[HELP]Commentay Names DB - Experienced DB Editors

[Suraka]

Hi, I found something strange while investigating the commentarynames table in the db. Normally the commentaryid corresponds to the playerid. But there are a lot of players who don't follow this rule.
for example:
NORMALLY
Iniesta playerid:41 commentaryid:41

STRANGE
Coates playerid:197655 commentaryid:900003

so, what i'm guessing is there's got to be another table or txt or something somewhere where 197655 and 900003 are connected and not just only the commentarynames in the main db.
So maybe the commentary names are no longer unique.


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PS: Also, I found some players not in db which had commentary and minifaces. Even a miniface I made like a month ago was extremely similar to the EA's hidden one.

("mia"=mine)
But maybe this is old news. So try to stick the discussion to the main problem.

 

[Neel]

Man, are u talking of Liverpool's Coates? I played him both in both pairs of english commentary. He was never included in commentary.

Are you sure his name is announced by commentators [English commentators of course]?

Thanks,
Neel

 

[dissectionalone]

I'm not aware how those two are connected, but there are players who have the wrong commentary name (some hidden ones as well) For example, Augusto Fernández, former River Plate midfielder (currently on Vélez Sarsfield I think) gets called Mati Fernández by the commentator. but other players like Johnathan Bottinelli and Guillermo Franco are called properly(provided you use their original EA Id's)

 

[Suraka]

Oh, i haven't tried that, i'll change the id of coates to the correct id to see if the commentators call his name. I had hopes that such table could exist so we could re-use some commentary names.

 

[NaFeR]

Old news man, I tried to modify commentarynames table to assign commentaryname to a player but nothing happens.

 

[Suraka]

Old news man, I tried to modify commentarynames table to assign commentaryname to a player but nothing happens.

I feared it. But searched and didn't find anything so had to ask. Thanks anyway.

 

[VteX]

I play with Benfica and Luisão the comentator says Lucio and when Benfica have a throw-in he says "Throw-in for Real Madrid"

Is there a wy to correct that?

 

[Keegan]

I saw where Scholes' ID was 286, so I created him for my game - no face, no commentary, no nothing. I added Claude Davis (Reggae Boy - former Crystal Palace, now Crawley Town) and his mini-face was there and the commentators call his name. Can someone confirm Scholes' ID for me?

 

[leezhong]

I saw where Scholes' ID was 286, so I created him for my game - no face, no commentary, no nothing. I added Claude Davis (Reggae Boy - former Crystal Palace, now Crawley Town) and his mini-face was there and the commentators call his name. Can someone confirm Scholes' ID for me?

ID of Scholes was 246 !

 

[IVINIVIN]

ID of Scholes was 246 !

I got scholes for my game, but my commentary doesnt say his name.... Anyone knows why?

 

[Keegan]

ID of Scholes was 246 !

Ah... thanks for that. I'll try it later.

 

[dissectionalone]

It only works if the player had his name featured in any commentary on recent games... The downside of this is it seems that if those commentaries were wrong on earlier games, they'll be wrong in Fifa 12 as well. The amount of players with hidden minifaces in the game is pretty reasonable. Assigning original ID's at least takes away the guess work when importing tables

 

[dissectionalone]

And most of the times EA's ID use is coherent. I haven't done an extremely deep research but I've checked a fair number of players and thus far only noticed one player with two different ID's on different games. Perhaps the guy who made the DB was distracted :P

 

[Suraka]

My theoriy is that the commentaryname for players with commentaryid=900XXX were or are planned for future releases and not included because of time/budget constraints.
I see no other explanation why they are in that table.

I checked Coates and changing his commentaryid didn't do anything. It doesn't even appear in create a player.

Off topi question. Anyone has a 2003-2008 player list to check Darío Rodríguez's id?

 

[NaFeR]

My theoriy is that the commentaryname for players with commentaryid=900XXX were or are planned for future releases and not included because of time/budget constraints.
I see no other explanation why they are in that table.

I checked Coates and changing his commentaryid didn't do anything. It doesn't even appear in create a player.

Off topi question. Anyone has a 2003-2008 player list to check Darío Rodríguez's id?

Here you are a 2006-2010 players id list: http://www.mediafire.com/?u5cs2fq35z1l8q6

Credits for Outsider87

P.S.: Commentary audio files it's not removed from previous games (EA is very idle), so when you create a player and assing ID from "old" player who had commentary audio (e.g. 156061 for Juan Pablo Sorín) the commentator names him.

 

[leezhong]

Here you are a 2006-2010 players id list: http://www.mediafire.com/?u5cs2fq35z1l8q6

Credits for Outsider87

P.S.: Commentary audio files it's not removed from previous games (EA is very idle), so when you create a player and assing ID from "old" player who had commentary audio (e.g. 156061 for Juan Pablo Sorín) the commentator names him.

ID of player in FIFA 12 such sas FIFA 11 and FIFA 10(only old player except new player) . But FIFA 9 , some ID was removed(commentary,model , texture..).

Ex(FIFA 09):

1030 Gabriel Batistuta
1114 Roberto Baggio
1116 Marcel Desailly
1173 Nicola Amoruso
1308 Oliver Bierhoff
1399 Christophe Dugarry
5590 Josep "Pep" Guardiola Sala
5681 Marc Overmars

Ids was removed in FIFA 10,11,12(commentary,minifaces,texture...)

 

[dissectionalone]

that ID list is extremely useful But there are some cases were you have to go as far back as fifa 2004 or 2003 to get some original (EA) ID's

 

[dissectionalone]

If necessary, one can always hope the facemakers might provide those players likenesses

 

[NaFeR]

ID of player in FIFA 12 such sas FIFA 11 and FIFA 10(only old player except new player) . But FIFA 9 , some ID was removed(commentary,model , texture..).

Ex(FIFA 09):

1030 Gabriel Batistuta
1114 Roberto Baggio
1116 Marcel Desailly
1173 Nicola Amoruso
1308 Oliver Bierhoff
1399 Christophe Dugarry
5590 Josep "Pep" Guardiola Sala
5681 Marc Overmars

Ids was removed in FIFA 10,11,12(commentary,minifaces,texture...)

That's right, some old players has been removed from the database.

that ID list is extremely useful But there are some cases were you have to go as far back as fifa 2004 or 2003 to get some original (EA) ID's

I tried to find a complete ID list (all players since FIFA 2003, including WC and UEFA CL games), without results

 

[flatron525]

I actually have a lot of players do not call, who called commentators in FIFA 11, and French commentators have called Italy such as Zinedine Zidane, if properly id write

Ronaldo, Recoba, R.karlos but right now not known, hidden from the players only partial nazyvayut, Pires is not call if you write the correct id in his new face! why Ronaldo and other players do not call unless prescribe the right id be repeated in FIFA 11 called the family and old players and new!

The names are not called as I noticed on checking the English of old and new commentary, French and Italian, Ronaldo Luiz Nazario de Lima, Zidane, Dallesandro Andres Riquelme, Zhens Nowotny and is not a full list now can not remember!

Sorry my badly English !