Makedonia kits

[Painkiller]

I care what is your problem play with your kits and shut the **** up

 

[Aquadark]

I care what is your problem play with your kits and shut the **** up

If you are seriously 31, you are acting like a 13-years old... take note.

 

[Aleksandar]

To "stoni90 and painkiller" And you f***** greak or whatever you wanna call yourself maybe you live in teritory wich was once Macedonia. But that is your rights. I also feel Macedonian because my ancestry is from here. We are mixture of ancient macedonians and slavs and that is a fact. And I have right to feel like that. And your country is bigger then our, and logicaly you have powerfull loby. Why you are so frustrated??? You dont now even your history and you speak about mine.??? Get lost your self...
And if you think that Alexander Macedonian the Great was a greak, I dont think so... The greak nation is so ugly... and he was very pretty boy like all Macedonians.
You are (for many scientists) araps, and stop bothering us

About Macedonian kits, I will try to make them

 

[Painkiller]

To "stoni90 and painkiller" And you f***** greak or whatever you wanna call yourself maybe you live in teritory wich was once Macedonia. But that is your rights. I also feel Macedonian because my ancestry is from here. We are mixture of ancient macedonians and slavs and that is a fact. And I have right to feel like that. And your country is bigger then our, and logicaly you have powerfull loby. Why you are so frustrated??? You dont now even your history and you speak about mine.??? Get lost your self...
And if you think that Alexander Macedonian the Great was a greak, I dont think so... The greak nation is so ugly... and he was very pretty boy like all Macedonians.
You are (for many scientists) araps, and stop bothering us

About Macedonian kits, I will try to make them

I hope some day to come face to face with someone of you skopian BASTARDS

 

[Aleksandar]

here you go:

Anyway, once FYROM joins the EU, all debates will be over. Bulgarian, Serbian, Greek, Albanian... seriously, who the f cares !?

THIS IS NOT MACEDONIAN KITS (it is Bulgarian)

I hope some day to come face to face with someone of you skopian BASTARDS

LOL... I hope I`m the one.

 

[Painkiller]

Hey stupid ****,
First learn how english language is written properly then open some history books you might learn something useful
By the way i live in thessaloniki and i see a lot of skopians studying here or coming for shopping
if we are an ugly nation how come all these people prefer this place...
On the other hand i dont see many greeks coming to your town
And its spelled greek not greak you geek

 

[john9]

the man just ask for a kit...

 

[Aleksandar]

Hey stupid ****,
First learn how english language is written properly then open some history books you might learn something useful
By the way i live in thessaloniki and i see a lot of skopians studying here or coming for shopping
if we are an ugly nation how come all these people prefer this place...
On the other hand i dont see many greeks coming to your town
And its spelled greek not greak you geek

Yes you have right, but its enough for your dull brain.
And for you ...its not Skopia,... its Skopje (the capital of Macedonia)
And its not thessaloniki,... its Solun (original name)
And its not fyrom,... its Republic of Macedonia (The name of my country)

And please admins if you read, lock this treat. This is stupid!

 

[br82]

Yeh, Sure! lock the post with the last words being that....

Generally my friend u ARE a really small nation of only 2 million ppl or so with NO economy (most companies in FYROM r greek companies) and u jus rose a dispute in order to get known to the world! bcoz your ppl have NO history u decided to make one up! that's so pathetic!

u made a deal with mr bush for the name and became partners by opening ur airspace to his jets and building military camps and airports for him....anything a small country would do for some cash.

All i see in this thread apart from posts that have no relation at all with football is that greeks have a lot on this arguement...what u have is G.W.Bush and maps of othmanias.....u r such a fool to say alexander was not greek, he was macedonian....it's like sayin bush is not from US, he is Texan!!! back in those days, the athenians, the spartans, the macedonians and MANY other cities like Argos etc. were all greek, spoke the same language and had more or less the same customs. Your clame for being macedonian is like claming ur greek! ur so narrowminded u just can't c that!jus bcoz 1/3 of ur country was ONCE inhabited by macedonians doesn't make u macedonian/greek. Hell, maybe then Yugoslavs Bulgarians and the rest of the balkans or even Suria, Iran, Egypt etc can say the same thing...bcoz alexander once conquered them! But u know, even they can rise a bigger arguement than you bcoz there are proofs of alexander's decendants in the area of e.g. Persia ! LOLING bro....LOLING all night long!!!

cheers

 

[hellas31]

Yes you have right, but its enough for your dull brain.
And for you ...its not Skopia,... its Skopje (the capital of Macedonia)
And its not thessaloniki,... its Solun (original name)
And its not fyrom,... its Republic of Macedonia (The name of my country)

And please admins if you read, lock this treat. This is stupid!

Just consider this:
You are NOT makedonian.
You are a BULGARIAN.
Your language is BULGARIAN.
Your culture is BULGARIAN.
Your Han Asparuh came to balkans in 6th CENTURY.
THESSALONIKI was the name of Alexandros' sister.
No matter what happens YOU remain BULGARIAN YOU know that.
So before going to sleep at night say tou yourself: I AM A BULGARIAN THAT IS ASHAMED OF HIS NATIONALITY.
Its REALLY sad that you are trying to STEAL other peoples history just because youre ashamed of yours.

And this is your kit:

 

[stoni90]

fk off u idiot!

u might want to ask george w bush. he will tell u.

do u know what the first thing bush did when he was re-elected he recognised macedonia as the REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA. so how does the world know that macedonia is greek u fkn immature idiot!

you are saying that this man can decide for my history????

boy you have issues...

 

[stoni90]

here you go:



Anyway, once FYROM joins the EU, all debates will be over. Bulgarian, Serbian, Greek, Albanian... seriously, who the f cares !?

typical behaviour resulting from ignorance...
i dont know where are you from, but lets say you are english, then one day France conquers london and the region around, then after 1000 years french claim that shakespeare was french will you care????

 

[Painkiller]

And its not thessaloniki,... its Solun (original name)

Υou really need to learn history

 

[Painkiller]

typical behaviour resulting from ignorance...
i dont know where are you from, but lets say you are english, then one day France conquers london and the region around, then after 1000 years french claim that shakespeare was french will you care????

probably not...

 

[Aleksandar]

Yeh, Sure! lock the post with the last words being that....

Generally my friend u ARE a really small nation of only 2 million ppl or so with NO economy (most companies in FYROM r greek companies) and u jus rose a dispute in order to get known to the world! bcoz your ppl have NO history u decided to make one up! that's so pathetic!

u made a deal with mr bush for the name and became partners by opening ur airspace to his jets and building military camps and airports for him....anything a small country would do for some cash.

All i see in this thread apart from posts that have no relation at all with football is that greeks have a lot on this arguement...what u have is G.W.Bush and maps of othmanias.....u r such a fool to say alexander was not greek, he was macedonian....it's like sayin bush is not from US, he is Texan!!! back in those days, the athenians, the spartans, the macedonians and MANY other cities like Argos etc. were all greek, spoke the same language and had more or less the same customs. Your clame for being macedonian is like claming ur greek! ur so narrowminded u just can't c that!jus bcoz 1/3 of ur country was ONCE inhabited by macedonians doesn't make u macedonian/greek. Hell, maybe then Yugoslavs Bulgarians and the rest of the balkans or even Suria, Iran, Egypt etc can say the same thing...bcoz alexander once conquered them! But u know, even they can rise a bigger arguement than you bcoz there are proofs of alexander's decendants in the area of e.g. Persia ! LOLING bro....LOLING all night long!!!

cheers

In fact this is nothing more than Greek conviction which for years now has been handed out to young people in Greek schools from their earliest years and, most recently, has been propagated throughout the entire world.
And I don't blame you, it's your country politics, and they must propagate this theory coz they are guilty for the exodus on Macedonian people from North Greece (Aegean Macedonia)
My country has great history, anyone who wants to learn something other than Greek school book here...

http://faq.macedonia.org/history/index.frame.html

You will learn many things.

I just defend my identity, I apologize to the others

 

[stoni90]

To "stoni90 and painkiller" And you f***** greak or whatever you wanna call yourself maybe you live in teritory wich was once Macedonia. But that is your rights. I also feel Macedonian because my ancestry is from here. We are mixture of ancient macedonians and slavs and that is a fact. And I have right to feel like that. And your country is bigger then our, and logicaly you have powerfull loby. Why you are so frustrated??? You dont now even your history and you speak about mine.??? Get lost your self...
And if you think that Alexander Macedonian the Great was a greak, I dont think so... The greak nation is so ugly... and he was very pretty boy like all Macedonians.
You are (for many scientists) araps, and stop bothering us

About Macedonian kits, I will try to make them

what language were the ancient macedonians were speaking? i can speak ancient macedonian-greek can you??? i doubt, you are bulgarian after all.

you have every right to feel whatever you want. even homosexuals men feel women, they FEEL women. They're not....
can you name me these so called scientists? and if we are an ugly nation why is it that all museums all over the world are filled with greek statues of the ancient greek Kallos?
oh, something else. can you name me 1, and i say again, ONE ancient skopjian Philosopher,writer,mathematician, astronomer......fill in whatever you like.....
can you tell me why alexander the great kept under his pillow ILIADE of Homer and had Aristotle as a teacher. I mean Iliade was written in greek, how could a slavian read Greek.
can you tell me why his father's dream Fillippos B' was to unite all greek city-states under his reign? and why he continued and fulfilled this dream?
can you tell me why the slavian language was created from two greek saints?
ciril and metodios.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrill_%26_Methodios

Cyril and Methodius were two Greek (Byzantine) brothers born in Thessaloniki in the 9th century, who became missionaries of Christianity in Khazaria and Great Moravia. They are credited with devising and spreading the Glagolitic alphabet, which was used for Slavonic manuscripts before the development of the Cyrillic, the alphabet derived from Glagolitic, that, with small modifications, is still used in a number of Slavic languages. After their death their pupils became missionaries among other Slavic peoples. Both brothers were canonized in Eastern Orthodoxy as "equal-to-apostles" and were glorified by the Roman Catholic Church in 1880.

As for thessaloniki

The city was founded circa 315 BC by Cassander, the King of Macedon (Μακεδώ&#957, on or near the site of the ancient town of Therma and twenty six other local villages. He named it after his wife Thessalonica, the sister of Alexander the Great. She gained her name from her father, Philip II of Macedon, to commemorate her birth on the day of his gaining a victory (Gr. Nike) over the Phocians, who were defeated with the help of Thessalian horsemen, the best in Greece at that time. Thessalonki means the "victory of Thessalians" (where Thessalians derives from Thessaly which means thesi alos, i.e. "a land that was sea").

Thessaloniki developed rapidly and as early as the 2nd century BC the first walls were built, forming a large square. It was, as all the other contemporary Greek cities, an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Macedon, with its own parliament where the King was represented and could interfere in the city's domestic affairs.

i know that it's not your fault, after alla you are a victim of propaganda used form your politicians to unite a country that shouldn't exist neither. a country that helds territories that belong to Greece.
So, if you want to continue as a entity firts learn your history and stop stealing other ones Glory so you can hold your head up. be what you are: an bulgarian not wanted by the bulgarians...

"Bulgarian historians say FYROMians are of Bulgarian origin and their language developed from a Bulgarian dialect," which Skopje denies. But Sofia was also the first country to recognize FYROM's independence from the former Yugoslavia in 1991 and now favours its joining the EU. (August 2006 AFP)

"Every FYROMIAN national who does not claim Albanian or Serbian origin has the right to declare a Bulgarian origin." This is an individual act in accordance with the historical reality of our common ethnic origin,”
According to: Stefan Nikolov of the Agency for Bulgarians Abroad. (August 2006 AFP)

As for Pella

The city was founded by Archelaus I of Macedon (413–399 BC) as the capital of his kingdom, replacing the older palace-city of Aigi (Vergina). After this, it was the seat of Philip II of Macedon and of Alexander the Great, his son. In 168 BC, it was sacked by the Romans, and its treasury transported to Rome. Later, the city was destroyed by an earthquake and eventually was rebuilt over its ruins. By 180 AD, Lucian could describe it in passing as "now insignificant, with very few inhabitants".

Pella is first mentioned by Herodotus a Skopian(VII, 123) in relation to Xerxes' campaign and by Thucydides another Scopian(II, 99,4 and 100,4) in relation to Macedonian expansion and the war against Sitalces, the king of the Thracians. According to Xenophon Scopians all over the place, in the beginning of the 4th century BCE, it was the largest Macedonian city. It was probably built as the capital of the kingdom by Archelaus I of Macedon, although there appears to be some possibility that it may have been Amyntas III of Macedon. It attracted Greek do you mean Scopians?? artists such the painter Zeuxis, the poet Timotheus of Miletus and the tragic author Euripides Great Scopian Writer who finishes his days there writing and producing Archelaus.

 

[Aleksandar]

What is for certain is that Alexander spoke Macedonian with his own Macedonian troops and used Greek in addressing the Asians and Greeks. After all, the Macedonians were his kinsmen (precisely the way he calls them), not the Greeks. All these sources, both ancient and modern, specifically refer to Macedonian as a language and not as a dialect of Greek, and Alexander himself specifically calls the Macedonian - "our native language". During the trial of Philotas, Alexander himself clearly distinguishes his native Macedonian language from the Greek language which as a second language at the Macedonian court alongside with Macedonian, was used in diplomacy, a fact we found in the Philotas trial (Q. Curtius Rufus).

"What did others say about Macedonians? Here there is a relative abundance of information", writes Borza, "from Arrian, Plutarch (Alexander, Eumenes), Diodorus 17-20, Justin, Curtius Rufus, and Nepos (Eumenes), based upon Greek and Greek-derived Latin sources. It is clear that over a five-century span of writing in two languages representing a variety of historiographical and philosophical positions the ancient writers regarded the Greeks and the Macedonians as two separate and distinct peoples whose relationship was marked by considerable antipathy, if not outright hostility."

The conclusion is thus complete – ancient Macedonian was a separate Indo-European language, different from ancient Greek, just like the Macedonians were a separate nation different from the ancient Greek nation, and the claim that Macedonian was a "dialect of Greek" and that "Macedonians were Greeks", a claim that today is supported only by the modern Greeks and only out of political reasons, is absurd and ridiculous.

Here again:
http://faq.macedonia.org/history/index.frame.html

 

[stoni90]

respond to my questions: can you?

 

[Painkiller]

Υeah i learned a lot from that link you posted ...
I learned that at the war of alexander against persians he had 30000 ancient macedonians with his side whilst there were 7000 ancient greeks fightingAGAINST ALEXANDER ALONG WITH PERSIANS???
Beware the phantom of alexander will come to curse you...

 

[tonib511]

Here again:
http://faq.macedonia.org/history/index.frame.html

The problem is that you posted a link of your own country and stoni90 posted a link from an international site