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Schalle80

Club Supporter
Hey Fidel ,

Thank you for your answer! I am very Interessted in your db testing. Its ok with Release for me. You have done so much for us, and i am glad that you do this. Is your db with extra Teams, or with default db Teams? I think your gameplay is great, but i love Real football. Your gp is much more realistic than default, but its sometimes arcarde style. I think passing is too easy, Long passing is too easy, there is no great risk to make a Long pass. I like the feeling of Freedom in the game(passing and sprinting, positioniering) i like mistakes, like in real footbal. I like strongerdefense, hard tackle. I have modified your ai for me, its good style, but no Fouls and too fast without your db. Sorry i Write with handy, my t9 is Not for english!😩 where are you from?

Grüße aus dem weltmeisterland😉🇩🇪
 

maskrey

Club Supporter
Hey Fidel, you can pm me the link for the career db. I'm pretty busy tomorrow, but I probably can test it a bit before release. I want to see the stats of lower rated players too, because it's important in career mode. The WC db have mostly good teams, so I haven't tested how the bad teams perform.
For the image you showed, I think the stats are a bit unjustified. Chiellini is probably top 5 CB in the world at the moment, with only 74 overall; Pirlo is DEFINITELY top 3 CM, and only has 79 overall. There is no way Pirlo should have lower rating than Llorente, in any game, ever. I personally don't care that much about the stats, only the gameplay, but in career mode rating is crucial, especially with the new scouting system.
I know the price fix etc should be done in cmsettings; maybe you can release the db now and look into that later; I can help a bit with that.
Have you thought of manually adjusting the ratings for some of the best players? The rating system in FIFA has the tendency to equalize players; I think gameplayzer did something to cancel that, and you probably did more, but using only automated formulas can leave unfortunate cases like above. Sometimes it's not even the formula, it's the stats that is just wrong. For example, Pirlo should get whatever the highest rating assigned in the game for at least Long Pass, Short Pass, and Vision, 95-ish in Ball Control, and top tier free kick stats. With those alone, I don't see how he can fall to 79 overall. Or Messi, I bet he has like above 80 for long pass, but when is the last time you see him make a long pass? At least in the WC I didn't see him throw ANY long pass at all. What I'm trying to say is, players should get really good starts for what they are good at, and bad stats for other things, something considerably bad, like 5x-6x or worse. And that probably requires a lot of manual editing.
I won't judge more till I play the game and see the stats. Those are just my suggestions, they may work, they may break the game. Also, as you said, what is good is subjective. I will also try to edit some players myself after getting your db.
 

fidoulou

Club Supporter
Fidel Gameplay;3711769 said:
Hello to everyone, is out a new tool, check out!
Big thanks for all posts! Wait a few minute, I'm uploading just now!

Updated post here:

love the new arena, the old one was impressive but the new one is MARVELOUS !!

simply the best :Carlos*o:
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
Hello to everyone,
the new gp evo db is almost ready, it require only some fix on player's stats,
maskrey made a big feedback work via pm and send me fantastic suggestion for more and important players superstars, the first version come out on the night or max tomorrow (it don't include all players transfers), you understand that for made a big db require time.
Please patience and don't worry.
Make a good gp database takes a lot of time because on the new gp evo db a lot of players are edited individually.
The first version come out without leagues update (2014/2015) and wc stadiums addon.
Anyway the new gp evo db is ready to edit with cm14, in this way if you want, you can tweak/edit yourself,
before start your new career.

Some features/details about current gp evo db
(beta out for some hard beta testers like maskrey, campeador and Schalle80, full details, soon at official post!):

FIFA 14 ADVANCED GAMEPLAY EVOLUTION DB UPDATE
VERSION: 3.0 - ADV. GP EVO DB for Career Mode
26/07/2014

Native Base database used:
Ariel MODDINGWAY MOD DATABASE 6.0

DETAILS/FIX LIST:
- Gameplayzed with Fifaccitiu Tool (latest Matrix)
- Gameplayzed with Fifaccitiu Tool (my edited 2nd Matrix)
- GP EVO Real Player's Stats
- GP EVO Player's Traits and Specialities addons
- GP EVO Team's Traits - Specialities and Custom Tactics
- Real Stamina Global System
- Superstars Players edited individually
- Real referee cards and fouls strictness attributes
- New Match Intensity Mod
- New Big Attendance Mod
- Important Players Summer Tranfers (new season 2014/2015)
- All wc National Teams
- All players kit techfit enabled
- Extra Teams Unlocked
- All previous Database Improvements

This isn't a complete/full addons list.

Some pics about James Rodriguez stats/traits (Real Madrid) - GP EVO DB 3 SERIES













Bye bye

Edit:
I've I replied to some pm. Sorry the delay!
Who pm to me soon receive a reply!
Big thanks to everyone for all comments!
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
Schalle80;3712259 said:
Hey Fidel ,

Thank you for your answer! I am very Interessted in your db testing. Its ok with Release for me. You have done so much for us, and i am glad that you do this. Is your db with extra Teams, or with default db Teams? I think your gameplay is great, but i love Real football. Your gp is much more realistic than default, but its sometimes arcarde style. I think passing is too easy, Long passing is too easy, there is no great risk to make a Long pass. I like the feeling of Freedom in the game(passing and sprinting, positioniering) i like mistakes, like in real footbal. I like strongerdefense, hard tackle. I have modified your ai for me, its good style, but no Fouls and too fast without your db. Sorry i Write with handy, my t9 is Not for english!😩 where are you from?
Grüße aus dem weltmeisterland😉🇩🇪

Big thanks for all suggestions, check you pm for db.
After the new db will made a new ai version specify for career mode.
I'm italian.
Bye

maskrey;3712266 said:
Hey Fidel, you can pm me the link for the career db. I'm pretty busy tomorrow, but I probably can test it a bit before release. I want to see the stats of lower rated players too, because it's important in career mode. The WC db have mostly good teams, so I haven't tested how the bad teams perform.
For the image you showed, I think the stats are a bit unjustified. Chiellini is probably top 5 CB in the world at the moment, with only 74 overall; Pirlo is DEFINITELY top 3 CM, and only has 79 overall. There is no way Pirlo should have lower rating than Llorente, in any game, ever. I personally don't care that much about the stats, only the gameplay, but in career mode rating is crucial, especially with the new scouting system.
I know the price fix etc should be done in cmsettings; maybe you can release the db now and look into that later; I can help a bit with that.
Have you thought of manually adjusting the ratings for some of the best players? The rating system in FIFA has the tendency to equalize players; I think gameplayzer did something to cancel that, and you probably did more, but using only automated formulas can leave unfortunate cases like above. Sometimes it's not even the formula, it's the stats that is just wrong. For example, Pirlo should get whatever the highest rating assigned in the game for at least Long Pass, Short Pass, and Vision, 95-ish in Ball Control, and top tier free kick stats. With those alone, I don't see how he can fall to 79 overall. Or Messi, I bet he has like above 80 for long pass, but when is the last time you see him make a long pass? At least in the WC I didn't see him throw ANY long pass at all. What I'm trying to say is, players should get really good starts for what they are good at, and bad stats for other things, something considerably bad, like 5x-6x or worse. And that probably requires a lot of manual editing.
I won't judge more till I play the game and see the stats. Those are just my suggestions, they may work, they may break the game. Also, as you said, what is good is subjective. I will also try to edit some players myself after getting your db.

Big thanks for all tips and pm tips about some players, you are very accurate on see/post problems/tips/issues.
It's coming a great dtabase, users will thank you too!

fidoulou;3712273 said:
love the new arena, the old one was impressive but the new one is MARVELOUS !!

simply the best :Carlos*o:

Enjoy bro, when I've free time will check out also po use thise arena in night illumination, or overcast. Bye
 

Schalle80

Club Supporter
hey fidel,

my feedback for your db and gameplay.

i think is the best gameplay ever, the ai plays very intellegent, a little little bit slower will be ok for me. the ballphysik (shot, passing) is amaziing, i like it very much. in all, for me is the gameplay a little bit to powerfull, like dortmund, but 90 minutes. a little bit tiki taka will be ok too;-)

the things i miss:

-backpass to goalkeeper, i never seen this in 4 games
-long passes are no great risk
-dribbling is too good, not much inzterceptions by dribbling
i wish to see more simulation in gameplay, mistakes by passes, crosses shoots, more stumble.
- a bit less attacker in the box by crosses
- more confusion in gameplay.

i know ea has hardcodet some things, in what i say about gameplay is no criticism, only what i miss.

many thanks for your work...you amazing...

italia? next time it will be better;-)

schalle
 

Hampa

Club Supporter
Hey fiddle, I got some feedback to about the new gameplay:

First I was so exited didnt know what to expect, the ball controll is totaly different then original fifa, and it is not bad, but the one thing I dont like is that the game now feels so generic and automatic like the ball doesn't have freadom.
Passes are like on PES, you cant make a mistake unless u lower pass acc in sliders,
and shooting is a bit overpowerd.
Overall I like the gameplay, but the main thing with ur gameplay that I liked was that freadom that I had in fifa, I could nutmeg the defender in earlyer gameplay and pass him in some different ways, now everything is some kinde automatic.
Thank you for your hard work and everything hope u will take this feedback nicely.
Bye :)
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
Schalle80;3712891 said:
hey fidel,

my feedback for your db and gameplay.

i think is the best gameplay ever, the ai plays very intellegent, a little little bit slower will be ok for me. the ballphysik (shot, passing) is amaziing, i like it very much. in all, for me is the gameplay a little bit to powerfull, like dortmund, but 90 minutes. a little bit tiki taka will be ok too;-)

the things i miss:

-backpass to goalkeeper, i never seen this in 4 games
-long passes are no great risk
-dribbling is too good, not much inzterceptions by dribbling
i wish to see more simulation in gameplay, mistakes by passes, crosses shoots, more stumble.
- a bit less attacker in the box by crosses
- more confusion in gameplay.

i know ea has hardcodet some things, in what i say about gameplay is no criticism, only what i miss.

many thanks for your work...you amazing...

italia? next time it will be better;-)

schalle

CeDxLatino;3712916 said:
The problem with this gameplay is that every team play tiki-taka. You can't even tackle a player.

Hampa;3712918 said:
Hey fiddle, I got some feedback to about the new gameplay:

First I was so exited didnt know what to expect, the ball controll is totaly different then original fifa, and it is not bad, but the one thing I dont like is that the game now feels so generic and automatic like the ball doesn't have freadom.
Passes are like on PES, you cant make a mistake unless u lower pass acc in sliders,
and shooting is a bit overpowerd.
Overall I like the gameplay, but the main thing with ur gameplay that I liked was that freadom that I had in fifa, I could nutmeg the defender in earlyer gameplay and pass him in some different ways, now everything is some kinde automatic.
Thank you for your hard work and everything hope u will take this feedback nicely.
Bye :)

CeDxLatino;3712930 said:
This is too hard for me. Is it possible to preserve default gameplay with the animations, the better mentality, etc?

Hello to everyone, big thanks for all feedback and posts.
After reading these 3 post/feedbacks, I've released a new ai included in a gameplay beta full pack.
I don't have updated the db (the db is the same as new db beta1).
Check out if the new stats cause issues in player's prices/values.
The big beta testing is now on sg forum!

For everyone want to try the effect of full combo, you can download the full pack here: http://1drv.ms/1q43o8b
include new gp evo AI, new gp evo db for career (first public version - 3.0 beta1), hg 3.0, ice and camera mods.


info new ai and new db:

FIFA 14 ADVANCED GAMEPLAY EVOLUTION
VERSION: 4.3 - ADV. GP EVO AI SPECIAL FOR GP EVO DB 3 SERIES
27/07/14


This is for Career Mode, for test the full combo you must start a new career.

After sg forum feedback I've released this new version.

DETAILS/FIX LIST/NEW TWEAKS:
- Increased tackles skills globally
(a lot of advantages for humans to take the ball at cpu)
- Decreased Kinetic Energy
- Revisited ball physics
- Decreased long passing skills (more errors)
- Resulting increased number of pass errors
- Increased cpuai mistakes
- All previous Database Improvements

Tested now in career mode (full pack),
cpuai poor/weak teams are poor and also the same for players.

To install go to favorite combo pack folder (AI, DB, HG_AI, HG_DB_AI)
Copy Game folder into your FIFA 14 MAIN folder (\Origin Games\FIFA 14)
Overwrite files. Regenerate game files.

FOR FULL GAMEPLAY EXPERIENCE YOU MUST INSTALL:
HG+DB+AI+MY SLIDERS/GAME SETTINGS.

In the folder MY_SLIDERS_SETTINGS are also stored pics of suggested controller/game settings.
Anyway you can setup game difficulty (for your gameplay taste) from game options.

Try the full combo in career mode and send feedback (or try your favorite combo).
How to test:
Start game,don't delete your actual rosters,
when the game at start ask damaged squads file -skip it (don't delete).
Restore squads at game start and then save a new roster file.
Now load new squads file.
Play friendly mode, check out first preview.
Start a new career if you want to try the full gp effect.


For try the db you must have MDWM installed because
the Native Base database used is Ariel's MODDINGWAY MOD DATABASE 6.0.


Some db info in related txt file:
FIFA 14 ADVANCED GAMEPLAY EVOLUTION DB UPDATE
VERSION: 3.0 - ADV. GP EVO DB for Career Mode
26/07/2014


Native Base database used:
Ariel MODDINGWAY MOD DATABASE 6.0

DETAILS/FIX LIST:
- Gameplayzed with Fifaccitiu Tool (latest Matrix)
- Gameplayzed with Fifaccitiu Tool (my edited 2nd Matrix)
- GP EVO Real Player's Stats
- GP EVO Player's Traits and Specialities addons
- GP EVO Team's Traits - Specialities and Custom Tactics
- Real Stamina Global System
- Superstars Players edited individually
- Real referee cards and fouls strictness attributes
- New Match Intensity Mod
- New Big Attendance Mod
- Important Players Summer Tranfers (new season 2014/2015)
- All wc National Teams
- All players kit techfit enabled
- Extra Teams Unlocked
- All previous Database Improvements

Beta version (db is the same as beta 1 out on beta testers).

Enjoy!
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
Waiting for some feedback about the whole full combo pack installed.
Is marking at 75 too high in cpu sliders settings? (my old values for this was 55).
Remember to follow my steps and restore squads in order to enable new db.
Start a new career and select default rosters (suggested) or your new saved/customized based on the new db.
Bye
 

maskrey

Club Supporter
I already mentioned this in my pm to Fidel, that good teams almost always play tiqui-taca. However, if you try some matches with average/weaker teams, you will see they play long balls a lot more. About tackles, I'm not mad if the CPU passes to dodge my defenders, but I'm starting to see more of the ninja dodging from the CPU, much like FIFA 13, only less annoying. The biggest problem right now is cross accuracy and header accuracy. Fidel, you need to decrease those stats globally immediately; good players almost never miss a header, and I can do little to stop both the crossing and the heading. Anyway, I haven't tried 4.3 AI, so I will give some more feedback when I do.

For a variety of gameplay, what we need to do is custom formation/tactics for every teams. This will need a lot of work from people who watch different leagues. We can do specific set for top teams (maybe all CL/Europa teams + all teams in first division from England/France/Spain/Germany/Italy, maybe some more teams). For other teams, we can make generic formations/tactics for different playstyle (slow buildup/long ball/ crossing-heavy/ defending-heavy, etc). I have done some work on custom formation/tactic before, and it affected the way both CPU/human AI play a great deal. However, to make custom formations/tactic for many teams, it's too much work to do by myself, or even by only several people. It is a big project, but I hope we can come together and make it happen, at least for FIFA 15. If you don't believe custom tactics and formations can make a big difference, try some editing yourself and play. Some stuffs that make noticeable difference: buildup speed and passing slider, pressure and aggression slider, attacking and defending directions for each player in formation.
 

Schalle80

Club Supporter
hey fidel,

i am back from rw essen-borussia dortmund, and now i will download your full combo. in my modifierd ai, a play a little bit with the ball controll. i think its a part for more realism, antiarcade gameplay. the reactions by the player are too good.

ok enough words. i will test it now.

bye

schalle
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
maskrey;3713008 said:
I already mentioned this in my pm to Fidel, that good teams almost always play tiqui-taca. However, if you try some matches with average/weaker teams, you will see they play long balls a lot more. About tackles, I'm not mad if the CPU passes to dodge my defenders, but I'm starting to see more of the ninja dodging from the CPU, much like FIFA 13, only less annoying. The biggest problem right now is cross accuracy and header accuracy. Fidel, you need to decrease those stats globally immediately; good players almost never miss a header, and I can do little to stop both the crossing and the heading. Anyway, I haven't tried 4.3 AI, so I will give some more feedback when I do.

For a variety of gameplay, what we need to do is custom formation/tactics for every teams. This will need a lot of work from people who watch different leagues. We can do specific set for top teams (maybe all CL/Europa teams + all teams in first division from England/France/Spain/Germany/Italy, maybe some more teams). For other teams, we can make generic formations/tactics for different playstyle (slow buildup/long ball/ crossing-heavy/ defending-heavy, etc). I have done some work on custom formation/tactic before, and it affected the way both CPU/human AI play a great deal. However, to make custom formations/tactic for many teams, it's too much work to do by myself, or even by only several people. It is a big project, but I hope we can come together and make it happen, at least for FIFA 15. If you don't believe custom tactics and formations can make a big difference, try some editing yourself and play. Some stuffs that make noticeable difference: buildup speed and passing slider, pressure and aggression slider, attacking and defending directions for each player in formation.

Schalle80;3713075 said:
hey fidel,

i am back from rw essen-borussia dortmund, and now i will download your full combo. in my modifierd ai, a play a little bit with the ball controll. i think its a part for more realism, antiarcade gameplay. the reactions by the player are too good.

ok enough words. i will test it now.

bye

schalle

Hello, big thanks for all your time! Really big thanks to maskrey (also Schalle80) for really hard testing phase and suggestions.
You can understand that when you change/edit/tweak the true heart of the gameplay engine, you have to readjust all.
All the feedbacks inspire me to do better, more and more and here you can read what is the situation about the gameplay and issues fix.
Header and cross accuracy it's caused by HG 3.0 (wc attribdb).
In the fact I've solved the accuracy problem merging HG 3.0 and latest official EA Gameplay attridb - 1.4 latest official update.
I've also updated the gp evo with some other new implementations, I've reduced player momentum and ball reading trajectory.
Tomorrow come out a new full gp combo, with new AI and new HG.
Match become difficulty, every shot is really difficulty, cpu script completely gone, this is the best thing,
by removing cpu script, you will see really the human effect simulation into the game when you play against the cpuai.
Now for example when you are on advantage, the cpu finally don't creates the "draw tendency", but this is the moment when the ai become aggressive, and now you must control the match (this is very important). The match just depends on what happens on the field on not on pre-scripted ai reaction and it easy score into your net, finally this situation there is no more into the match.
Played a match in career mode, first official juve match versus lazio, ita supercup, I win the match because, my defender works fine, also my strikers, big match, big fouls, fantastic ai shots, but buffon really save me in many situations.
This is the match end statistics of new upcoming gp pack/update:
to interpret/understand the statistics you must first read my message/post.

I'll upload the new pack tomorrow, I'm finalizing to test some new settings.
Other changes and addons on dribbling system/ball system will be included.

Match played also for made a test of new particles mod - it come out in these next days
(you can see a part of the mod in this pic):
 

bantu86

Club Supporter
Is it the right order to install?

1) Moddingway 3.0.0
2) Moddingway 3.1.0
3) Your combo (HG_DB_AI)
4) Your sliders setting

thanks
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
bantu86;3713235 said:
Is it the right order to install?

1) Moddingway 3.0.0
2) Moddingway 3.1.0
3) Your combo (HG_DB_AI) + Regenerate with FM14
4) Your sliders setting
5) Start game restore squads.

thanks

Hello, yes perfect steps sequences.
Anyway try the actual combo, but I suggest you to wait, because in a few hours come out a new combo pack, read my latest yesterday post.
Bye
 

Fidel Gameplay

Senior Squad
..continue to my latest post on yesterday, this is another match played with new upcoming combo (career mode - new full combo- samp cpuai):



And just for fun:





Stay tuned!
 


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