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Major pes4 FLAW!!

MasterM

Senior Squad
This must be the most ridicilous thing ive noticed in pes4 online mode. I noticed that while being a host it was like playing the cheating CPU. I lost all header, when i won one it ignores my aim and the ball goes to the opponent.
My friend and i tested this case. I was playing him as host. I lost 80%of the air battles and the cpu cheats in favor of him. Then i was client, wow what an amazing discovory I won almost all of my battles in the air. And all defending was so much less of a hassle. We choose the same teams at all time.
Pes4 is scripted as hell.

P.S. You wont notice this if your not a proffesional pes player. Only players that try to do complicated combination soccer will notice the scripted play of pes. So noobs dont open your mouth thnx.
 

aqua

Reserve Team
I have noticed that when you play multi-player human v human, the cpu decides that one team will get all the breaks...it's not always the host or the client - I think it just depends on which teams you choose.

I've also done a bit of testing on-line and I've certainly noticed some games where the ball just goes for me all the time - chances and goals come easily, my defenders are first to every loose ball. I can just let go of the controller and my guys will automatically surround his guy with the ball and win it off him. Just press the pass button a few times and you easily run rings around his hapless defenders and find yourself clean thorugh on goal. 4-0 wins are not uncommon.

Other games are the opposite where everything falls for the other guy. No matter how hard you try, the cpu determines that the ball will break for the other team. When there's a loose ball, one of his defenders which he's not controlling will dash in and collect it, all his through-passes are inch perfect. My guys can't even pass 5 yards.

You can usually tell within the first 20 seconds what sort of game it's going to be.

It's actually very annoying and a big disappointment. Games against the cpu are bad enough becuase of the over-reliance on cpu cheats, but when multi-player is not so much a match up of players' skills as simply pure luck when you pick the team that gets all the breaks, the game really disappoints.
 

MasterM

Senior Squad
well said aqua well said.

This is an MAJOR flaw. I am really disappointed in Konami. It ruins the game for me.

I once played this guy. I had ac milan and he had man utd. First game i trashed him 6-0, 2nd game 4-0. You could clearly see that this guy was a beginner. Than he choose Brazil, wow it was like he took a powerup. He won all battles, his passing always reaches his points. His defending was much better. My players were suffering mindlosses a lot of times. I couldnt dribble anymore, when i passed one defender the ball unrealistically leaves my feet for 5mtrs just for the other defender to intercept. I had the feeling the cpu was doing half his work and it was.
 

MasterM

Senior Squad
Originally posted by Jeej!
MisterM's at it again. :rolleyes:

Btw, who are you to decide who's a n00b and who's not?

Did i called names. Did i say for example Jeej! is an noob???
Did you read that anywhere??? Maybe you should read again kid before blabbling sh**T.
 

Jeej!

Youth Team
Originally posted by MasterM
Did i called names. Did i say for example Jeej! is an noob???
Did you read that anywhere??? Maybe you should read again kid before blabbling sh**T.
The moment you said 'Only professionals know what I'm talking about' you made a line between noobs and pro's; a line which no one knows, cause no one @ this forum knows who's a n00b and who's a pro.

I think it's a bit pathetic that you say 'So n00bs, don't open your mouth thnx'. By saying that you state that
1) Beginning players don't play 'complicated combination soccer', which is BS.
2) You are crediting yourself as a pro. Sure, you can, but your attitude against your so-called 'n00bs' is a bit sad, not to say stupid and blunt. The n00bs are the peeps who eventually become pro's, where some of the modern day n00bs can (I say can) already be better than some of our so-called 'pro's'.

Your attitude isn't all that great, m8, think about it.
 

carpedapuck

Club Supporter
Originally posted by Jeej!
The moment you said 'Only professionals know what I'm talking about' you made a line between noobs and pro's; a line which no one knows, cause no one @ this forum knows who's a n00b and who's a pro.

I think it's a bit pathetic that you say 'So n00bs, don't open your mouth thnx'. By saying that you state that
1) Beginning players don't play 'complicated combination soccer', which is BS.
2) You are crediting yourself as a pro. Sure, you can, but your attitude against your so-called 'n00bs' is a bit sad, not to say stupid and blunt. The n00bs are the peeps who eventually become pro's, where some of the modern day n00bs can (I say can) already be better than some of our so-called 'pro's'.

Your attitude isn't all that great, m8, think about it.

Above said is a great post. You read my mind.
To the author of thread: you cant credit yourself being pro ror not. It doesnt have any value. Bring your game and others can credit you. Take the stick out of your arse and come down to Earth and be among the rest of us....
 

MasterM

Senior Squad
Originally posted by Jeej!
The moment you said 'Only professionals know what I'm talking about' you made a line between noobs and pro's; a line which no one knows, cause no one @ this forum knows who's a n00b and who's a pro.

I think it's a bit pathetic that you say 'So n00bs, don't open your mouth thnx'. By saying that you state that
1) Beginning players don't play 'complicated combination soccer', which is BS.
2) You are crediting yourself as a pro. Sure, you can, but your attitude against your so-called 'n00bs' is a bit sad, not to say stupid and blunt. The n00bs are the peeps who eventually become pro's, where some of the modern day n00bs can (I say can) already be better than some of our so-called 'pro's'.

Your attitude isn't all that great, m8, think about it.

wtf are you talking about, your going to an whole other subject. I was defending myself, because you said i was deciding who was being noob or not. If you play complicated combination soccer you aint a beginner.
You acuse me of things i didnt do. I dont decide who is noob. But its up to you to decide for yourself if you are a noob or not. And I credit myself as a proffesional player, because a lot of people who I played online said to me I was a good player. Does that make me a better person than you?? NO!! Damn dont take this so high. Who cares if i call myself a pro, does that degrade your usual lifestyle or something. If you are hurt so much about it, plz leave this forums.
Mods plz delete all this offtopic talk thnx.
 

Rport03

Youth Team
Well plain and simple you said noobs pleaze dont open your mouth, well if this is an open forum people pro or noob can say whatever they want, most people dont have to be a "pro" to notice something and notice that its scripted or whatever. If yu already know its a flaw why wouldnt you want people commenting on your post... Weird just weird
 

theedor

Red Card - Life
Life Ban
hahaaa... since noone seems to own noobness, I accept and announce that I'm a noob :amika:

funny :ewan:
 

johan

Senior Squad
MisterM - how many threads are you going to make you and your PES4 problems..? don`t try to increase your post count by writing this lame sh!t. Mods should either warn you or ban you.
 

theedor

Red Card - Life
Life Ban
Originally posted by diggi 10
MisterM - how many threads are you going to make you and your PES4 problems..? don`t try to increase your post count by writing this lame sh!t. Mods should either warn you or ban you.

well I suppose misterm is right... he's not written a single wrong comment.. pes4 has flaws.. there's no inconvenience for me.. and you, do not comment on warning or banning issues unless you have a moderator badge.. this is none of your business indeed..
 

carpedapuck

Club Supporter
Originally posted by theedor
well I suppose misterm is right... he's not written a single wrong comment.. pes4 has flaws.. there's no inconvenience for me.. and you, do not comment on warning or banning issues unless you have a moderator badge.. this is none of your business indeed..


Its democracy Sherlock. He can comment all he wants.
 

niceman

Senior Squad
Originally posted by diggi 10
MisterM - how many threads are you going to make you and your PES4 problems..? don`t try to increase your post count by writing this lame sh!t. Mods should either warn you or ban you.

M&Ms should be yellow carded for repetitive postboosting and bull****ing!
 

PESUK

Club Supporter
The reason for u winning, is the person hosting must have the conditions on either random or advantage to home, try and put it too normal, also every game has its flaw are you perhaps some fifa player trying too prove a point, there is noobs I am one but I am also a fan of Pro Evolution Soccer and too be honest bud if you dont like the game or u aint happy with this flaw play Fifa 2005 you can score from the Halfway line and keeper just stands there, or lob in from wing and keeper stands there or have to put up with bugged corners, Pro Evolution Soccer is new to the online scene give them time, then judge, I think they have done a fine job and be honest Ive seen a lot of leagues and mine included with teams winning away I think its all in your head or as i have first stated therefore that is why i say in my site if u have a router u r warned that there will be a main advantage to home side cause the player on other end could pick random or advantage to home,and as for your language cut it down it dont make you big, in fact youll get no respect from no one. Stop being a moan play the game and enjoy or go Fifa.

P.S - Dont home teams get advantage anyways mmmmmm
 

johan

Senior Squad
Originally posted by niceman
M&Ms should be yellow carded for repetitive postboosting and bull****ing!

Exactly, every time I come in here, I see a thread made by him how PES4 has all these flaws etc.. he can say everything in one thread...
 

kingpug

BANNED
Life Ban
"I have noticed that when you play multi-player human v human, the cpu decides that one team will get all the breaks...it's not always the host or the client - I think it just depends on which teams you choose."

EXACTLY, you read my mind m8, this is why I have never played a human opponent for ages (save for a few online), simply because, as I always see, one player gets cheated to ****, while the other gets luck big enough to win the lottery..
 

kingpug

BANNED
Life Ban
Look, this is a forum to discuss things, not for people to come in here and cry because someone said the game has flaws..

Everyone I know in person said the exact same thing, this might be the best football there is but its not perfect by any means..

Live with it.
 

niceman

Senior Squad
Originally posted by kingpug
Look, this is a forum to discuss things, not for people to come in here and cry because someone said the game has flaws..

Everyone I know in person said the exact same thing, this might be the best football there is but its not perfect by any means..

Live with it.

Dude M&Ms keep saying the same thing starting useless threads...i hope u wont do the same else this forum will soon be dead!
 

Chammas

Senior Squad
Let's discuss what the topic is about and ingore noob pro thing.

I have noticed the thing that's written about. One game all lost balls and stuff is won by me and sometimes every ball is lost and stuff like the players resist my thought.

I think it's pathetic to say the CPU cheats for the other human and stuff tho. If something, that is noobish Master M.

I think it's about the bad response in the game combinated with from a little bit lagging to huge freezing of the screen. You can fight it but it is hard.
 


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