Manchester United Thread [2004-2005]

[Funky--K]

Originally posted by houston3721
thanks very much Funky--K.
do u have the EPL fonts? the numbers that have the lion on it. thanks

nop (:/) still trying to find those

 

[shrekiejai]

ngyc...very well said....

Is it coincidental that this downfall starting roughly when Beckham got shipped to Spain? I still believe that this is one of the main reason why we are in the position we are today.

Van Nistelrooy has been quiet last season relative to his first 2.. and I can only think of Beckham... he might have no dribbling, no defending, no pace... but he has one heck of a cross... and that alone created numerous goals for Van Nistelrooy and got many points for the team.

Also, Beckham had the spirit and passion... look at the CL game between Man Utd and Real at OT... he was a sub.. but he came in... scored two goals, and almost grabbed the hattrick which would've secured ManU's passage.... And he had like 30 minutes on the pitch? He was running for everything, doing everything that he could...

Why did we sell him?

I also believe that it is SAF's personal emotion getting the better of his football judgement. He has done it before with Stam, and he did it again with Beckham.

And it is costing the team.

I also can't believe that we are lookin for a replacement for Keane and Giggs...now! Surely someone with SAF's experience would've realised Keane and Giggs's performance will deteriote with time. Why did we just stand still when the market was down and then start looking when time finally catches up with them? Was SAF resting on his laurels just abit too much?

Anyways, I have no idea how we can solve the midfield problem. I sincerely hope that when the players come back (mostly non-midfield players), we will transform into the awe-inspiring team that we once were. However, for the first time since I've known about United, I have my doubts about whether we can even challenge for the title...

Like I said before, lets hope SAF proves me wrong...

 

[ngyc]

Originally posted by goal_machine84
i agree that the midfield isnt performing to its full potential... but hey i still believe that with a couple of more games under the belt
we should be able to find our groove..

my first 11 will be


O Shea RIO HEINZE SILVESTRE

GIGGS KEANE SCHOLES RONALDO


SMITH VAN NISTELROOY.



PS.. i think we can put smith in the midfield....what do u think guys?

o'seah at right? wheres gary neville?

silves at left? i rather put spector

and giggs should be at left and ronaldo at right even though they both can play both side

 

[MiCk_10]

1 Thing that man u need 2 change now is their style of play...and if SAF cant do tat better get some else.....put SAF in board.....IMO....our game style is 2 predictable already....so man u buckle up now and make a change

 

[shrekiejai]

After goal_machine84's post...got me thinking..

Out of curiousity... if you were SAF, and that there are no injuries (Definitely dreaming).... what would be your starting 11, what will your formation be, and what will be you strategy (ie. justify your lineup)?


---------------- Howard ----------------------
--------------------------------------------------
--- G.Neville --- Rio --- Wes --- Heinze ---
--------------------------------------------------
-------------------------- Keane ---------------
--- Ronaldo ------------------------ Giggs ---
------------------- Smith -----------------------
---------------------------------------------------
----------- Rooney ------- Ruud --------------


Sub: Carrol, Spector, Saha, Scholes, Djemba

- Dropping Silvestre. Howard i'll give him a chance...

- Replacing Smith for Scholes... since Smith will be more likely to run that extra mile to cover for Keane's lack of pace...

- Rooney should also be dropping deep to get the ball... and running at the defence... that could also drag some defender away from Ruud...

- Ronaldo and Giggs will provide the crosses... and long shots..

- Ultimately would replace Keane and Giggs... but there is noone with enough class to do so in the team...

- For subs, Djemba in case we need that extra man to defend a lead...

 

[Funky--K]

Drop Scholes? WTF!?

 

[shrekiejai]

What was the last thing he done that you remember??

 

[Andrejs]

I imagine Fergie singing "What have you done for me lately" and showing the bench to Scholes

But yeah i agree he should be rested for some games.

 

[Totality]

I can't see Scholesy being rested being a major problem when everybody is fully fit

http://www.offtheline.co.uk/

 

[Help?]

Scholes needs a rest for sure. On Saturday it seemed that the only guy who was able to take care of Okocha was Smith and he was playing forward that game, probably stole the ball from Jay-Jay more than Scholes and Keane together.

 

[Hans]

Originally posted by shrekiejai

- For subs, Djemba in case we need that extra man to defend a lead...

The last thing we need is a brainless player in the squad. I prefer Kleberson over him at any situation. Djemba-Djemba is just too dumb . . .

And I don`t understand this whole "KILL SILVESTRE" ****, I remember how you all can tolerate the legendary 6 months runs of blunders by Wes Brown. You all can tolerate his blunders, own goals and mistakes throughout almost the whole freakin` season, but you can`t stand Silvestre. Is it because he is French or something. Yeah, we should drop Silvestre for a couple of weeks, but we should also remember how many freakin` times he backed up and save our asses from Brown`s stupid losin` of the ball some months ago. He`s still a Red Devil.

 

[xiaoarc]

I have a feeling that many people are going to hate Arsenal..

 

[SlowSilver]

Originally posted by Hans
The last thing we need is a brainless player in the squad. I prefer Kleberson over him at any situation. Djemba-Djemba is just too dumb . . .

And I don`t understand this whole "KILL SILVESTRE" ****, I remember how you all can tolerate the legendary 6 months runs of blunders by Wes Brown. You all can tolerate his blunders, own goals and mistakes throughout almost the whole freakin` season, but you can`t stand Silvestre. Is it because he is French or something. Yeah, we should drop Silvestre for a couple of weeks, but we should also remember how many freakin` times he backed up and save our asses from Brown`s stupid losin` of the ball some months ago. He`s still a Red Devil.

I agree on the Silvestre/Brown part, but you are the guy with "Wes Brown hater.." as your user name.

On the Djemba-Djemba situation, I quite like him. He's starting to be more confident on the ball and he is a useful player.

 

[MiCk_10]

I hate assenal.......

Brown is good player but he injured 2 much and slow his progress....coz he was hail as 1 of the best young defender ever produce by england...but injury kill it...but Wes Brown....still can learn as he is only 24

 

[Hans]

Originally posted by SlowSilver
I agree on the Silvestre/Brown part, but you are the guy with "Wes Brown hater.." as your user name.

On the Djemba-Djemba situation, I quite like him. He's starting to be more confident on the ball and he is a useful player.

There`s something weird about my user name . . . Ever since I put that, Wes played the best weeks of his life, too bad it was to late, it was a couple of weeks before the season ended Perhaps I should change it into Silvestre and Brown Hater and probably our defense will be vastly improved . . .

I never questioned Djemba`s skills on the ball, the only thing that bugs me about him is that he stops the momentum cos` sometimes he is holdin` on the ball too much. It seems like he was clueless of what to do with the ball everytime he got it. His passin` is terrible and mostly useless.

Brown is good player but he injured 2 much and slow his progress....coz he was hail as 1 of the best young defender ever produce by england...but injury kill it...but Wes Brown....still can learn as he is only 24

24 is a mature age for today`s footballer. And Silvestre is only two years older It`s not like you`re comparin` a 24 year old with a 35 year old player. Some of us are not being fair. Silvestre had a couple of bad weeks and suddenly everyone here wants him out or even worse, kill him. While Wes screwed up for almost half way through the season, but all of you defending him with injuries reason, or young age.

 

[soccerbest]

Gary out for 4 weeks.

http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=104255&itype=466&icategoryid=120

 

[Andrejs]

Oh lord , this is getting disturbing

 

[PhiLLer]

Here's the BBC's take on it. This is getting strange.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3651862.stm

 

[houston3721]

Here is my formation for the Liverpool game

----------------------------Howard-----------------------
P. Neville-----Ferdinand--------Heinze------Spector
Ronaldo----------Keane--------Scholes---------Giggs
----------------v. Nistelrooy------Smith----------------

but later...we should use these 2...

----------------------------Howard-------------------------
G. Neville-------Ferdinand-----Silvestre-------Heinze
Ronaldo-----------Keane--------Scholes---------Giggs
----------------v. Nistelrooy-------Smith------------------

----------------------------Howard--------------------------
G. Neville---------Brown--------Ferdinand-----Fortune
Ronaldo-----Djemba-Djemba----Kleberson----Giggs
-----------------------Saha-------Rooney-------------------

 

[Andrejs]

We are doomed.