk]

Originally posted by gareth07uk
Nope.

USA and football go together like petroleum and a naked flame. Stick to what your good at which is domestic sports nad mkaing this world a worse place on the political scene. England should also give up cricket.

Sorry mate...this is old hat....the US have a very decent football squad these days. They got to the quarter-final stage in the world cup (as far as England)...and their Women's team are one of the best in the world (if not THE best)....to say USA and football don't go together is total bull...

Maybe its not quite the spectator's sport as it is here in Europe...but unlike our cricket team the Yanks are more than half decent at playin the sport....

 

[Universal]

Originally posted by gmartinz
You guys are just so funny, to read your diatribes you would think you'd just purchased a game that played like Pong. "EA sucks," "FIFA2003 sucks," "worst game ever!" What a laugh. You won't be satisfied unless you're controlling an actual match with little electronic devices inbedded in the players' bodies.

It's an electronic game, for crying out loud, that's designed to run on most people's computers! You don't have to own a Cray supercomputer to play it. I don't think that the masterminds at EA thought to themselves, 'Let's make a game that really sucks and drive away our customers.' If anything, this year I believe they deliberately tried to move away from an arcade-style game to a more realistic one, concluding that FIFA players are serious about the sport.

I agree, there are a number of problems: headers are messed up, defenders' positions seemed dictated by location rather than movement of the ball. And on and on and on . . .

But the truth is no one has released an overall better game, despite all your protestations that this, that or the other game are FAR SUPERIOR. If they were, people would not be buying FIFA year after year in the numbers that they are (for example, "High Heat" is the best baseball game with the best sales, despite the money and name recognition of EA Sports and MicroSoft).

Criticism is fine and I think every company wants to make a better product, but most of what I read here isn't criticism, it's whining. If you want to play a super-realistic football game, I have an idea: join a real league.

This is among the most stupid of posts I have ever read... Your "HIGH HEAT" argument makes MY point...if FIFA distributed the license, instead of giving it to one company (like MLB does with their license), competition is fostered...thus giving gamers the best possible game each year.

People buy FIFA year after year for two reasons: its the only option on the PC, and its the only game with the FIFA license...it doesn't help to suspend the disbelief when Arsenal is called "London"...in addition, why do you endorse an "accept what you are given" strategy? Whether or not EA loses license exclusivity, it still must be called to task for lacking the commitment to gameplay that is OBVIOUS in PES and PES2, it still must be called to task for its clear history of adding features and taking features away...it MUST be called to task for the lack of game refinement present in the SIGames series.

Understand this. The ONLY reason we got as big a leap in FIFA 2003 as we did is that FIFA LOST MARKET SHARE to PES last year. I know that you probably dont read and research your opinion, but do me this one favor: READ the EA annual report, and understand that what motivates them is buying authenticity...Why do you think that EA continues to put out a **** baseball game in Triple Play every year? Because they know that their marketing engine can drive their products enough to make a little money on whatever they put out there....even if its CLEARLY GARBAGE...

I have no love for EA; its TIBURON, not EA, that produces their best sports game, MADDEN 2003. This year, EA Canada brought in about 100 new people from all over EA, to implement the little bit of improvement we got in FIFA 2003, NOT to make the best possible game they could, but mainly to get back market share from Konami...

You are an EA apologist, and unless you work for them, it makes me sick...Why? Why not challenge them to make the best game they can? What possible vested interest cvould YOU have (other than getting a paycheck from them) in watching EA provide **** product over these past years? I have FIFA International 1996, FIFA RTWC 98, World Cup 98, FIFA 99, FIFA 2000, EURO 2000, FIFA 2001, FIFA 2002, and this years' effort...

I am sick of the lack of gameplay, period. We had the reaplay feature in EURO 2000, but not again until FIFA 2003? Why? We got World Cup qualifying and World Cup options in RTWC 98, but not since then...why?

No love for this company, mainly because their focus is marketing and not creating the best game they can, whereby the marketing would take care of itself...One approach requires very little talent and commitment, the other real talent and commitment...

I do not understand you people...not at all...