Lancers FIFA 2006 Kit Thread

[cariverplate_1]

cool argentina....
competition on that kit ehhh

 

[JFG_Lancer]

I feel like diping into the past for a bit and make some great classic kits, so if you have any requests for some classics i'd love to make them.

First up is a Real Madrid kit that I made a few years back but I still have no clue when Its from other than its from the 90's. I bought It at at Garage Sale and It looks real so I believe at a time it was worn.

Real Madrid Classic (circa 90's)

 

[Sundsvall]

no problems,but can you please send me the template you use for the captains armband?it looks fine imo maybe the seems on the shorts can be thiner...

 

[randy23]

Hey man can you make this kit? this is the new retro kit from mexico

 

[JFG_Lancer]

Hey man can you make this kit? this is the new retro kit from mexico

It is a sweet kit man but I'm waiting for larger pics of the new nike style to make any of the kits. I have no clue about the seams or the mesh styles or even what logo is on the sleeve. I will make it but later.

 

[donovanfan3456]

im greatly honored that you looked off of my design to do your argentina kit but it is wrong just like mine :boohoo:

I don't really understand why everybody is so anal about sharing kit templates and stuff. I mean I understand somewhat, but at the sametime it seems just dumb.

Do making of patches or kits with real logo and teams even right to begin with??? Sense we don't pay anybody liscensing fees to the teams and sponsors to do it??? (For conscience sake, I don't really want an answer to that question) And how many people who are making these kits are actually using legitimate liscenced software, Photoshop i think most are using. There not paying anything to the company that produced the software, technically making it illegal use. And then how can people be so high and mighty about somebody glancing at their kit. But were in a learning enviroment here, but not if you using my kit or patch.

A few weeks ago somebody posted my ISP patch on their website without my permission, and linked it directly to the filefront website instead of my website directly. I could get all anal about it, but the reality is my patches are free to use for fun. This is my hobby and it's suppose to be fun and people are having fun also.

I guess if somebody used the whole patch in their name, I would be kind of pissed about it. But if somebody took a team or two or a kit or two, and used it for them, what's the point of being so anal, especially if somebody is learning how to do this, or patch making.

I guess it's the principle, but I find it hypocritical, because of the two questions listed above. And my other observations.

Just my two cents

 

[santista]

thats not the point....the point is that there is going to be no variety of the same kit if someone looks off of your design i only get dissapointed because it takes me hard hard work to do my kits and then for someone to steal or copy your style or placement of stuff that is just not fair in my opinion


I am one of a kind i do not look off of peoples hard work i search and search and if i cant find anything i ask for help that is what msn, yahoo,or aol messeger is for

 

[Sundsvall]

another point is that,many beginners in kitmaking,steal designs from better kitmaker,and we try to stop that.but lancer isnt a beginner,theres many guys looking up to him,and if he take designs,of course the beginner think thats right.also im pretty tired of hearing guys like you,i mean teh guys who dont make kits,that it doesnt matter if someone take just some things from the kits,but the fact is that the small stuffs can take many hours to make,but you guys dont understand that....the only simple thing you can do is to ask the kitmaker before,and that does only take some seconds...anyway i really dont care about if lancer borrow some designs from me,cause he have helped me too

 

[donovanfan3456]

another point is that,many beginners in kitmaking,steal designs from better kitmaker,and we try to stop that.but lancer isnt a beginner,theres many guys looking up to him,and if he take designs,of course the beginner think thats right.also im pretty tired of hearing guys like you,i mean teh guys who dont make kits,that it doesnt matter if someone take just some things from the kits,but the fact is that the small stuffs can take many hours to make,but you guys dont understand that....the only simple thing you can do is to ask the kitmaker before,and that does only take some seconds...anyway i really dont care about if lancer borrow some designs from me,cause he have helped me too

You are very wrong to say that I don't make kits. I do make kits. Are my kits great, no. Are they sufficient, yes. I make patches, but sometime the kitmakers won't or can't make the kits I request, so what is a person to do with limited time. One think I have done is to see designs off of other people kits and give credit to the original kit maker for the design. I did that with my ISP 2005.

And it's not like making patches are just walk in the part either. The take months to research and put together and hours and hours of hard work. The one i'm working on now I have been working on sense like september.

if you talking about the same kit for the same team. I understand, that makes sense to me. But if for example, I'm looking at somebodys kit to see how addidas designs look, and I give credit as a source for the kit design or template to make a different teams kit, I think that's a different story.

Ok, I see your point that lancer is kit maker icon and he should be an example, that make sense to me, so point well taken.

But don't accuse me of not knowing how much work it takes to make these kits, I'm not that stupid. Guys like me actually makes the kits useful by making the teams that those kits will be used for if not in the game.

By the way is that Photoshop program paid for on your computer? Did you hork out $400 - $600 for it, or did you just pirate it from somebody else? I mean it took a lot of time for the programers to write that software. A simple yes or no would be a good answer for that question.

That's my basic point, it's simple logic. If you have the expectation on another you must live that expectation also in principle in all situations. Not just the ones that affect you, but others also.

 

[Sundsvall]

yeah,i know you aint that stupid to not understand my point,but theres accualy some guys who is,or they dont know the rules.no i didnt paid my photoshop,did you?the diffrence between me and photoshop,is that in one year ive earned exactly 0$,and adobe have earned way more then that,but if you think what im doing is wrong,i can stop with it if you whant,but i doesnt think thats an good idea...in sweden,photoshop costs arond 7000kr (850$),and thats way to much for me to pay

 

[donovanfan3456]

yeah,i know you aint that stupid to not understand my point,but theres accualy some guys who is,or they dont know the rules.no i didnt paid my photoshop,did you?the diffrence between me and photoshop,is that in one year ive earned exactly 0$,and adobe have earned way more then that,but if you think what im doing is wrong,i can stop with it if you whant,but i doesnt think thats an good idea...in sweden,photoshop costs arond 7000kr (850$),and thats way to much for me to pay

I'm not asking you to pay for photoshop, I'm only trying to make a logical argument to get you to think that you probably are doing the same thing in principle in a different situation. That's all, is just be a little more relaxed about things. I'm tired of things being so serious in the fifa community, you can and can't use type stuff.

But this conversation is helping me understand more resources of how things can happen in situation concerning patch making and kit making. So don't think I'm not listening to your point, because I am trying to get a greater understanding. And I'm starting to understand these types of things are being applied in specific situations, for example these kit forums, where people are touting something as their own work. And then complaints are justified, like in the one above that the other guy had about lancers kit. Because it was in part that it was his work.

And that's why I'm not going to open a kit forum for myself, bc my kits are good, but not great, at least for now. And in the past i've learned from other people kits, and I intend to give source, if possible if I use another persons kit to help me do something. The way I see it, it help the kit maker save time by having use it as a template so he doesn't have to make the kit for me. And I don't have to wait until the kit is done so that a patch can be completed. I did this with Northern Virginia in my USL patch, I use Pede canada kit as a help to create the adidas design, then I gave credit to him for the help. So I wasn't touting the kit totally as my own, bc it wasn't.

Concerning the software issue, there are very few people who have never used un-liscensed software. If they use a computer, most likely, whether knowing or not knowing, use it at some point in their life. So i'm not trying to condemn you for that. I have done it myself. And over time one, I think, starts to realize what all those liscense agreements mean when they install their software. And over time, I started to realize that when I use software, I should pay for it. Of course I think the software companies need communicate to people more simply and make pirating more difficult for them to really blame people for doing so. Because right now it's just two easy. Kind of like blaming somebody for stealing two hundred dollars when it was left under the windshield of a car. Still wrong, but very easy.

I don't use Photoshop, bc it cost too much, so I bought Paint Shop Pro version 9, bc it's much cheaper. But before I bought that I was just using Microsoft Picture It publishing that came with my desktop. Even right now I have a unliscensed version of WinRAR on my computer bc the trial ran out, and that bothers me a little bit. So I'm not trying to condemn you.

Anyway Alex, I'm not going to knock you anymore about kits or anything concerning them. OK

 

[ExittheLemming]

I'm not asking you to pay for photoshop, I'm only trying to make a logical argument to get you to think that you probably are doing the same thing in principle in a different situation. That's all, is just be a little more relaxed about things. I'm tired of things being so serious in the fifa community, you can and can't use type stuff.

But this conversation is helping me understand more resources of how things can happen in situation concerning patch making and kit making. So don't think I'm not listening to your point, because I am trying to get a greater understanding. And I'm starting to understand these types of things are being applied in specific situations, for example these kit forums, where people are touting something as their own work. And then complaints are justified, like in the one above that the other guy had about lancers kit. Because it was in part that it was his work.

And that's why I'm not going to open a kit forum for myself, bc my kits are good, but not great, at least for now. And in the past i've learned from other people kits, and I intend to give source, if possible if I use another persons kit to help me do something. The way I see it, it help the kit maker save time by having use it as a template so he doesn't have to make the kit for me. And I don't have to wait until the kit is done so that a patch can be completed. I did this with Northern Virginia in my USL patch, I use Pede canada kit as a help to create the adidas design, then I gave credit to him for the help. So I wasn't touting the kit totally as my own, bc it wasn't.

Concerning the software issue, there are very few people who have never used un-liscensed software. If they use a computer, most likely, whether knowing or not knowing, use it at some point in their life. So i'm not trying to condemn you for that. I have done it myself. And over time one, I think, starts to realize what all those liscense agreements mean when they install their software. And over time, I started to realize that when I use software, I should pay for it. Of course I think the software companies need communicate to people more simply and make pirating more difficult for them to really blame people for doing so. Because right now it's just two easy. Kind of like blaming somebody for stealing two hundred dollars when it was left under the windshield of a car. Still wrong, but very easy.

I don't use Photoshop, bc it cost too much, so I bought Paint Shop Pro version 9, bc it's much cheaper. But before I bought that I was just using Microsoft Picture It publishing that came with my desktop. Even right now I have a unliscensed version of WinRAR on my computer bc the trial ran out, and that bothers me a little bit. So I'm not trying to condemn you.

Anyway Alex, I'm not going to knock you anymore about kits or anything concerning them. OK

Very refreshing to learn that some of the subscribers to these forums can articulate their ideas so well. I agree with almost everything in this post but would venture that in addition to the software issues Donovan raises, the main stumbling block for reciprocal assistance in the community is lack of maturity by the majority of subscribers.

Regards from an old fart

 

[JFG_Lancer]

I'm gone a few days and I find my thread has become a a true forum of opinions and its quite refreshing. And like I have said in previous posts I only looked off a few parts of the designs to remember or figure out something I have been stuck on looks but only on a few small parts and I always make it myself and I usually never do it except for these times to make up time which is very precious in my life these days. But anyways I do have a few kits here...

Borussia Dortmund Classic ( Late 1940's)



F.C Barcelona Home Classic (1998)

 

[boreto8]

Excellent remembers kits bro...
A hug

 

[cariverplate_1]

im greatly honored that you looked off of my design to do your argentina kit but it is wrong just like mine :boohoo:

we all make mistakes m8

 

[Gatecrasher]

Being an American whos only watched the beautiful game for about 2 years, its really cool to see retro kits like this, thanks.

 

[Sundsvall]

looks like kappa trying to make record in logos on the barca kit hehehe

 

[JFG_Lancer]

looks like kappa trying to make record in logos on the barca kit hehehe

Yeah I know I was always wondering what Kappa was thinking witrh that kit

 

[pede54]

Nice to see ya back Jose,nice work too........

 

[JFG_Lancer]

Thanks for the responses and I'm glad that you like the kits all.

The 1st World Cup Final (1930)

Uruguay (Champions)



Vs.

Argentina