[MOD] MODS by Doctor+ Productions (Fidel Gameplay)

[maseren]

Ok, i am still confused by this, so if someone can ellaborate i would very much appreciate it. What is hybrid play? ie... if i run ai+db vs ai+db+hybrid or i run ai+hybrid.

How does it all work? If anyone other than Fidel can explain this it would be great as I know he's swamped

 

[dazzer169]

manual install files please.

agreed.........I always manually install, as great as Fidel's auto installer is, you know exactly where you are when manually copying them over.

 

[dazzer169]

So now that we're ok on the gameplay with the Ai-Hg-db (by the way, what about the "UsePropPhysActivationJobs=1" thing, is it really making a difference?), still no sliders concensus but it's fine.

We should now attack a new parameter, wichn is the player's wage and value.

I don't know if there is a patch like last year with the Corleone thing, but it will be great to have something like that this year, especially in the career mode to avoid having all the players moving to other low club.

I was typing up a post here last night regarding this entry where I thought I initially noticed a big difference from v1.0 to v1.2 when disabling/enabling this "UsePropPhysActivationJobs=1" setting at first (which is enabled in v1.1 and v1.2), but then after further testing it felt I had overemphasised that parameter so deleted the post, wasn't too sure if it was making the difference like it had first looked like, possibly Placebo effect!

I think the paragraph with the:-

PHYSICAL_STAMINA = 0
PHYSICAL_REACTIONS = 0
PHYSICAL_BALANCE = 0

that Fidel changed from v1.0 to v.1.2 (introduced I think in v1.1 too) made a bigger difference but testing hasn't proved clear enough yet.

I know all the parameters Fidel has changed between v1.0 to v1.2 (and v1.1) but the mystery is as to just which setting makes the huge difference.

Loving all the testing though, if it wasn't for the great/fantastic/brilliant AI v1.0, I wouldn't be going through all this, all good times!

 

[kaicooper]

hi Fidel

how should i know if really ur Evo mod is working?

 

[darkoj2007]

Fidel thanks for the awesome work can you share with us your sliders? thanks..

 

[Fidel Gameplay]

Fidel, I've just sent you a PM with my "locale.big" file.
I hope you can help me solve my problem skipping the language selection screen and having the spa_mx /or spa_es at the same time! THANKS!

I answered to you and uploaded hex edited file. Bye

Hey everyone, and thanks a lot Fidel for providing us with "Fifa 14 - Realistic edition".

Well, i installed the cowd utility, then the ModdingWay 0.5, the Ai db latest version and finally the Hybrid Gameplay thing and regenerated all.

I choosed the 2.0 db in the MW selector(i gess it's ok) and the game run fine.

The only thing remainnig for the ultimate Fifa experience is a nice set of sliders that are made for the Fidel combo Ai-db-Hybrid.

So if anyone can post a set here, it will be very nice.

Have fun everyone and thaks again Fidel for all your work.

Hello, thanks for congratulations!
Do you must apply my db through my latest tool 2 (or manual installation) after ModdigWay mod installation.
Otherwise the MW selector (I mean for the db) overwrite my db in game folder.
Remember to restore rosters in game.
Read my info and tips contained on tool2.
Bye

Rainbows.....................NOW WORK FOR CPU!!!!
I have just witnessed for the first time ever in a football game (ok, leaving FIFA Street out of this as it revolves around all these tricks), a CPU player do a Rainbow Flick!!!

Fidel, at first you thought your early Mods had caused the problem where none of the Rainbow attempts worked for the CPU (with your ball weight, inertia changes etc), until I explained to you that 100% of the time they were failing the same way each time before and after your early mods.................and in the back of my mind, I felt that with you changing the ball physics, weight, inertia etc as well as making player animations look more organic and smoother, then maybe eventually you will make the Rainbows work for CPU players, kind of by accident.................

Well, would you believe it, tonight is a magical night. I have tried all your Mods, AI v1.0, AI v1.1, AI v1.2, and AI v1.2 + v1.0 Hybrid (all with DB 0.5 I haven't tried 0.6 yet)........but reverted tonight back to Fidel AI v1.0 and added Fidel v1.0 Hybrid to make it ''Fidel AI v1.0 + Fidel v1.0 Hybrid'', and it truly made the gameplay I was watching (as usual, CPU Barca vs CPU Real Madrid, Legendary, Normal Speed) stunning, it was unlike anything I have ever witnessed.............you have put together a combination that looks sooooo unlike the default EA exe v1.02 gameplay, the play is so slick and as your Doc's describe, more tricks/skills are showing due to the AttribdbGameplay addition via Hybrid.

Back to the magic..................yes, it actually happened, I saw it with my own eyes and replayed it, slowed it down, watched different angles, videoed the damn thing, got a beer from the fridge....ordered a large pizza to celebrate............. oh yes indeed, Bernard did a ''Simple Rainbow'', it was beautiful !!

I am hoping that the ball physics and player animation alterations being caused by your DB/AI Mods will also mean that now that the CPU Rainbow attempts are working, they will also work with different timing, i.e., some still to go wrong, some to have the ball spinning anti clockwise or clockwise etc, similar to FIFA Street where I monitored lots of the tricks the CPU do and it has various outcomes each time they do it (maybe from animations they created for each trick to make them seem more organic, or hopefully from the ball physics realism within the mechanics of the trick).
I am DANCING HERE!!!!

(Incidentally, my Barcelona and Real Madrid teams I watch I have built with 5 star skill players throughout the first eleven, so I get to see more tricks being performed anyway (obvious I know), but tonight, with your Fidel AI v1.0 + your Fidel v1.0 Hybrid, I stumbled across this awesome combination and witnessed something I didn't think would happen until EA fixed it !!!!!)

Unrelated to my Rainbow post above

I'm wondering if anyone here has tried the Hybrid Attrib folders at the same time as Fidel AI v1.0 (assuming naturally most of us would be trying it with Fidel's latest AI v1.2 and not bothering with AI v1.0................) because I have spent 4 hrs tonight comparing:---

Fidel AI v1.0 + Fidel v1.0 Hybrid (with just DB 0.5)

and
Fidel AI v1.2 + Fidel v1.0 Hybrid (with both DB 0.5 and DB 0.6, regenerated with Filemaster 14 (running as admin) when changing to DB 0.6)
..........and have witnessed a stunning difference between the two combinations, put it this way, the AI v1.0 with v1.0 Hybrid is too awesome to describe, but AI v1.2 with v1.0 Hybrid is almost like watching EA v1.02 Vanilla.......not good!

I am not talking here about anything related to my ''Rainbow obsession'' either, this is a general gameplay/ball physics/AI thought process/animation major difference as watched with CPU vs CPU as I always do, its like watching two differently coded games.


I switched back and forth between AI v1.0 and AI v1.2 a few times to prove that I wasn't going mad as well, it was not like I was imagining things.

I will write up a full report tomorrow, hopefully this might give Fidel some important feedback because AI v1.2, to be honest, has lost most of what is amazing in AI v1.0, and even Fidel might be taken by surprise with just how immense AI v1.0 works with Hybrid.

Before I write the report, I BEG ALL OF YOU (even Fidel, even AndreaPirlo and RegularCat, all of whom are the master gameplay modders) to try Fidel's AI v1.0 + Fidel's v1.0 Hybrid, its out of this planet, its surprisingly absolutely amazing. I can guarantee it beats anything the Ignite engine is going to ''surprise us with''.

Anyway, onto tomorrow........my in-depth feedback report on what I witnessed tonight (with no mentions of Rainbows, honest, now I have witnessed it working for the CPU thanks to Fidel, I wont mention them again!!)

Enjoy the game bro! Thanks for congratulations!
Because of you, I've created in the new tool the option: GP EVO COMBO SET!
Big thanks for all feedback! You're like a friend kaicooper, he (like you) has the ability to see every little change in the game and new settings.
Bye

Ok, so I just returned from the dead (I registered here a lot of years ago and I follow the forum but I don't usually post) to say to all of you "Listen to dazzer169". I just played a Barça - Real Madrid match with v1.0 Hybrid and it was AMAZING! It really is a different game, a BETTER game. So, do it now and enjoy!
Last but not least, thanks to Fidel for his amazing mod!

Enjoy the game bro! Thanks for congratulations!

I already said what i think: 1.0 version with hybrid is 95% demo gameplay, and demo convinced me to buy full game....

Enjoy the game bro! Thanks for congratulations!
You tried full gameplay pack? BYe

Pulga, I meant use the older v1.0 AI that Fidel first released, with v1.0 of hybrid..........hopefully your test was with these two together and not v1.2 AI with v1.0 hybrid, if not, then be prepared for an even better experience when u try it.

I will be doing my test comparison report later today.

Use your favorite combo set and enjoy! I'm working to a new AI update and I contact you soon! Do you want to try my latest version (my private version). Bye

Hi Fidel, i made a lot of tries and attempt to solve the incompatibility...
but i realized that if you wanna play the career mode with HG installed, you HAVE TO use the edited database.

Infact in my team (MILAN) it's not a problem of player recovery, it's like the player doesn't even get tired at all.

If I play with HG enabled, all of the player end the match with the whole stamina, the only Kakà get tired because he has (40) as Resistenza (in 2nd year...).

So my conclusion is that you surely have edited something in the attribdb or attribgameplay files that make the HG working properly only with your database...

Since you made the HG not togheter the AI&DB, is there any possibility for you to mod the HG to make it compatible with original db?
I guess the problem is only on resistance...

Hello, thanks for feedback and congratulation,
and Yes: HG is designed for full combo (especially for both with my db). Anyway now I try fo fix in these days through another way (stamina issue with ori db). Bye

Hello guys, so if i get it, it's better to use the 1.0 AI than the 1.2, will try this.

Another thing, please can any one share with us a sliders set made for the combo Ai-db-HG by Fidel, i know it's better set them by my self, but a'm really not goood at that, i don't even know where to start, so please any one, help a brother out.

well, have a nice time playing everyone, and don't forget to watch the return of Kakà tonight against Barcelona.

Bye

I suggest you to setup slider's settings as your game play style.
Adjusting is really intuitive, statistic at end mach help to adjust those slider's settings! Also help what you have to change/increase/decrease, during a match!
For example:
the new game physics introduced on HG, sometimes the goalkeepers do not block the ball well, you can fix this problem through a relative slider setting (increase gk skills, both human-cpu)....
You can fix this issue also through another slider: the shoot speed (you must decrease, both human/ai and also reduse pass speed is good thing.
You already know that is good if you decrease speed and accel, like your style.
Check and let me know! Bye

english only.

Sorry bro! But you have violated sg forum rules and admin delete your post, re-post on eng, read, copy and paste from waldo thread slider's settings
translated in eng language, and add your numbers setting.
Ciao

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What you have deleted! Bye

Fidel,

1. GREAT F---king job. The game plays so much better with your mods. I just downloaded the new set and installed it.

2. I have a suggestion. On each of your mod editions could you change the ball that is used in the arena so we know it installed successfully? Would it also be possible to do this with various installation combos:
-Like a high vis ball if AI 1.3 and Hybrid Gameplay is installed
-The blue EA ball if AI 1.3 is installed but no Hybrid Gameplay
-The classic black and white if Hybrid only is installed
-Etc?

Or would this be way to hard to do? I have no idea. You guys work magic and bring joy to my FIFA life. EA ruins the game with version 1.02 (I thought the base game was really good this year) and you fix it. How EA has not hired you and your mod buddies is beyond me!

Keep up the good work!

Thanks for all congratulation!
In red color: yes is a good idea, maybe it require time and new update for the tool. But is possible to add your request or similar (I don't like your ball combination, maybe your is an example, I understand!).
Bye and enjoy the game!
There are many new things, you've seen them in the game!
One very important thing for me to do when I edit fifa gameplay is:
not to worsen good things original settings.
Work on the gameplay means nothing leisure,work on the gameplay means nothing leisure, days, months, years and years of testing, every year I never finish my career, but this year, I decided to work immediately to an ultimate gameplay mod, for enjoy the game immediately (this is good for me and you all).

Big thanks to everyone for all comgratulations and posts, comments, emails and pms.
I'm reply to everyone as soon as possible.
Bye bye

 

[kaicooper]

Fideeeeeeeeeeeeeeel lol

i enabled ur mod with modding way

but how should i know if ur Evo mod is working in game?

 

[ferraus]

Hello,

I'm quite acosumed with your new db and AI, have managed to find the correct slider settings to ease the World Class difficulty!

but I have noticed a problem that comes from vanilla version which your patch wasnt able to change. That is "cheating".
I always play in carrer mode and it is always the same old thing. The first 4 or five games are normal, and usually I win more than loose. The team crates chances,
the players respond fast enough and sometimes it feels even too easy to score goals. But then beggining on the forth or fifth game of the season it all suddenly and unexpectedly changes!
Players dont move, lose easy balls and passes, are slower in running and responding. I'm now in my fifth consecutive defeat and can not even create chances! I've tryed to change
formation, change the squad, etc, etc... Nothing seems to work! The maches really seem scripted in a way you can not influence! Its really frustrating!

You have said that your patch have removed cheating, and at the beggining it really felt so, but I've now tried three carreer modes with benfica and spurs and it always happen the same way!

Is this really the script working? Cant you do anything about it? Or is it just me who sucks?! On friendllys and online I dont seem such a bad player...
I'm really loosing my will to play this game now.

Thanks

 

[maseren]

Difference between AI 1.2 and 1.3: (no DB or Hybrid)

Things I like:

1. Players are active all over the field, they make great runs, etc...
2. Computer AI is much harder than the AI in 1.2 which was very easy to score goals on.


Things I do not like:

1. Fidel I've noticed that with Ai 1.3 for some strange reason, a lot of the vanilla fifa 13 Ai is back. The cheating seems back, as in even if I beat some player and i am ahead of them by one or two yards somehow they catch up to me. But the AI at least does not cheat in terms of being super strong just because i scored a goal. Oh also, their players tend to get to a loose ball far faster than my own, even though they are faster agility/speed/etc... unless this is reaction based.

2. I've also noticed that the computer has this uncanny ability to always extend one foot from behind or the side and just take the ball right off of the player's boot, seen it with Neymar, and other great dribblers, like their skills don't matter. This isn't even when I am sprinting, just taking the ball up field.

3. Lastly, in trying to get crosses through from the side line, what i've noticed is that the AI does a great job of blocking the crosses, but about 80-90% of the time it does such a great job of a block, the ball never goes out for a corner, and ends up stopped between my player and the computers and with reaction time, there is no way I am beating an AI to get control of the bal back.

4. For corners, I am having difficlties either positioning the ball appropriately,or i'm not sure actually. What is happening is that almost always, my intended playerfor the cross is standing well behind a defensive player so can never get in front to head it or kick it home.


Again thanks for all your work. I am bad, still have not given up on just using your AI alone. By the way, I STILL don't understand what Hybrid gameplay is, can you explain?

 

[fanoflinoa]

Hey guys.

I've tried the combo Ai 1.3-db-Hg and it seems fine(still the AI a little bit too good at covering the ball even surronded by 3 players but still fine).

Now i've tried my favorite mod in Fifa wich is "become a pro" and the players stats are back to defaut in this mod, is this normal?

Any way even with the AI and HG alone the mod is still fun.

One last thing, i know i've talked about it before, but can anyone please share some sliders with us?

I know taht a'm supposed to set them my self, but i just can't, there is too many parameters to handle, for example the too easy score from far distance, which slider to change? shoot accurancy, speed or keeper's ability, or the 3 of them? and how far that the changes have to go, acc 40? 30? or even 20? Same for speed, 40? 30? or even lower? And for the keeeper, 60? 80? 100? I mean, it's too complicated, and i may sound selfish, but i will not play 100 matches just to set the sliders.

So if anyone is playing with a custom sliders(i already tried some proposed by a memeber on this thread but they weren't for me), please give us a share, i ultimately prefer 10 min halves, world class with sliders as symetric as possible(between Ai and PLayer) but i will take anything, so thanks in advance.

Have fun.

 

[kaicooper]

how to know if Fidel Evo working or no? i wanna know in the game
if its enabled or no

 

[MrRonald2796]

Do I have to unistall the previous version to make it work properly?

 

[777]

Yes you need to delete previous version to make it work properly

 

[regularcat]

manual install files please.

dazzer can you upload the files for the Fidel v1.0 AI + Fidel v1.0 Hybrid AttribdbGameplay folders <<< ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE, AMAZING or what ?

 

[xPr0metheus]

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What you have deleted! Bye

Sorry I just asked what hybrid gameplay is before I followed the link where it is explained so I felt stupid and quickly deleted the post

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[kaicooper]

Fidel

i used ur AI 1.3 and its great but still there's big problem in GK
every shoot from CPU they score goals..and sometimes the players dont
do anything to the ball

 

[maseren]

Fidel!!

A new update from me. I have finally tested your ai 1.3 and hybrid game play. No dB yet and guess what? Loved it! I will test more tomorrow however, my player ai is wonderful. They do things on their own, my dribbling wingers are very hard to dispossess the ball from as it should be. My big cb can hold his own against small forwards trying to out head him. More testing tomorrow and will let you know detailed feedback.

 

[maseren]

Kai, here is the deal. Although I did not have as strange a time as you my suggestion is :

If you insist on running ai 1.3 by itself in world class you better be very, very good. I almost destroyed my controller because I was getting angry and frustrated.

If you want to keep your career like me and want a fun experience install ai and hybrid game play.

If you want fouls and amazing game play but don't mind if its a bit slower then get fuels dB, his ai and hybrid. I refuse to loose my developed career so I am doing the second one.

Enjoy.

Fidel

i used ur AI 1.3 and its great but still there's big problem in GK
every shoot from CPU they score goals..and sometimes the players dont
do anything to the ball

 

[kaicooper]

ok i tested HG and AI

now there's some balance in player and more real animation
and balls speed and shooting everything is great BUT..

there's still many and many mistakes -GK always weak and can get alot
of goals from every single shoot (90%)
and also somtimes nobody go to the ball ..players just goes away from the ball lol
and the gameplay seems liiiiitle slower..need more real speed and reaction

but really the most annoying thing is when i score a goal..the other team becoms Supermans lol

thanx fidel

 

[kaicooper]

Fidel

just like old days..send my any new Test file to test it
i'll feedback just like old days

thanx