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harry potter Vs LOTR

Glorious

Starting XI
yes Ps2 does, GCN well who knows what they are up to i mean physically it is a better machine than PS2 but there is NO marketing, that is why they are losing :p

Anyway
St Johnstone for the first time in its polling history IS LOSING!!! come on guys at least make it 2nd :p Not even Harry Potter can beat St Johnstone! :p
 

Mauricio

El Gran DT
LOTR has been catalogued the best fiction novel ever, that explains everything, HP well u cant compare them cuz HP is a story for little kids or for people who dont really like reading to much cuz is a very "light" book
 

INFESTA

Official
Originally posted by Pferd
13, and im sorry i dont like books longer then the bible. books dont have to be long-ass to be classics. ever read the little prince? thats a ****in classic, and its pretty damn short. read animal farm? its a hundred-page paperback. 1984? not a very long book. anything by mark twain or sir arthur conan doyle?

I read them all. I read a lot, since I learned how to. I even sort of like reviewed 1984 in this very forum a couple years back.

But I said you looked like you were 10. Turns out there's no big difference in reality, so it's all good. LOTR is too adult for you anyway, so stick with the Harry Potters and you'll be fine for now. ;)
Later on in your life you'll get the need for other sorts of literature and you'll look back and remember this little argument and understand everything.




Wow, wasn't that so Matrix like? :o
 

Lennon

Wants to be a Superstar
I have to say LOTR. Thank god that my friends rented LOTR 1 and 2 a couple of days before I went to the movies to see the third one. Watching the first two films helped me understand the story better and I enjoyed the movie a lot. I didn't read the book BTW
 

Alex

sKIp_E
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1984? I recommend 1984...

Hugo, I think your whole "LOTR is adult", "HP is Childish" view is very narrow, and very...umm un-hugo?
 
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C-B

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Originally posted by Mauricio
i want to read it do u recomend it?
its a real good read, no at crap the films and merchandise made it out to be...
do what i did read the book and watch the movie, you can't critzise the film without getting the impression HP is childish, becuase it's not.
 
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C-B

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Originally posted by Lennon
I didn't read the book BTW

I didn't either... it's so friggin complicated that i didn't try.
But many lotr readers say the movie was spot on so i won't bother trying to read it again
 

INFESTA

Official
Originally posted by Mauricio
i want to read it do u recomend it?

Of course! A visionary book. Scary how it looks like today's world. Now that I think of it, it looks like today ever since men are men.
 

INFESTA

Official
Originally posted by Alex
Hugo, I think your whole "LOTR is adult", "HP is Childish" view is very narrow, and very...umm un-hugo?

But LOTR is on a totally different league, Alex. You can't even compare the two; how Tolkien's masterpiece deals with themes that have been on our subconscious since we are men, to intricate issues that a kid will have trouble understanding, various sub-levels of interpretation, whereas HP is so much more child-driven: from the clear-cut story - simplistic enough for everyone to understand - to the wizard/witch/spell imagery, present in every single traditional kid stories. It's a good book for children that also appeals to some adult audiences, but still a kid's plot. The movies are awful, btw. So childish that I can't watch more than 5 minutes.

I hope that was more Hugo-like to you, Alex. ;) :alex:
 
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C-B

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The movies cut soooo much from the book.
Also Dobby was a disgrace.
 

Alex

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Originally posted by INFESTA
But LOTR is on a totally different league, Alex. You can't even compare the two; how Tolkien's masterpiece deals with themes that have been on our subconscious since we are men, to intricate issues that a kid will have trouble understanding, various sub-levels of interpretation, whereas HP is so much more child-driven: from the clear-cut story - simplistic enough for everyone to understand - to the wizard/witch/spell imagery, present in every single traditional kid stories. It's a good book for children that also appeals to some adult audiences, but still a kid's plot. The movies are awful, btw. So childish that I can't watch more than 5 minutes.

I hope that was more Hugo-like to you, Alex. ;) :alex:
Ahh much better, giving reasons for your opinions ;)

But I still disagree, except that the HP movies are a disgrace :)

Ill explain: I agree that LOTR goes much deeper than HP (altho HPs story lines are very well thought out, and are often in glimpses a satirical look at our society), but when I read books, I often do so, purely for a good fun read. HP is easy to read, easy to get into, and I enjoyed it the whole time I was reading it. It wasnt meant to be overly complex, because it was meant to appeal to all ages. I do htink HP is more complex than your average childrens book, but its still for the main part, very simple...However whilst it is simple, its still easy and fun for everyone and anyone to read...

So I think HP is better, simply because it appeals to a much larger audience than LOTR ;) (Honestly I dont think either are better, and dont think they should be compared...but I htought Id just contradict you because I can :))...

Now the movies...I didnt mind hte HP movies, but only because I loved the books...I wasnt happy with the parts the movies missed etc, but I liked the way the characters and worlds that Id read about were brought to life :)...LOTRs movies were MUCH MUCH better....
 

INFESTA

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Originally posted by Alex
HP is easy to read, easy to get into, and I enjoyed it the whole time I was reading it. It wasnt meant to be overly complex, because it was meant to appeal to all ages. I do htink HP is more complex than your average childrens book, but its still for the main part, very simple...However whilst it is simple, its still easy and fun for everyone and anyone to read...

So I think HP is better, simply because it appeals to a much larger audience than LOTR ;) (Honestly I dont think either are better, and dont think they should be compared...but I htought Id just contradict you because I can :))...

Appealing to a larger audience doesn't make a book any better, imho; it just makes it prone to have a bigger revenue later on.
But I agree with you to some extent: HP is more complex than your ordinary children's book, but still is a children's book.
It don't think it'll go down on history as a literature classic - more like a sophisticated and overly hyped Enid Blyton-type-of book collection. Whereas LOTR is already a part of our history one can't erase. It came and it stayed, surpassing its author life span. We're yet to see how things will go with HP...

I'd also like to say LOTR isn't an easy read, but it sure is a rewarding one, just like all the great books I've read. It doesn't focus on children nor is it aimed at them, from an audience point of view.

Ultimately, I agree with you on one of the main issues: both books can't be compared - they play on totally separate leagues, aiming at distinct audiences and have a different glow and feel, deal with separate issues and, above all, one of them marks us for life. :)

(Just finished watching the extended DVD version of 'The Two Towers' :rockman: :rockman: )
 


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