Is the Dutch speed skating coach right about American athletes?

[Mus]

Viduka was captain, not Neill.

In any case it was a bad challenge, but it was also a dive. The challenge made no contact until Grosso wanted it to.

The French penalty also wasn't in the final seconds of stoppage time. Plenty of non-Australian pundits agreed it was a very rough call. In football referees are generally very hard on Australia, simply because we have a reputation of being very physical.

And the referees have been easy on italians post calciopoli?

 

[Alex]

And the referees have been easy on italians post calciopoli?

No, but relative to Australia they have. Not just one or two big decisions, you watch us play any side - even Asian ones, and anything that looks slightly physical is given a foul against us - regardless of whether a foul is warranted or who was at fault. Has been that way for a long time.

 

[Mus]

Yes but when an italian goes down in the box the first thought is not penalty

 

[Alex]

I'd suggest you're showing much more bias here than me

 

[Mus]

Why then wasn't it a penalty? Neill slid, missed the ball made contact with the leg of grosso and impeded his path to the ball and caused him to trip

 

[Alex]

He didn't make contact. Grosso saw Neill go down tapped the ball past, took the fall.

 

[Mus]

It certainly looked like he made contact which is what matters

 

[yoyo913]

The Australian made a mistake and Grosso capitalized on it.

 

[Alex]

The Australian made a mistake and Grosso capitalized on it.

Yep, spot on.

But if that in the final seconds of Italy vs Brazil, or Italy vs France, or Italy vs Netherlands etc it's play on

 

[Mus]

You really think so? I think in full speed it looks a penalty 99/100 times.

 

[newbie original]

..So the Dutch speed skating coach went off on America yesterday and seemed to vent his frustrations about Americans thinking we are the best at everything and we only stay in our own little world so we have no competition.

Just curious what people's opinions are on this topic....

That is true of so many countries.

The British specialize in darts. Few other countries care about darts.

Scotland and Canada care about curling. South Africa or Argentina does not.

 

[Mus]

In terms of funding, no they do not.

 

[Alex]

That is true of so many countries.

The British specialize in darts. Few other countries care about darts.

Scotland and Canada care about curling. South Africa or Argentina does not.

The hacker returns

 

[newbie original]

The hacker returns

I will take that as "you agree".

By "that", I mean your lack of a negation.

 

[Filipower]

Damn, I start reading a nice thread about speed skating and end up crying with memories of 2004. Fuck you guys.

 

[DaTopDawg]

I'm American and is used to stuff like this and people ranting about how arrogant we are. They don't just say that about our sports athletes they say the same thing about our politicians, movie stars, musicians, ect. These people are bashing our country as a whole period.

Though I see it regularly on youtube comments and facebook pages it is starting to get annoying. Honestly I don't know what the beef is. Just let us be. I'm starting to think some of these people care more about us than their own country. Yeah that sounds arrogant but they must be following our pro athletes, politicians, musicians, movies stars than their own for them to put the focal point on us..

 

[Sir Didier Drogba]

Canada certainly is.

 

[jschuck12001]

I'm American and is used to stuff like this and people ranting about how arrogant we are. They don't just say that about our sports athletes they say the same thing about our politicians, movie stars, musicians, ect. These people are bashing our country as a whole period.

Though I see it regularly on youtube comments and facebook pages it is starting to get annoying. Honestly I don't know what the beef is. Just let us be. I'm starting to think some of these people care more about us than their own country. Yeah that sounds arrogant but they must be following our pro athletes, politicians, musicians, movies stars than their own for them to put the focal point on us..

I see your points, I really don't think most give a crap about what we do unless they are ultra-political or have a shit load of money.

The only thing that ever bothered me is when people from other countries say "you don't know how good you have it in the USA", but when I'm patriotic and say I live in the best country in the world they turn around and call me arrogant.

 

[Bobby]

Jealous of our freedoms.

 

[Mus]

Google image search patriotism, then compare the number of american associated images to other nationalities