Hired guns needed to protect my ML players cuz CPU IZ TRYIN' TO KILL THEM!!!

[Gnidrologist]

As if getting drained after two matches wasn't enough.

Now comes this.

I just recently jumped into my first ML in Pes5 (on 6*) starting with Minanada and the Gang. Well, it was challanging and all that stuff, couple of wins, bunch of draws and couple of loses. I can't say I miss those first ten matches before the first transfer window. So, when it finally came I thought that for a astarters it would be best to get some decent cheap players, with whom I would earn some more money and respect to be able to get some stars under my flag (I'm Barca).

Got two veterans, Zola (still does a great job for a laughable salery) and Tassoti ( decent fast wingback) and a dozen of promising youth, preferably the ones for witch I didn't have to pay transfer fee or which could be traded for some of the Crapaldniho's. Got me ten guys or so between 18-21: Kaiser, Ruskin, Kaabi, Messi (plays great despite quite weak stats), Insua(good dribbler), Mascherano and some others).

Was very pleased after good and long shopping session and ready to kick some Numancian butt.

The first match in new shape starts with Zola scoring marwellous curved free kick and getting a ''yellow'' injury. Oh well, **** happens, will be back in a week. Then after the match a message pops up that ''Kaabi has discovered and injury''. Nice. Move along.

Next match against Ajaccio. Applying some serious pressure on sorry bastards as suddenly [!] pops up and I see some of my mam lying on ground in terrible pain. ''Maybe it's Vorlander'', I think to myself, ''damn, he's not with us any more''. Messi in your face. 14 weeks on couch. I resisted a tempting urge to reload and start the match over. I was winning 2-0 at a time and Messi set up both goals after neat dribbling in the box.

Ou-keeey, third match, the cup semifinal against the same Ajaccio. Zola back on line so no worries, it's already in a hat.
I start by tearing those italian defences apart with Insua guy, really great dribbler, either fools the D or gets a foul against himself (and should get even better). Did I say foul? The Insua guy has collapsed near the penalty box and no more good. Substitution. All heil Espinas! Zola takes a fk and bang, at least some consolation (he has enourmous curving/fk acc. skill, 97/98 or so). After about 20 minutes of quite slow insignificant struggles mainly in midlefiel i see cutscene showing Zola limping and the familiar yellow cross in front of the name. Damn this is starting to get fishy.;/
As if saying ''fish..whaat? noo, we just going to break legs to all your key players and then laugh at you, that's all'' the AI cuts down Kaabi, the little fast bloke who's good both in defence and attack. Another tackle, another substitution. :boohoo:

Now I've been most vocal in this topic than I've ever been in these forums, but this was something that really got me in frustration whether to laugh or cry. I played till the end of the season having 1.5 injuries per match (non of witch were ''red'' ones any more...pheew). Needless to say that NONE of the default retards has had even I minor injury ever till now, only the ones I bought and preferably the best performers. Now every time I see a tackle comes in it makes me want to scream. Please not an injury.. not this time..pleeease...
But seriously guys, I don't get it. Are young players more vulnerable to injuries in Pes5? Is it a bug that only I've encountered? (doesn't seem like a bug in my book)? Maybe I shouldn't try to play as attacking as I do, maybe that's the reason I get so many nasty tackles fly in.?(yeah right).
In bundle with ridiculously fast exhausting this leads to a complete nightmare. I'm now starting every match with almost completely different lineup and can't even find enough players for some positions. What, do I have to buy 50 footballers to just fill in the gaps after countless injuries, drains. I'm not even taking the form arrows to account anymore, just can't afford it no more.

I just as confused as this guy now

 

[ashrafwolf]

IF you play with Ronaldinho OR sheva They are tackled like million time a match and they never got injured .

 

[Ebonix]

I think its more a matter of who you've brought. It sounds like allot of young and weak players. They might not be able to deal with the strong Italian defenders?

 

[NYCDynamix]

As if getting drained after two matches wasn't enough.

Now comes this.

I just recently jumped into my first ML in Pes5 (on 6*) starting with Minanada and the Gang. Well, it was challanging and all that stuff, couple of wins, bunch of draws and couple of loses. I can't say I miss those first ten matches before the first transfer window. So, when it finally came I thought that for a astarters it would be best to get some decent cheap players, with whom I would earn some more money and respect to be able to get some stars under my flag (I'm Barca).

Got two veterans, Zola (still does a great job for a laughable salery) and Tassoti ( decent fast wingback) and a dozen of promising youth, preferably the ones for witch I didn't have to pay transfer fee or which could be traded for some of the Crapaldniho's. Got me ten guys or so between 18-21: Kaiser, Ruskin, Kaabi, Messi (plays great despite quite weak stats), Insua(good dribbler), Mascherano and some others).

Was very pleased after good and long shopping session and ready to kick some Numancian butt.

The first match in new shape starts with Zola scoring marwellous curved free kick and getting a ''yellow'' injury. Oh well, **** happens, will be back in a week. Then after the match a message pops up that ''Kaabi has discovered and injury''. Nice. Move along.

Next match against Ajaccio. Applying some serious pressure on sorry bastards as suddenly [!] pops up and I see some of my mam lying on ground in terrible pain. ''Maybe it's Vorlander'', I think to myself, ''damn, he's not with us any more''. Messi in your face. 14 weeks on couch. I resisted a tempting urge to reload and start the match over. I was winning 2-0 at a time and Messi set up both goals after neat dribbling in the box.

Ou-keeey, third match, the cup semifinal against the same Ajaccio. Zola back on line so no worries, it's already in a hat.
I start by tearing those italian defences apart with Insua guy, really great dribbler, either fools the D or gets a foul against himself (and should get even better). Did I say foul? The Insua guy has collapsed near the penalty box and no more good. Substitution. All heil Espinas! Zola takes a fk and bang, at least some consolation (he has enourmous curving/fk acc. skill, 97/98 or so). After about 20 minutes of quite slow insignificant struggles mainly in midlefiel i see cutscene showing Zola limping and the familiar yellow cross in front of the name. Damn this is starting to get fishy.;/
As if saying ''fish..whaat? noo, we just going to break legs to all your key players and then laugh at you, that's all'' the AI cuts down Kaabi, the little fast bloke who's good both in defence and attack. Another tackle, another substitution. :boohoo:

Now I've been most vocal in this topic than I've ever been in these forums, but this was something that really got me in frustration whether to laugh or cry. I played till the end of the season having 1.5 injuries per match (non of witch were ''red'' ones any more...pheew). Needless to say that NONE of the default retards has had even I minor injury ever till now, only the ones I bought and preferably the best performers. Now every time I see a tackle comes in it makes me want to scream. Please not an injury.. not this time..pleeease...
But seriously guys, I don't get it. Are young players more vulnerable to injuries in Pes5? Is it a bug that only I've encountered? (doesn't seem like a bug in my book)? Maybe I shouldn't try to play as attacking as I do, maybe that's the reason I get so many nasty tackles fly in.?(yeah right).
In bundle with ridiculously fast exhausting this leads to a complete nightmare. I'm now starting every match with almost completely different lineup and can't even find enough players for some positions. What, do I have to buy 50 footballers to just fill in the gaps after countless injuries, drains. I'm not even taking the form arrows to account anymore, just can't afford it no more.

I just as confused as this guy now

I know exactly what you mean, im on the exact same boat! I finally qualify for the champions league qualifiers after finishing 5 in my last season (5th season was when i moved up to the 1st divison so im in my 6th now), now im 2 wins 2 draws and 1 lose in CL. I'm about to play my last game and I NEED to win no matter what, but guess what??? the 3 stars that i bought Tevez, Brolin and Ronaldo, ALL F*'ING INJURED!! They all got sacked and abused in the last 3 games right before this huge important one coming up, out for 2-3 weeks each! Terrific

I got no plan and i got no other players that can replace their levels, oh yeah im gona have to rely on the trash default players, im gona have to play my ass off with them. :boohoo:

Seriousy, its like the cpu knows they are ur best players and u cant win without them...........this is not the first time this happens btw! Last season, Tevez and Brolin spent 50% of the season all injured thanks to the insane tackling. I cant even risk them as much anymore when trying to dribble through defenders because they try to take them out And if that's not enough to go insane about heres another thing, now this has happened a couple of times, but on the their return game, when they are finally healthy and the nightmarish injury has healed.......guess what??? They get their asses sacked and injured again LOL!! Another 2-3 weeks, amazing!!! Time to switch the goddam lineup again!!! Im seriosuly going insane....

P.S. The perfect lineup from the 1st game in the season was the only time i have seen my whole team complete, i have yet to see the day when i will see my best players play together again......

 

[ugluk]

yo that sucks. it's a matter of luck tho.

one of my most crucial players has C injury resistance. got injured twice in a season for a total duration of 3 weeks. One of those weeks was a rest-day (no game), so he missed two games only.

haven't had problems with injuries myself.

 

[TristanAbbott7]

So basically you have the equivalent of Darren Anderton, Jonathan Woodgate and Harry Kewell on your team! Injury prone bastards!

 

[snakeranyking]

if you all saw his post he bought a 40 year old attacker and a bunch of wek young players so zola os weak couse of his age and the other's to cous of age you will have to manage untill thay are strong enough

 

[Gnidrologist]

I dunno, I checked injury resistance for all players I bought and also the stats like body balance, consistency and so on. They all were different and I can't agree to the poster who said they are ''weak'' or whatever. Just an average joes. Now I wonder why default bastards never get injured, they are of various ages and injury prone aswell, but nor the young Dodo or old minanada NEVER cought an injury. Well that's probably scripted.
Anyway, young or not I think it's insane to have 2 injuries per match and 5 injured players on the bench permanently as I have it now. There's one player from these youngsters (forgot the name) who gets injured EVERY TIME he gets on the field. I mean he catches an injury, goes for 2-3 weeks resting then he comes back on field and he gets injured in that very same match again. And it was like this for 5 times already!!! Can you imagine that?
As for old geezers like Zola I could undersand this kind of phenomena, but for youngsters I think it's not right. It's as if game would suggest me to not use them on such high level yet, sent them to farm league, ''they're young, they have to learn and get fitter, please don't exploit them so much''. Unfortunately I don't have a youth team where I could utilize them.
Guess I will have to buy some 25-28 yer olds to actually play the master league with half decent team.

 

[Y2K]

Do you guys even regulate their conditions?

 

[NYCDynamix]

Do you guys even regulate their conditions?

Barely, i only regulate thier conditions if i see that my tops players have a blue downwards arrow, even so i barely even do it too because they could end up with a total downside grey arrow instead of a normal green,orange or red which you would obviously expect.

Regulating conditions is a risk to me, u dont know what the result could be at all, so i rather not take my chances at all if i see that all my players have a green arrow...good enough for me.

 

[Gnidrologist]

What condition has to do with getting two injured players every match?

 

[niceman]

Gynecologist I always enjoy reading posts like this one...man i cant help laughing when i hear u buy Messi and then he gets injured for 14 weeks...am I evil?

 

[Y2K]

Barely, i only regulate thier conditions if i see that my tops players have a blue downwards arrow, even so i barely even do it too because they could end up with a total downside grey arrow instead of a normal green,orange or red which you would obviously expect.

Regulating conditions is a risk to me, u dont know what the result could be at all, so i rather not take my chances at all if i see that all my players have a green arrow...good enough for me.

That's the problem!
If you have some decent players, regulating makes them last longer. I know what u mean by the low arrows u may get but it makes the whole team last longer with only a few unfit after a long while.

 

[night]

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Now every time I see a tackle comes in it makes me want to scream. Please not an injury.. not this time..pleeease...

Definately have to agree with you there, it makes me nervous everytime the CPU comes in with a tackle, hoping that it won't be an injury.. And most of the time it's those key players who get injured

 

[simakperrce]

Playing with Inter (the "real" team) in League mode on 6 stars and i seem to get at least one player injured per game. it's a joke. Veron gets injured, needs to pause 6 weeks, goes on the pitch for 10 minutes and gets injured again. Also Figo and Cambiasso a lot. At some point I had 4 invalids in my team. soemtimes i get 2 players per game sent off with injuries. Of course, none of the CPU players are ever carded.

 

[niceman]

I wanna bitch a bit too:

Im playing on 6* stars with PSG...it was 0-0 i was 1-1 with keeper and suddenly last defender jumps in and saw my player into 2 pieces...YES i got the penalty!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...no red card for the retard...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i failed to score the penalty...i lost 1-0 in the end i was ready to smash gamepad and neighbour (the bitch deserves it!)

BTW not even police was called by ref to solve the murder comitted on the pitch!

 

[Gnidrologist]

This is insane, for ****'s sake!!!
I just had 4 (!!) players injured in one match. Can you beat that? Not to mention that I had already 5 yellow and one red guy on the bench, now it makes them 10!! Can you imagine that, 10 people injured, it's half of my squad. It forces me to go as far as puting defenders in the attcking positions and forwards in defence (depends on who's available).

Wtf has Konami been smoking when making this new injury/fatigue system?! It's not that often in real football that two players have to be substituted because of an injury, but in Pes5 I got ATL LEAST two players down per match. Four players in one match??!! That has to be some kind of fistfights involved between two teams to have four players unable to continue.

Ok, now to play Roma in WEFA cup with Xavi as my striker.

 

[Gnidrologist]

 

[Gnidrologist]

 

[Gnidrologist]

Nice, eh. Now it's 12 victims.
i think I'm going mad. :Bow: :mexican: :Carlos*o:




PS.
Oh and don't hate me because of all the stars and classic players in there, I just like to create kinda classic Barca team in my usual ML. And besides, it's almost necessary to have lots of equaly good players considering that only 1/3 of them are available at a particular given time (not injured/drained/bad arrow).