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Michael Carlos*son dead at 50

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cmc211

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And I found that there is a virus which is imported in file of MJ's picture and his song videos which are posted on board or sended via email.
That isn't spreaded widely yet. Only in my country now.
 
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goal_machine84

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INFESTA;2694076 said:
Ammmm, know what, we shouldn't be arguing. If you think that dude was a good parent then we clearly have different concepts of parenthood, and should leave it at that.
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Well, you said he stopped caring for his children and I wanted to know how you came to that conclusion as you didn't say exactly how he was a bad parent.

Therefore, I assumed you meant to give an example such as the Baby Dangling 'incident' which I said was blown out of proportions by the media.

About the peadophile accusations, I said he settled out of court as he was too busy to deal with court cases and wanted to get it sorted asap. You believe he did that to hide his crimes.

Each to their own I suppose :)
 
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Mandieta6

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goal_machine84;2694627 said:
Therefore, I assumed you meant to give an example such as the Baby Dangling 'incident' which I said was blown out of proportions by the media.

About the peadophile accusations, I said he settled out of court as he was too busy to deal with court cases and wanted to get it sorted asap. You believe he did that to hide his crimes.

Each to their own I suppose :)
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Blown out of proportions? Explain, please, how was that normal behaviour and how was it 'blown out of proportions'?

Also, the bolded part shows why you're still arguing. You act as if each has their opinion, but your opinion is delivered as fact. When I read your posts I was about to ask for proof because it sounded like some ultimate truth. INFESTA's opinion is as possible as yours. He wasn't convicted of being a pedofile, true, he still could be, and he still might not be. Well, not anymore, being dead and all that.
 
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goal_machine84

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Mandieta6;2694977 said:
Blown out of proportions? Explain, please, how was that normal behaviour and how was it 'blown out of proportions'?
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It was blown out proportion by the media by making it appear like he had actually dangled his baby up and down like a yo-yo. The guy held his child with both hands for like 2 seconds in front of the balcony and media go ape**** about bad parenting. It just shows they are desperate for anything mj does to make it into front page news.

Mandieta6;2694977 said:
Also, the bolded part shows why you're still arguing. You act as if each has their opinion, but your opinion is delivered as fact. When I read your posts I was about to ask for proof because it sounded like some ultimate truth. INFESTA's opinion is as possible as yours. He wasn't convicted of being a pedofile, true, he still could be, and he still might not be. Well, not anymore, being dead and all that.
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*Sigh*

I did not have any intention of preaching, just offered my opinion. I already acknowledged the possibility of him being a pedo in my earlier post. But I believe he is not, others believe he is.

That is why I ended my post as each to their own. Feel free to ask me for proof if my posts seem to be the ultimate truth.
 
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Mandieta6

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The media showed what happened. What I saw is a man taking his baby to the balcony and dangling his kid off the railing. That might not be bad parenting, but no good parent would ever do that. I know many parents and they go ape**** if their baby so much as gets a scratch, how demented would one have to be to HOLD THEIR CHILD OFF A BALCONY? All you'd need is one photographer to flash MJ in the eyes and he could drop the kid. I don't see the middle ground, as a parent you protect your child, not place them in unnecessary danger.

1 second, 2 seconds, it doesn't matter. You'd get the same reaction if MJ had pointed a loaded gun at the baby. You might say 'but he'd never SHOOT', that's beside the point, you don't point a loaded gun at someone, and you don't dangle a baby off a ******* balcony. The only way you can get away with it would be if you fastened the baby with a harness, and the baby was actually several years old. ****'s sake. I'm pretty sure it's some sorts of illegal to endanger a child like that and if it weren't MJ, you'd be just as outraged as anyone else. Why? Because it's ******* insane.
 
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Mandieta6;2696764 said:
I know many parents and they go ape**** if their baby so much as gets a scratch, how demented would one have to be to HOLD THEIR CHILD OFF A BALCONY?
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So, clearly parents don't go ape**** generally with a scratch. Parents play with their babies. They even hold them high and throw them a feet in the air vertically and catch them. I am sure you must have atleast seen it once.

And I guess I may be more tolerant towards 'baby dangling' cos I am used to seeing this :

 
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Mandieta6

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That's your defense? Kids getting into accidents? There are worse parents out there than MJ, but it doesn't mean what he did is in any way excusable.
 
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MJ was made to look like an incredible human being (and even that was hard to do) thanks to his billions of dollars. If he was less famous and rich he would have been vilified.
 
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Mandieta6;2697034 said:
That's your defense? Kids getting into accidents? There are worse parents out there than MJ, but it doesn't mean what he did is in any way excusable.
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Ahmmm, again, it's just different concepts of good/bad parenthood clashing. I also can't conceive a decent parent dangling babies off a balcony. If I did that to any of my friends' children they would kill me. Literally, they would ******* kill me.
 
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King

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I am sick and tired of watching about him on TV. Every channel I put on has his **** on! He isn't a god, and there is more important **** going on in this world than he being dead.
 
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goal_machine84

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Mandieta6;2697034 said:
That's your defense? Kids getting into accidents? There are worse parents out there than MJ, but it doesn't mean what he did is in any way excusable.
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INFESTA;2697131 said:
Ahmmm, again, it's just different concepts of good/bad parenthood clashing. I also can't conceive a decent parent dangling babies off a balcony. If I did that to any of my friends' children they would kill me. Literally, they would ******* kill me.
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Ah the expected argument of "showing something worse doesn't make the 'bad' thing better ".

Both of you, answer this question ( Hope i don't sound rude or disrespectful) :

-Have you been thrown vertically up ( a feet or two ) by your parents when you were a little kid and caught on the way back down ? ( Ask them ).

I think George Carlin summed up in one of his vids about over parenting and excessive child obssession of the parents. Anything remotely 'risky' makes them go nuts.

The potential of risk is in everything if you look at everything as only risky.

e.g. In the baby accident video above, at 45 seconds, a baby is driving a go kart like bike which he hits some tires with and falls down doing a front flip.

There is potential of fatal injury here, as the kid is falling, his head hits the ground and during the flip, his spinal cord can be damaged or even some other kid can run over him. Would you consider the parents of that kid to be the worse parents in the world ? Or even bad parents for that matter ?

If your parents did throw u up vertically when u were a kid, some media guy can write " Mr X throws his baby up in the air at the mercy of gravity !! OMGG !! "

They won't point out that you will be caught on the way back. They only emphasize the risk part. Nothing else matters to them.

With MJ, that emphasis is amplified a thousand times. MJ didn't dangle his baby, he held the baby for 2 seconds over the balcony. I have seen parents holding their kids on the edge of terraces and even playing with other kids while holding their kid with one hand right here in North America. How about taking the baby in the swimming pool ? Or putting the baby in the front seat of the car with no seatbelt attached ? What if the baby drowned or gets seriously hurt in a relatively minor car accident ? Isn't that ******* 'insane' or is it 'normal' ?
 
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