Just Tried Fifa World Cup 2006 and...

[The_Knight]

Sa33ood basha... I tried to read ur review with an objective mind, but I've never read such a messed up comparison between Fifa and PES in my entire life.

In the other hand, FIFA 06 perfectly simulates the real world soccer action, either by sound effects graphical effects or with realism of game style.

U hit thru pass... one-on-one with the goal....GOAL.
hit thru pass... one-on-one with the goal....GOAL.
hit thru pass... one-on-one with the goal....GOAL.
hit thru pass... one-on-one with the goal....GOAL.

This is Fifa.
And do u call "graphical effects" a real soccer simulation?

I've done some tests on how long dose the ball fly and how the ball falls down in both games, compared both games to real soccer matches recorded on the internet, and the results are way to far from each other; FIFA beats PES by flying colors! Don't believe me? do the tests by your self.

Yes, in Fifa the ball SLIDES between players in embarassingly high speeds.
In Fifa, the ball ROCKETS out of players foots stright to the hands of the goalpkeepers.

If this were a pinball game, I....still wudn't call it realistic.

When my friends come to my house and try to play FIFA 06 the first thing they say is "The game is too slow",

They must have been sarcastic ya akh sa3d....
It's a well known FACT that Fifa is a pinball game wit lightening dribbling, passing and shooting. And that PES5 is so slow some gamers were starting to complain.

Even if they change the formation and strategies, they do that only because they read about it somewhere, in other words changing formation and strategies in PES is just like a cheat code, hens the word "Arcade" like, in arcade games you do some exact moves and you'll 90% of the time get the same actions, the same applies to PES 5, for example, when you commit a free kick on particular way, you will always, an I mean ALWAYS (99% of the time) get what you want

The actual OPPOSITE is what's true.
In Fifa you can score all your goals the exact same way (or from 3 ways to be exact).
And when I say 'same' I mean IDENTICAL.

Whereas in PES, its jus like the real game. No 2 goals r alike, even if u try to score 2 identical goals.

"EA Sports is doing a Marvelous job in simulating the soccer game", I mean Player actions, ball physics

Even Fifa fanboys ADMIT that the ball physics SUCK. And the player animations are a joke, and the goals are totally devoid of any sense of satisfaction.

Sa3d, ana begad.... really, I'm starting to doubt ur playing PES but titled Fifa06... and vice versa.
I mean nobody could get a comparison THAT wrong... I'm talking 100% the opposite. 180 degrees.....

 

[lfcmalta]

I want from the PES fans to at least try the FIFA game for 1 week, don't try it for one game and say "oh slow", no, play it for one week and I can assure you that you are going to get "Addicted" to it; try out the FIFA World Cup 2006

Ok I only tried FIFA world Cup 2006 once, only 1 game because I said it is not worth it & I know the game isn't good. I started a season on FIFA 2006 with WIGAN and at first it was easy so I put the level up but still it was easy, so I put the level up again but still I was winning with a comfortable margin because you get used to FIFA and you get to know what to do to score.

When I played like 20 games and had like 1 loss I got bored and thanks GOD FIFA HAVE "SIMULATE MATCH" so I simulated the matches and still won the league "hurray"... boring, and that's why PES5 doesn't have "SIMULATE" - its not needed.

 

[sa33ood]

Mr. The_Knight, it's so clear that you have some kind of a weird stubbornness in which has totally gotten into your mind to the point that you had to say that my review is missed up, I mean be serious man, anyone can say that even your dull answers where "messed up" too, at least I believe so. and I have never scene such weird opinions like yours in my intire life. see how simple talking is.

Anyways, what you are trying to say is that PES is so evolved that it invents its own command lines on its own super-amazing way and give you super-different situations every single time; I think that you must go learn something about games, my friend.

All games are always going to be the same. PES is also exactly what you claimed to FIFA, I mean exactly; pass, pass, shoot, goal. every time it's the same for me and many others. PES is fast, wither you like it or not, it's a fact about PES. don't argue about this a lot, because you'll always be wrong.

So you think that a ball rocketing from a players leg to the goalie's hands is pinball... hahahaha, go watch some real soccer games, then come back and talk; Do not claim the stuff you say depending on PES, just don't do it, you are actually embarrassing your self my friend.

I know my friends very well, and you just come out of no where saying that they are sarcastic, dude, stop being a loser, I really laughed hard after reading this sentence, haha, oh my god...

See, a small thing that you, apparently, do not understand about the FIFA game architecture is that each move was made with it's own AI codes in order to have different angles and speeds each time a move is committed, in other words, when you shoot, the players' movement is always different, but the human eye can't See that difference so clear, because the frames are fast. I assure you that I have scored goals using many new moves in FIFA more than the number of moves used in PES; and I also assure you that PES is arcade-ich.

I have even read about 7 or 10 reviews over the net on PES, and all of these reviews clearly state how stupid is the angle turn system in PES is; I mean come on, since when dose the player in real world turn in a 45 degree angle whenever he intends to change direction?! In FIFA you can have 45, 30, even 20 degrees angle twist, which makes the game more realistic and right.

I have even watched more than 20+ videos on video.google.com website on PES fans showing off their skills. Guess what was so funny!? The funny thing is that all of these so-cool players where showing off the same exact moves, which means that whenever you learn a couple of tricks in PES you'll eventually become a good player, just like in Street Fighters, you learn some combos and yapee, you are number one... In the other hand, anything of this is IMPOSSIBLE in FIFA, why?? because they try to imitate real world movements, in which no move is the same, and even if Ronaldinho dose his flip flop in front of a goal keeper, this doesn't mean that the keeper will always get fooled like in PES... I swear that every time I do the dummy shot on PES in front of the goalie, he jumps like an idiot; you can easily feel the controlled and dull environment of doing these tricks, so programed and so lifeless; hit a button and the move will always happen the same, so here we go back to the term "Arcade"... In FIFA each time is a different situation and reaction from everyone, sometimes the players stumble, and sometimes the keepers don't get fooled; Real World, my friend.

The ball physics and players movements have been really fixed to a very good level after the release of FIFA World Cup 2006, and no soccer game can come even close to this level of perfectness.

No need for doubts ya 7abibi. I'm 100% sure that I've played PES 5, and still playing it with friends; the original version, on PS2 and Xbox, no difference at all, same arcade feel, and even the "PES fanboys" think that PES is arcade like.

So, go find another place to nag and jump like a kid talking about a game, or at least be serious and always keep it real. just keep it real.

Peace!

 

[Kibe Kru]

Why is it that we're comparing a game that was just released with one that was released one year ago? Wouldn't it be better to compare WC 06 to WE10 (Pes 6?)

 

[sa33ood]

Kibe Kru, how do you want us to compare PES 6 while it's still not out? We don't even know how it looks like.

My whole point is that FIFA World Cup 2006 has evolved soooo much better than older FIFA releases, which deserves at least a notice. People around here keep saying that FIFA in general sucks, which doesn't make any sense. I mean each game has its pros and cons, that's all.

And let us take 2 PES fans and compare what they said:

1. lfcmalta said:

...so I simulated the matches and still won the league "hurray"... boring, and that's why PES5 doesn't have "SIMULATE" - its not needed.

2. The_Knight said:

...And do u call "graphical effects" a real soccer simulation?

If you compare both statements anyone would clearly see how lfcmalta believes that FIFA has soccer simulation feel in it while PES doesn't have soccer simulation, because he thinks it's not needed!! And Mr. The_Knight thinks that FIFA has no simulation!!! that's so clear in the sarcastic way he added the question.

So, 2 PES fans in the same forum in the same day, both believe that FIFA is and is not a soccer simulation game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a typical PES fans' argument; stubborness, clueless, and no sense at all.

Guys, you must at least be real and admit that both games has their goods and bads, and each game is a different type, that's why we have different fan bases, simple. so don't run around saying that "FIFA sucks", or "PES is cool", talk in a grown up way, where you discuss what's bad and good in a clear way, and never base everything on one aspect of a game, people who work on these titles are not producing games just for you to come up and say that a game sucks due to you winning 20 games in a row, soccer is about feeling, authenticity and realism, not taking the ball and running to the goalie then giving him a dummy move or an over-loop every friggin single time you are one on one with him!

Peace!

 

[Kibe Kru]

Well, I meant that if WC 06 is such an improvement over Fifa 06, then we should at least wait for PES6 to have a decent comparison.

Also, lfcmalta meant that he simulated the matches - he didn't play because it wouldn't matter if he won or lost, he had won the title already so he just let the coimputer "calculate" the results. That is different than saying Fifa is or isn't a simulation game. Lfcmalta said in PES there's no such a thing as let the computer play the matches for you. The Knight said that just because one game has pretty graphics it doesn't mean it's a good simulation of the football game. You missed both points and took a bad conclusion.

 

[deftonesmx17]

Did I read some of that right?

So its realistic that every coach in the real world of football only has a few standard formation options like in FIFA. That they only have four actions to take during attack and four actions to take during defense as in FIFA. No, in the real world you would be able to actually do major changes like in PES/WE. Having 4 quick-set options(FIFA) would be the arcade-ish thing to do. In PES you can set attacking patterns for individual players like a real world football coach does. Can you do this in FIFA? No. In PES you can set players where you want on the field, just like a real world coach would do. Your statement about changing formation options in PES makes it arcade-ish as its like a cheat code is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. According to that thought process, every real world football coach that made a major formation change, attack change, defense change, etc; and came through to win a match.............."used cheat codes".


Just some FYI, FIFA only has 8 directional movements just like PES. Watch the video and count.
http://media.putfile.com/FIFA-moving
Why look at that, it took 8 turns to make a 360.....................Yup, every turn in FIFA is also a 45 degree turn.

I don't just own PES5 and play FIFA 06 at a friends and think that makes me have an objective opinion. At this very moment, I have FIFA 2002, FIFA 2003, FIFA 2004, FIFA 2005, FIFA 06, FIFA 06 WC, PES3, PES4, PES5, and WE9LE.

 

[The_Knight]

All games are always going to be the same. PES is also exactly what you claimed to FIFA, I mean exactly; pass, pass, shoot, goal. every time it's the same for me and many others. PES is fast, wither you like it or not, it's a fact about PES. don't argue about this a lot, because you'll always be wrong.

PES is fast????
hold on a sec....
PES FIVE is fast???
wait a bit....
PES5 is FAST in comparison to Fifa???

Not only are you saying that, you're even calling it a "fact"... and u've based you're argument on a 'don't argue with me' basis.... That's solid.

The fact is, Fifa's gameplay is hillarious. The lobs are hillarious, the gliding ice-hockey passes are hillarious, and the precision of passes is hillarious too.

The ease of scoring goals in FIFA is A JOKE. Go to EA's site and download thir 'hand-picked' goals.... now compare them to the lousiest goals on PES.... is there EVEN a comparison?

I mean come on, since when dose the player in real world turn in a 45 degree angle whenever he intends to change direction?! In FIFA you can have 45, 30, even 20 degrees angle twist, which makes the game more realistic and right.

Correction. Actually 2.

1) So you've never seen many 45 degree turns in real soccer.... interesting. Walla3o el-television ba2a.

2) Just because you can't dribble properly, doesn't mean that the game is deficient.

For a 15 degree turn in PES, hold SHIFT+R1 while running and tap the directional pad once.
For a 30 degree turn hold R1 and tap the directional pad once.
For a 45 degree turn tap forward+direction without R1 or R2

You see, in PES, the ability to turn while running is dependable on the speed of the player. This is called clever realistic programming. It's called the addition of realistic variables to the game to create an accurate simulation.

See, a small thing that you, apparently, do not understand about the FIFA game architecture is that each move was made with it's own AI codes in order to have different angles and speeds each time a move is committed, in other words, when you shoot, the players' movement is always different, but the human eye can't See that difference so clear, because the frames are fast.

It's almost as if in PES the players shooting animation, shooting accuracy, and shooting power isn't dependant on the angle of his body in relation to the goal

....for about 4 years.....

I can't believe someone is giving Fifa the upper hand in animations!!!

I have even read about 7 or 10 reviews over the net on PES, and all of these reviews clearly state how stupid is the angle turn system in PES is;

Yanhar iswid.
Man you think that PES reviewers compare the game to FIFA???? They compare it to real soccer, to a previous PES, to an expected PES... but not to FIFA!.... Last time they played Fifa was in 1998 back when the game was actually worth paying for.

That desperate? Taking a PES review to promote for Fifa's crappy programming?

and even if Ronaldinho dose his flip flop in front of a goal keeper, this doesn't mean that the keeper will always get fooled like in PES...

Not true at all...
The flip-flap only rarely works on keepers. You clearly don't play the game (at least not on 6*) and just watch videos.

And wait a sec, is that bad AS COMPARED to Fifa's press 1 button, do a fancy circus trick and beat all players with it trick move?

Unbelievable.

In FIFA each time is a different situation and reaction from everyone, sometimes the players stumble, and sometimes the keepers don't get fooled; Real World, my friend.

isn't there a smiley that stares in amazement, then shoots itself?
ummm....was that Fifa ur talking about? ya sure?
even Fifafanboys don't go THAT far.... I'm starting to think EA is paying you... or holding someone hostage. Is there like a secret code embedded in ur posts.. regarding your whereabouts and captivity circumstances? Like the whole "I can hear the train pass by every 5 mins.. I must be near a station... in one of EA's buildings.."

Sorry but everytime I read 'Fifa' and 'Real World' in the same sentence is often in a sarcastic sense... I havent dealt with it in the serious meaning b4...

talk in a grown up way

C'mon we're talking about 2 computer games... if we bring in charts and graphs it won't get any more 'grown up'...

Sa3ood yabny.... Fifa really sucks. It does.
PES (with all its flaws) is the closest soccer simulation on the market with a GIANT step ahead of its competitors... if they can be called that.

 

[danny_a]

The reason why 'the switch' is difficult, is because PES5 is much more difficult a game to play than FIFA.

I'm sorry, I don't normally argue about this, but this is complete bull. I've played fifa all my life; lagrely because i don't have a console... however this year i played pes5 and it took me a grand total of maybe 4, 5 games before i was on 4 star (i mean i'm unbeatable on that).

PES5 is not a hard game at ALL. Its a hell of an enjoyable game. But ultimately, people put that down to realism... thats not it at all. e.g. the players are practically acrobats in pes5... the way i can do lightning fast 180 degree turns with the ball is absolutely ridiculous... but it adds a new dimension to the gameplay, so i don't bitch and moan about it.

frankly pes5 is a far better play, but NOT because its really difficult, and NOT because it is more 'realistic'... but simply because a.)some unrealistic moves, especially dribbling add a new dimension b.)unlike fifa, there isn't a very obvious pet way of scoring; though i have to say, that is largely because you're completely dependent on cpu controlled player runs in pes5, so you have to knock the ball about and that lends to new ways to score.

ultimately, wc2006 is a pretty decent game, i'm playhing it, i enjoy it. no doubt once the newness wears off, i'll go back to pes5... but believe me, before pes fanboys become smug, FIFA is not THAT far behind. its jsut got the 'balance' (for want of a better word) of a few thigns wrong, and if it gets that right it could very easily leave pes in the dust

 

[krylosz]

Hi guys.

I've been playing PES since PES3. Rigt now I'm working at the IBC in Munich and there are a couple of XBOX 360s standing around with WC2006 running. I didn't play PES for a couple of month and was as unbiased as possible. I really wanted to give this game a chance, as it's the only thing to do when there's no work around. Especially after I tried FIFA06 this year and in my first game the CPU shoots, misses the goal by at least 10 metres and the goal animation starts playing!! WTF! I was shocked, amazed and without speech for like 5 minutes! I had to watch the replay like 30 times to believe it! CPU scores shooting the ball into the crowd! I uninstalled it immediately.

So back to present. I really wanted to give WC006 a chance and have now played some 40 games, mostly against work mates. And I have come tzo my definite and final conclusion: FIFA sucks big time!

Passing is a real joke, it makes me want to rip the controllers off the XBOX. Me and my mates only very very seldom manage to get the ball where we want it to be, on passes that a 10 year old could pull off! And your CPU teamamtes never ever manage to strip off defenders, they won't follow you upfield and generally never even try to get their a**es in some free space and strip off their defenders.
And ball physics are a joke! And the guy who timed the hang time of the ball and therefore concluded that ball physics in FIFA are great is plain wrong! I mean it's great that the ball flies the right amount of time, but the angle and everything else on his fly pattern are as far from the flight of a real ball as anything. I wonder how anyone could code anything as unreal as that! I mean you have to be really determined to find a ball flight algorithm that is as far from reality as this. Especially as some 10th grade physics would be enough to make it looke better

It's amazing that the ball flight in the very first FIFA (94 I think that is) looks far more real than the one in 06! I think that's the price you pay if canadiens develop a soccer game I mean I wouldn't want an American football game developed by chinese developers

And the goals scored look way to good. Today I played Germany vs. England against a buddy and won 6:1. I admit that his defense was awful, but of those 7 goals 6 would have made every World Cup highlights show. 5 were perfectly placed in the top right and left corners of the goal. And those came from the first 10 shots. That's way too much and really not satisfying. If I hit one of those in PES I'm really proud and it feels great, but in FIAF that's the norm. That's boring! One shot, one goal, two shots two goals! Even from real bad positions. I hate that. It should generally be much harder to score goals!

And another thing: The few games I played against the CPU were really sickening! I tried to figure out what the CPU wanted to do when in possession, but I had no chance at all. He gets the ball, makes two steps forward, turns around makes one back, 2 right, 1 forward, 3 left, 5 forward, 1 back, 2 left, 3 right, 4 back, ........ ???

After a couple of minutes into the games I usually gave up trying to tackle him and did nothing. The fun thing: I even let go of the controller and just stood there. Nothing changed. With 10 metres space the CPU did not advance at all, he just continued running around aimlessly, changing directions every second. The screen wobbled so much left, right, up and down that I really got sick. I'm not joking or exaggerating!

The only 2 good points I found are the graphics (naturally on a XBOX 360) and the licencing.

After I got fed up with WC2006 I got myself the WC patch from Socceraccess and fired up PES5 the first time in 5 months. I was again blown away by the amazing gameplay and ball physics. It's not perfect, as I think that e.g. passing is too easy and goalkeepers could be way better, but overal it's the better game by far!

 

[Napoleonic_sp00]

FIFA RTWC98 is the best FIFA, the others just suck balls , hell even that is only on par with WE3 Final Evolution in term of "fun/realism" ratio!

todays WE/PES is just much closer to realism than FIFA, yes even with those annoying referees in PES5.

PES/WE have better realism in movement, ball physic and land pass, in FIFA players feel more like robotic and have no weights, and the worst of all, the goals are pretty much the same, it's just feel weird to score the goals in FIFA.

The only thing I think that FIFA is a bit better than PES/WE is the high ball passing, in PES/WE high ball passing is pretty much sluggish and doesn't help the gameplay much. But in FIFA althrough it is better than WE/PES the overall gameplay just doesn't support it.

 

[The_Knight]

I agree Fifa RTWC'98 was simply great. From there it was only downhill, starting with Fifa'99 being pinball soccer.

However, one nice thing about FIFA, that I've missed in PES, is that fact that EVERY YEAR the Fifa game had significantly better AND different graphics than the Fifa of the year before.

Fifa'99 was different than Fifa'98.
Fifa'2000 was a totally new look.
Fifa'2001 was much much much better and more different than any other Fifa.
Fifa'2002 was like a totally dfferent game than 2001.
Fifa'2003 looked amazing and again, a totally different game.

I left Fifa between 04-05..... when I realized Fifa wasn't even close to a soccer game.

In PES/WE... every year it's the same Menus, the same players, the same pitch and the same camera view. PES4-PES5-PES6.... check them out. The games are identical.

By the way, the High thru passing in PES/WE is just perfect. Play with England vs Brazil and -using the write timing, half-way thru the game Owen and Rooney will be 1-on-1 with Dida. On the other hand, this is not possible while playing against a tight defense like Classic Italy's.

And from what i heard about WE9LE.... The game's been tuned just right.

 

[Napoleonic_sp00]

By the way, the High thru passing in PES/WE is just perfect. Play with England vs Brazil and -using the write timing, half-way thru the game Owen and Rooney will be 1-on-1 with Dida.

I won't say that is perfect, since you can only do that by passing from behind or your ball will likely taken by GK....does that usually happened in real games? no

 

[The_Knight]

True... the thru lob has to be from behind. However, I guess that in real life, these are the kinds of long thru passes that end up putting you 1-on-1 with the keeper. Very few skilled players can make short-range lob and accurate thru passes....

However, on many occasions, in PES5, you can play a thru lob pass to your running winger.. Looks pretty good.

What I don't like about the CPU here is, in PES5, on 6*, I keep repeating the same tactic that puts my players 1-on-1 with the keeper, and the CPU makes absolutely no effort to change its strategy, or mark my men... not even in the 2nd half etc.

Also, I'm watching the WC matches on TV right now, and the camera view and pitch size is FAR FROM the camera view and pitches on WE/PES.... don't Konami watch soccer on TV?

It's as simple as changing the camera view.

 

[stewart]

i've been a fifa fan for a long time and i have the latest pes game and i can honestly say that fifa ****s all over it. Anyone who thinks that the graphics are better in pes are totally stupid. When they come out onto the ground they are totally robotic. It's good how each player has a their own face but when they look they way they do who cares. There's no actual hair on the player it's just coloured in. For example ronaldinho has no hair. fifa graphics are far superior including the stadiums and the pitches. with ea having the licencing rights it also makes the game hell of a lot better. Logos on players shirts etc makes the game more realistic. i can see why gameplay of pes satifies many but to hold pes over fifa in graphics and gameplay so high is just being an idiot for no reason. And the game modes of fifa. Please pes doesn't even rank with fifa in this department.

 

[lfcmalta]

Well, I meant that if WC 06 is such an improvement over Fifa 06, then we should at least wait for PES6 to have a decent comparison.

Also, lfcmalta meant that he simulated the matches - he didn't play because it wouldn't matter if he won or lost, he had won the title already so he just let the coimputer "calculate" the results. That is different than saying Fifa is or isn't a simulation game. Lfcmalta said in PES there's no such a thing as let the computer play the matches for you. The Knight said that just because one game has pretty graphics it doesn't mean it's a good simulation of the football game. You missed both points and took a bad conclusion.

I couldn't of said it better.
To sa33ood:
And yes both games have there goods and bads & if you read my review on the first page you would have noticed that.

 

[lfcmalta]

I agree Fifa RTWC'98 was simply great. From there it was only downhill, starting with Fifa'99 being pinball soccer.

However, one nice thing about FIFA, that I've missed in PES, is that fact that EVERY YEAR the Fifa game had significantly better AND different graphics than the Fifa of the year before.

Fifa'99 was different than Fifa'98.
Fifa'2000 was a totally new look.
Fifa'2001 was much much much better and more different than any other Fifa.
Fifa'2002 was like a totally dfferent game than 2001.
Fifa'2003 looked amazing and again, a totally different game.

I left Fifa between 04-05..... when I realized Fifa wasn't even close to a soccer game.

In PES/WE... every year it's the same Menus, the same players, the same pitch and the same camera view. PES4-PES5-PES6.... check them out. The games are identical.

By the way, the High thru passing in PES/WE is just perfect. Play with England vs Brazil and -using the write timing, half-way thru the game Owen and Rooney will be 1-on-1 with Dida. On the other hand, this is not possible while playing against a tight defense like Classic Italy's.

And from what i heard about WE9LE.... The game's been tuned just right.

I totally agree with you about the game looking different, you get fed up with PES always being the same not like FIFA they make big changes in the interface every year. If Konami takes care of these small details it would be much better but its like they don't bother. I hope PES6 will be great and the Master League will be improved.

I think the best thing PES5 has is the Master League but it isn't in detail as much as we want it. The transfer system is cool in PES5 but you don't get to do much, you don't know how much the team want for the player or if the player wants to really join you and money should be like real life or maybe closer and you could choose from euros, sterling & dollars just like fm2006. Just additions to be made.
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Ok I think from all the replies here, PES is top by a big margin so we could start talking about what additions we would like to see in PES & in FIFA.

 

[lfcmalta]

i've been a fifa fan for a long time and i have the latest pes game and i can honestly say that fifa ****s all over it. Anyone who thinks that the graphics are better in pes are totally stupid. When they come out onto the ground they are totally robotic. It's good how each player has a their own face but when they look they way they do who cares. There's no actual hair on the player it's just coloured in. For example ronaldinho has no hair. fifa graphics are far superior including the stadiums and the pitches. with ea having the licencing rights it also makes the game hell of a lot better. Logos on players shirts etc makes the game more realistic. i can see why gameplay of pes satifies many but to hold pes over fifa in graphics and gameplay so high is just being an idiot for no reason. And the game modes of fifa. Please pes doesn't even rank with fifa in this department.

Thats what I think, the player graphics in FIFA WC 06 aren't good, this is something that isn't talked much about. The players are really unrealistic and FIFA could be much better if they made the player look real. Yes and the game modes are better & we cant compare them and Konami have to do something about it.

 

[Aston Villain]

I have PES 5, Fifa 06 and 2006FWC. I don't mind PES 5 its a good game. I found that the controls are responsive and you can create some great play. I scored a cracker of a goal from way outside the box and i wish i recorded it, that goal showed me that this game has great diversity and creativity which mean original scoring and play making opportunities.

However, when i got Fif06 on ps2 i left PES 5 and was hooked. But the game was somewhat frustrating because the controls felt out. I still loved the presentation and the thrill of playing as Aston Villa. I switched to XBox and the control issue was better but the ability to create original chances was limited. It gave the feeling that this game is close to being great, but it just seemed to sit under a glass ceiling.

Then i got 2006 Fifa World Cup and man the improvements in the ball dynamics and the player movements are really satisfying. Passing the ball just looks good. There is a noticeable upgrade in the ability to score goals in more and more creative and different ways over Fifa 06 and this is also satisfying. The presentation is tops. I really like this game the best out of the three. PES 5 would be second and Fifa 06 third.

I still think that PES 5 is king in making it seem like it is a different game everytime, but 2006FWC is soooo fun, for me it has the bestoverall package.

Perhaps another thing that sways peoples opinion on the PES vs Fifa debate is the skill level of the game players. I find Fifa still a good challenge, i find PES a good challenge too, but then again i have not played it above lvl 2 on the difficulty, this was because i was getting used to the different controls, once i mastered them i was beating every team on this level, but before i cranked up the difficulty i got Fifa 06. I should give PES 5 another crack on a harder difficulty. Anyway, its great to have football available inside our houses aint it chaps.

 

[lfcmalta]

I have PES 5, Fifa 06 and 2006FWC. I don't mind PES 5 its a good game. I found that the controls are responsive and you can create some great play. I scored a cracker of a goal from way outside the box and i wish i recorded it, that goal showed me that this game has great diversity and creativity which mean original scoring and play making opportunities.

However, when i got Fif06 on ps2 i left PES 5 and was hooked. But the game was somewhat frustrating because the controls felt out. I still loved the presentation and the thrill of playing as Aston Villa. I switched to XBox and the control issue was better but the ability to create original chances was limited. It gave the feeling that this game is close to being great, but it just seemed to sit under a glass ceiling.

Then i got 2006 Fifa World Cup and man the improvements in the ball dynamics and the player movements are really satisfying. Passing the ball just looks good. There is a noticeable upgrade in the ability to score goals in more and more creative and different ways over Fifa 06 and this is also satisfying. The presentation is tops. I really like this game the best out of the three. PES 5 would be second and Fifa 06 third.

I still think that PES 5 is king in making it seem like it is a different game everytime, but 2006FWC is soooo fun, for me it has the bestoverall package.

Perhaps another thing that sways peoples opinion on the PES vs Fifa debate is the skill level of the game players. I find Fifa still a good challenge, i find PES a good challenge too, but then again i have not played it above lvl 2 on the difficulty, this was because i was getting used to the different controls, once i mastered them i was beating every team on this level, but before i cranked up the difficulty i got Fifa 06. I should give PES 5 another crack on a harder difficulty. Anyway, its great to have football available inside our houses aint it chaps.

yes its great to have the most beautiful sport in the world in our homes but please give PES5 another go, I mean playin it on 2 star I play it on 6 star but dont go on 6 straight away. Start a master league and first year begin with 3 star and than the next year do it 4 star and than 5 & 6, thats how I got to it and its a great challenge. You will love it and see that you get all the latest stuff - transfers, kits, faces etc... and the game will be amazing