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Manchester United Thread [2004-2005]

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ngyc

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houston3721 said:
Fletcher will replace Scholes and hopefully O'Shea will replace Keane. Fletcher reads the game really really well and he distributes the ball well. Fergie has given O'Shea a lot of chances to play in the middle of the midfield and he does quite well. With his nice footwork and his tall and strong body, he will be our best replacement of Keane unless someone like Essien comes and does really well.

i can't see o'shea is the replacement for keane. he is a not a defensive midfielder. i hope fergie stick with his actual left/right back position. remember he's been brilliant when he play left back for us in the season he break through to the first team. with his good dribbling skill and "nutmeg" ability (remember that 1 he did against figo (Y)). i'm not understand why fergie push him to become a defendsive midfielder, playing out of favorite position is one of the reason that he can't perform in this season.

keane is solid, brave, decisive and leadership defensive midfielder. phil neville could be a good choice. he have done a very good for us in many years but he always been forgoten. he doesn't have much chance to play for the first team but he always there for us when we need him. he is one of the best servant for us in many years (Y)(Y). i hope he is not the second nicky butt. i don't wish to see another great and loyal player left us. if we doesn't have the budget to bring in new face as keane replacement, lets stick with phil neville even though i hope we can get gattuso.

as fletcher, i see his improvement this season. compare to last season, he is more decisive, better ball control, less lossing ball at midfield and the most important is, he able to make some good pass or brilliant long cross (remember that assist to ruud against fernebahce and the assist to rooney against newcastle). he's been excellent for us but he is so unlucky to pick up another injury. he can help either in attack or defend, with some good pass and crosses. i can't see he is the replacement for scholes or keane. he is the player between them. but the important is, he always give 100% for everygame he play (Y)
 

houston3721

Senior Squad
Maybe in the future, we will play 2 central midfielders instead of 1 attacking and 1 defendsive midfielders. Fletcher is not really the Scholes's style or the Keane's style, but i do think that he will be our regular player in the first team.

I saw Fergie has put O'Shea in the midfield many times and I guess Fergie would like him to fit in that position. I do think that he plays really well in the left back and right back position. However, Heinze does very well on the left so O'Shea has to compete with Brown to get the right back position when Gary retires one day. Figo is not a defending player but that nutmeg is really impressive.

 

fh_29

Reserve Team
Fergie surely will still pick his time to pack it in

David Lacey
Saturday March 26, 2005

It has been strange and a little unnerving to find the words "Ferguson" and "sack" appearing in the same head-lines.
Even one that declares "Ferguson safe from the sack" leaves the uncomfortable feeling the game is more intent than ever on devouring its legends.

Football managers are being fired all the time but at Old Trafford this is surely the shove that dares not speak its name. Under Alex Ferguson Manchester United have won eight Premiership titles, the FA Cup five times, the Champions League, the Cup Winners' Cup and the League Cup.

They have also become the richest club in the world and now possess the biggest and best league football stadium in Britain. The cash, more-over, has been generated by the team's performances and the resulting commercial and TV spin-offs.

Unlike Chelsea United did not suddenly strike Russian oil, they dug deep, hard and long for their crock of gold. Ferguson's future as Manchester United manager was always going to be finite, if only on grounds of advancing age. He is now 63 and had intended to retire at 60 until his family, plus his own lasting enthusiasm, persuaded him to stay on.

Early in 2002 Ferguson's position at Old Trafford was as strong as ever. Having completed a league hat-trick United were heading for a record-breaking fourth successive championship. A second Champions League triumph also appeared well within the team's capabilities.

Then, bit by bit, some of the old assumptions began to evaporate. That season Arsenal pipped Manchester United to win the Premiership and Bayer Leverkusen beat them on away goals in the Champions League semi-finals.

The flying boot kicked across the dressing room by an angry manager, which accidentally left David Beckham with a cut eyebrow and is still regarded by some as the moment when Ferguson's powers began to wane, was still nearly a year away but already his change of heart on quitting when ahead was looking questionable.

Yet so long as Manchester United were qualifying for the Champions League on an annual basis the threat to Ferguson 's position was prompted more by speculation than reality. He survived a long-running feud with the club 's two major shareholders, JP McManus and John Magnier, over a racehorse's stud fees and was left untouched when the pair queried his football agent son Jason's involvement with some transfer deals.

Nevertheless once Ferguson's contract expires at the end of June he will be on a 12-month rolling agreement that will be reviewed, by both club and manager, on an annual basis. Add to this the likelihood that United are about to go two seasons with-out the title for the first time since the Premier League was born in 1992 and the fact that once again they have made minimal progress in the knockout stage of the Champions League, and the possibility of Ferguson leaving at a moment not of his choosing is less unthinkable.

The news that pre-tax profits at Old Trafford have fallen by more than 50%to £12.4m was no surprise given the down payment on the £27m spent on Wayne Rooney.

United now need not one but two competent goalkeepers as well as a replacement for Roy Keane and will have to sell to buy knowing that Chelsea can outbid and outspend them at will.

Hence the stir created when, in a BBC Radio Five Live interview, David Gill, United 's chief executive,conceded that even Fergie was dismissable. "He is sackable," said Gill. "We live in a pressurised sport."

Nevertheless when it comes to pressure Ferguson is fortunate in his employers. United 's fellow aristocrats on mainland Europe would have given him much shorter shrift, not so much for failing to win the national league but for consistently coming up short in the Champions League.

In the six seasons since Manchester United won the European Cup they have won only one tie at the knockout stage.Their record in two-leg encounters is :P14 W3 D4 L7. If ever they failed to qualify for the competition proper it would be the financial equivalent of relegation back home. Gill bleeped like a reversing HGV when his radio comments hit the headlines.

Replacing Ferguson, "has not even entered our psyche at the moment", he said. At the moment? Hmmmmm ...

Fergie surely will not be sacked. He will still pick his time to pack it in. But even the best managers can stay on too long. Stan Cullis outlived his long-ball era at Wolves, Bill Nicholson became disillusioned trying to recreate Tottenham's Double-winning team in a greedier, more cynical football age and Brian Clough's successful years with Nottingham Forest ended in booze, tears and relegation.

None of which should apply to Ferguson.Yet he will not need telling that in football fame is ephemeral and today's results matter more than yesterday's glory. And sooner rather than later, maybe at the end of next season, he will again feel he has had enough - and this time mean it.

Meanwhile United supporters must be having nightmares about a Fergie-less Manchester United owned by Malcolm Glazer, the elderly American non-fan whose repeated bids for the club keep cropping up like mouth ulcers.
 

barthez4

Senior Squad
b-ytter said:
well,nobody take's freekick's like Beckham so we got that sorted out!
But he still got a nice freekick,just need some time to learn how to get it past the keeper!need to hit them harder,the curl and position is nice!
(H)

i'd like to see Kieran Richardson take a few, the guy has a great shot from distance. i recall a few times he's taken absolutely brilliant shots from 40+ yards out, a few times in WBA's side, and i recall one early on in a match vs Blackburn that we tied
 

eassam

Youth Team
we shud buy frey, and joaquin or vincente, all our problems will be solved and yes sell ruud, he has no worth in our team anymore and with the money buy f.torres or some big signing!
 

barthez4

Senior Squad
eassam said:
we shud buy frey, and joaquin or vincente, all our problems will be solved and yes sell ruud, he has no worth in our team anymore and with the money buy f.torres or some big signing!

how can you say to sell ruud? give him some time to recover man, in the next 3-4 games he will be almost back to his old self.
 

ngyc

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eassam said:
we shud buy frey, and joaquin or vincente, all our problems will be solved and yes sell ruud, he has no worth in our team anymore and with the money buy f.torres or some big signing!

look at ruud's record. if you sell a player just because he can't find his best form in few matches after he back from injury, then you might sell whole team at the end of the season.
 

barthez4

Senior Squad
ngyc said:
look at ruud's record. if you sell a player just because he can't find his best form in few matches after he back from injury, then you might sell whole team at the end of the season.
:jambo: :rockman:
 

Andrejs

Starting XI
eassam said:
we shud buy frey, and joaquin or vincente, all our problems will be solved and yes sell ruud, he has no worth in our team anymore and with the money buy f.torres or some big signing!


Shut the **** up, stop taking those pills and come back sober.
 

b-ytter

Starting XI
Sure it would be nice if we buy frey, joaquin or vincente but i think we need some players for the future too!
we shoud go after Blackburn's Morten Gamst Pedersen,we almost did buy him,but Blackburn came first to it.seeing him play this vinter i can only say we did the wrong call not to buy him!
he would have been a cheap replacement for Giggs (when he retires)
he is a good dribbler,crosser,cornerkicker and freekicker he is also good with his head!
that is a lot of quality for a player that is still at a low age (23 ithink)
Anyway i dont think Blackburn will sell him as cheap as they got him!
My biggest concerne is who will replace Keane when he retires??
(H)
 

mufc_daddy

Starting XI
On the UEFA Champions League Magazine show there was an interview with Michael Essien. All he talked about in the interview was Man United.

When asked:

Favourite player: Cantona
Toughest Opponent: Scholes
Favourite Ground: Old Trafford
Favourite Game: Man United (this yr in CL).

He's a class player and i see him doing the job when Keane retires (god forbid!)
 

houston3721

Senior Squad
mufc_daddy said:
On the UEFA Champions League Magazine show there was an interview with Michael Essien. All he talked about in the interview was Man United.

When asked:

Favourite player: Cantona
Toughest Opponent: Scholes
Favourite Ground: Old Trafford
Favourite Game: Man United (this yr in CL).

He's a class player and i see him doing the job when Keane retires (god forbid!)
It seems that he is really interested in joining us. :rolleyes:
He is most likely to be a Red Devil in the next season.
 

b-ytter

Starting XI
Kieran wants United chance!!

West Brom loan-star Kieran Richardson has urged Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson to give him a chance when he returns to Old Trafford - insisting that he can become a regular.
Richardson has quickly won over Baggies fans with his pacey displays through midfield after joining the club on loan from United.
However, the England under-21 international wants to show that he can play for The Red Devils on a regular basis when he returns in the summer.
"When you hear the club have no money to spend it is good," he told The People. "It gives you more chance of being brought on.
"Manchester United are a great club and there will always be competition but I'm up for the challenge.
"When I go back I think I will have a far greater chance of establishing myself in the first team.
"I want to go back next season and be a regular

(H)


http://footballmsn.skysports.com/li...ran+wants+United+chance&channel=Football_Home
 

ngyc

Fan Favourite
"When you hear the club have no money to spend it is good,"

my ass. is not good because we can't buy some decent player even is available and see they go to other club just because we have no/not enough money to bid for them
 

barthez4

Senior Squad
ngyc said:
my ass. is not good because we can't buy some decent player even is available and see they go to other club just because we have no/not enough money to bid for them

right now, i think it's kind of good that we have limited money. it makes us have to trim the fat with the players who won't make it, and then we can buy someone like Essien and keep it at that. it's good for developing the younger players, especially since we have young players like Rooney/Ronaldo in the squad.

i'd LOVE to see Kieran Richardson get some more runs in for United, he's a class player IMO
 

fedemanya24

Club Supporter
MAN UTD sold Forlan to villareal and now he is the second in the Top Scorer List.............................
Manchester has nobady on thier the thart is similar to forlan....WHAT A GREAT MISTAKE
 

Help?

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fedemanya24 said:
MAN UTD sold Forlan to villareal and now he is the second in the Top Scorer List.............................
Manchester has nobady on thier the thart is similar to forlan....WHAT A GREAT MISTAKE
What are you talking about? Did you even watch him play for United? The only good pass he could do, is when it's a pass back and he even sometimes messed up that. He had so many chances and also BEckham and sometimes Veron to get passes from that. He got lots of chances but messed them up. You know, not all players play the same in different leagues.
 
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