Individuell Numbers on Kits !

[BolzerMike]

what about alowing teams to have different graphics for domestic and champions league.

some teams have there own champions leage kits (like liverpool and bayern munich) and it would be great if fifa fx could alternate these kits

and of course the adboards, ball, stadiums graphics, ect change as well


Thats not possible with FifaFX yet, because we dont know wether the next match is season or cup ...

If you want to enjoy the FULL ChampionsLeague I recommend the great Patch from http://europeanclubs.host.sk/ !!!



More ideas from me:

I think it is possible to change the music when the game is actually loading. (haven't tried it, but should be able to do so). Maybe we can change the loading music to something like a football programme music, so that it sounds as if it is building up towards a real-life coverage of a football match. This woould of course go with the TV popups....

Another idea:

To go with the TV popups during the game, I think it would be extremely nice if we can have TV programme layout even in-between matches, i.e. TV-style layout to show league tables, top goalscorer, other stats etc However, this idea (I think) is only possible in a league patch and not a team one?


I already tried to change the loop.bnk-files which include the loading-musics, but unfortunately it didnt work and I just gave it up

A complete TV-Sports-Design would be great
Of course thats just an editing thingy and not a technical problem.

You make the design and I will make the scripts to import it




To Alenitchev and all the guys here : the font used by Nike for lettering and numbering is Handel Gothic Compress D Light. If someone owns it, please let us know


Thats a nice font, do you have the ttf-file and would you like to make the numbers ? Its just a 10 minutes job I guess !



Heres a screenie showing the original back-numbers from german Hamburger SV (design by bounty).
You can see another feature of the upcoming final batches too:

Individual armbands for HOME and AWAY-Teams

 

[KayCee]

WoW sieht einfach genial aus...

Freu mich schon auf das FX Update...

einfach genial

I search the serpentine medium font... i want to make adidas numbers

Could anybody send me this font per eMail,please??

[email protected]

THX

 

[ganengjdead]

Hier ist ein link, um das Serpentine font zu bekommen : http://ben.ursux.com/fonts/index.php?c=s&pt=ABC123&z=148

(please excuse my spelling, my deutsch isn't really good as you can see )

And, please, if someone has got this font: Handel Gothic Compress D Light, send it to [email protected] . Thx

 

[SlayeR]

Yep. If someone has this font please UPLOAD it somewhere and give the link. To avoid more requests of sending

 

[scouser09]

will this do

 

[SlayeR]

well, it's NOT EXACTLY the needed font but it is VERY VERY SIMILAR... Please, upload it and give a link... Anyway the numbers I have already and the letter of this font will be SURELY useful to write names...

P.S. thanx in advance

 

[JJ]

Re: Individuell Numbers on Kits !

Originally posted by BolzerMike
Any suggestions for further FifaFX-features are also very welcome.

I had an idea to let some teams wear their third kit in league games like they do in real life.

Because the program knows which two teams would be playing next, I was wondering if it was possible to allow teams to wear third kits in league season mode, by checking which team is the home, and then installing the third kit for the away team in place of the current away kit.

For example, if the next match is Arsenal v Man U, then for that match Man U would wear their blue third kit as opposed to their normal white away kit.

At the same time it would fix any kit clashing bugs.

 

[BolzerMike]

thats a good idea, but how should FifaFX know if the kits of the next game are clashing ?


To make this idea work I guess we had to add a check-file with the name of the colours of the home and away-team jerseys.

Than FifaFX could compare these check-files and in case of equal colours the 3rd kit would be used... ?

You thought something like this ? Or do you have another idea how to solve this ?

 

[JJ]

I doubt it needs to check if the kits are clashing, because that's decided by the colours set for the teams in the DBI's I guess.

In my example, if I played Arsenal v Man U, then Man U would play in their white away kit in FIFA 2002 (in friendly or season mode), as Arsenal's kit doesn't have a setting that determines that it is a secondary colour clashing kit. But in real life, Man U always wear their third kit (blue) at Arsenal.

However, if you play Sunderland v Man U, then Sunderland would play in their away kit at home, because their kit filename (jh00106.fsh) has an internal secondary colour clashing bit to it.

In some cases, teams whose home kits clash with the home team's kit, doesn't wear their away kit - e.g. if I play Newcastle v Leeds in FIFA 2002, Leeds turn up in yellow, yet in real life, they wear white, oddly enough.

But what I thought, using FIFAfx, when the game is saved, it checks which two teams are playing, and so it checks the away team property to see which team is home, before it decides to either keep the away kit or install the third kit.

Sorry to sound confusing

 

[Hercules]

I've written a script that randomly installs 3rd kit over the away kit, but it doesn't check for colour clashes. So, that's pretty useless, on hindsight, but it does allows the use of the 3rd kit from time to time, rather than not using it at all.

And jj, your idea is very interesting, but what I think it's rather too complicated for too little effect. From now and then again, the odd colour clash is not too annoying, and to avoid them, I think FIFAfx would then need to read files at bit level, which means new commands need to be incoporated into the FIFAfx engine, otherwise FIFAfx can't run internally, and running it externally is very slow.

I think we should leave that idea for FIFA 2003. since EA would never include any third kits......

 

[BolzerMike]

Originally posted by Hercules
I've written a script that randomly installs 3rd kit over the away kit, but it doesn't check for colour clashes. So, that's pretty useless, on hindsight, but it does allows the use of the 3rd kit from time to time, rather than not using it at all.

And jj, your idea is very interesting, but what I think it's rather too complicated for too little effect. From now and then again, the odd colour clash is not too annoying, and to avoid them, I think FIFAfx would then need to read files at bit level, which means new commands need to be incoporated into the FIFAfx engine, otherwise FIFAfx can't run internally, and running it externally is very slow.

I think we should leave that idea for FIFA 2003. since EA would never include any third kits......

Im already working on a all new solution, where all teams get j*00001.fsh assigned !


Each team will have its kits in the teams-folders.
There will be subfolders for Cup- und UCL-Files (stadiums, kits, ...)


This will enable

- 3rd kits
- individual Cup-kits
- individual UCL-kits
- individual armbands (home and away, season, cup, UCL)
- individual kitnumbers (home and away, season, Cup, UCL)

and avoid colour clashing because I added some check-files that enable comparing colours of Home and Away-team


It will be possible to import all the special UCL- or CUP-files during the season




If anybody has an FCDB-World-Roster or would like to create this within the next days, this would be great, for Im still working on the FifaFX2002/2003 Final Patch including all this awesome features.







If you have suggestions for an algorithm when 3rd kits should be installed (every 3rd match or something...?) Im still open !

 

[Hercules]

That sounds absolutely brilliant!!!

I just have another idea:

Would it be possible to have the away goalkeeper kit installed only when the away kit is wore, (same with 3rd goalie kit).

I have another idea (but slightly complicated):

How about making the winter patch coming up more random, let's say we can assign a number out of 10 for a team, 0 means winter patch is never installed for a team, and 5 means the winter patch is installed once every 2 matches, and 10 means the winter patch is installed always. This would mean that we could assign different ratings for each team, according to how likely it is going to snow, like Brazil National Team will have a rating 0, and teams like Rosenborg has a high rating. I suppose we can store this rating as a file, simply with a name x.num, where num is the fixed extension so FIFAfx can check what the number is. Then the number can be read and then we can create a counter file, and increment it on every load of that team. And when the number is appropriate (according to the rating), then winter patch is installed.

Bit far-fetched, but I think this is possible.

If this could be done, this would be great.

 

[BolzerMike]

Would it be possible to have the away goalkeeper kit installed only when the away kit is wore, (same with 3rd goalie kit).

The away-goalie-kit will actually only be installed when the Team is AWAY and and there is a keeper_away.fsh -kit inside the teamfolder.

I have no 3rd-kit for goalies implemented yet, but I can do of course if its necessary. Only when the team is AWAY or when should it be used ?


I thought about implementing the Winter-Patch too, but there are 2 major problems:


1. Some bigger Stadiums use the pit**.rav -polygons even for the stadiums structure. So these stadiums would be damaged when I import a different pit. (possible solution would be to create a subfolder called WINTER with the special Winter-pit and graphics inside.



2. I guess a snowy pit shouldnt be installed in September
I have no idea how to solve this as I cant read the date out of the Userfiles

A possible solution would be to choose the snowy-pit manually same like the UCL or CUP matches.
So that if you see its December you leave the game with the Num-Block-key and install the Winter-pit.

I will think about it


Anyway, good suggestions

 

[Yj]

bolzer, is there any new solutions or options to enable separate kit sturctures?

i'm still hoping there's a possibility to this, so Kappa will have skin tight etc....

another option is ball?

League ball, ECL ball, Winter ball ..?

 

[Ashley Cole]

I think it would be better if the away gk kit was only used when the player away kit was used, as this is what real-life teams do, not have one for playing at home and one for playing away. Otherwise, everything else is cool, the cup and CL kits is an excellent idea

 

[scouser09]

what if there was a file in each team folder saying which kits they wear to matches. fifa fx could read this so you get the exact kits you want. the named kit could be wrote over the home and away kits to ensure that fifa uses the correct kit for both teams.

eg
for liverpool:

arsenal (h)
-player home
-gk home

arsenal (a)
-player away
-gk away

ac milan (h)
-player cl
-gk away

ac milan (a)
-player 3rd
-gk 3rd

im not sure how you could script it thought you seem to be good at it

 

[Hercules]

Another idea:

As FIFA 2002 doesn't support player-specific hair styles, how about installing hair styles for players for a particular team using FIFAfx. This means that at least the hair styles can be team-specific, rather than installed permanently as we have to do at the moment. This of course can cause a few problems when home and away have the same hair file, but this would at least be better than what we've got.

 

[ganengjdead]

Maybe it has already been said, but it would be nice if FifaFX could load a speficic kit if you play against a specific team. For example, last year PSG had a black kit which they only wore versus Marseille.
This would really be cool!

 

[Catalinc7]

It will be compatible with this formula: FifaFX+4gk kits+ All the stadiums (especially those who use extra t-pages or like MU's OT Century )+ The new features?

 

[J. Adamec]

Our idea:
In CzechSuperPatch we use specific captain's armbands and keeper's gloves for home team.
In new version will be 2 away fans banners (bvis.fsh/0000 -= bvi1 and bvis.fsh/0001 = bvi2)