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Dreath said:You lot do understand that in the Islamic faith, they do not like nudity, especially of the female kind. The are against homosexuality and other things. But that is their religion, you've gotta respect that.
Religious ideals are pure conservatism based on tradition and it will be nigh on impossible for them to change. It may seem out of touch in the modern days illusion of liberalism, but you've got to respect it. Otherwise the liberal nations/people aren't being liberal are they?
My question is to you. Are you in the position to say what is right and wrong? Surely their word is just as valid as yours? If so then, them being against homosexuality is just as right as your support of freedom of sexuality.
Nothing has been proven one way or the other. There's a lot of debate within the scientific community. Some research suggests that about 10% of people may be genetically pre-dispositioned to homosexual behavior, but a much smaller percentage actually become homosexuals.Virgo said:Furthermore it's been proven cientifically that you don't choose your sexual orientation.
Blaming religion for bigotry is like blaming the internet for child pornography.IceBlu said:Some of you might come and defend islam saying that this isn't something preached by the Koran. Perhaps not. I haven't read it and don't intend reading it either. The point is that so many atrocities have been committed in the name of Islam so whether you like it not, the religion has instigated people to act they way they do.
king said:Why are muslims so offended because of the topless babes on the beach? I still don't get it, don't there mother breast feed them? don't they look at those boobs bouncing up and down while ripping the pussies of there 4 whory wives at one time (I mean thats the total of 8 boobs ). I mean they also get turned on by females in Burkha.
AhmedK said:Are you joking or are you just ******* stupid?
To be honest I would be more worried about someone who compares his mom to topless girls at a beach than someone who was offended by the later.
As for the video, well it is nothing new, the dutch don't want muslims just like the yanks don't want mexicans, it isn't right or "ethical" but it is done in every country. In fact, in Egypt you have to go through different paperwork and pay higher fees and taxes if you are not muslim, why? Because they don't want non-muslims in the country, just like a lot of eurotrash are worried that muslims will come over and try and change "what they find there", muslims are afraid of non-muslims coming over and messing with the culture, all the same game, different language. As for being turned on by burkhas, that is not my thing, but it is hard to take any insult from a member of a race that seems to douse itself in curry powder every morning, very seriously.
Do you guys do it to piss the rest of us off? Stereotypes aren't very funny are they now,prick?
IceBlu said:speaking of over-zealous...
July 25, 2005
Iran: Gay Teens Executed by Hanging
In the city of Mashhad in north-eastern Iran, two gay teens have been executed. One was 18 and the other is thought to have been 16 or 17. First they were lashed 228 times, though. Not long after the execution there were howls of outrage from the Iranian parliament - not at the execution itself, but at the temerity of journalists to report it.
According to the website Age of Consent, which monitors such laws around the world, in Iran “Homosexuality is illegal, those charged with love-making Irangay_teens_2 are given a choice of four deathstyles: being hanged, stoned, halved by a sword, or dropped from the highest perch.
Source: http://atheism.about.com/b/a/187568.htm
Just another story to reiterate what we already know. Parts of the Muslim world live in the stone age and practice barbaric rituals... and the worst part is that they intend keeping it that way.
Some of you might come and defend islam saying that this isn't something preached by the Koran. Perhaps not. I haven't read it and don't intend reading it either. The point is that so many atrocities have been committed in the name of Islam so whether you like it not, the religion has instigated people to act they way they do.
That scum Fortuyn was assasinated by a left wing environmentalist, not a muslim extremist. Doesn't change the point you made, it still stands.TheBlueBalla said:I thought Pim Fortuyn was a scumbag, but I can hardly blame them for wanting to keep zealots like his assassin out of the fu*king country.
Virgo said:man... really the hole is getting deeper, you're defending dictatorships now.
that last sentence is so brilliant though. Sig material
Dreath said:Sometimes I wish I had a wall with me at all times to bang my head into.
I am a scientist, at least one in training. I'm studying biochemistry. But even I know, as history has shown time and time again, science only proves something until something else proves it otherwise, apart from universal truths of physics, which are few. But when genetics come into it, as with the homosexuality "gene", they are not certain of it. By a long way. Science apart from maths, is not a certainty. It is just a high probability. It is anything but infallible. So because both science and religion are not certainties, they are both just as justifed and true as each other.
And do you think that every other government type apart from democracy is a dictatorship? If so, I do worry for you. Just for the record, i'm not talking about afganistan in particular.
Oh and I'm sorry I don't bum Bill Hicks. I can't repsect someone who is intolerable of religion because religion is intolerable to others.
Hans said:Muslim law is so cool . . .
I can see meself enjoying lynching gays to the death . . . Ah, yessss, whatta way of peace . . .
Virgo said:I'm sure this one http://isna.ir/Main/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-556874
is fake too, even the pictures right?
Someone has just way too much time on their hands and they got some people together with officer's uniform and just staged an execution for kicks.
Run DMB said:Nothing has been proven one way or the other. There's a lot of debate within the scientific community. Some research suggests that about 10% of people may be genetically pre-dispositioned to homosexual behavior, but a much smaller percentage actually become homosexuals.
If homosexuality was purely genetic, there would be no homosexuals right now, since they generally tend not to reproduce. The "gay genes" would have died off centuries ago.
The_Knight said:So this entire muslim-bashing thread was based upon a manipulated story that didn't turn out to be true. Then when that didn't work out, it started setting a 'what if' scenario about the SAME story just for the sake of keeping the bashing flowing...
Then when that was over, someone posted an article that's been circulating torrent sites that almost all teenagers visit on an hourly basis.
And from these scraps of knowledge (if they qualify to be called "knowledge"), youngsters are formulating philosophical ideas about major issues like life, belief, and international politics.
I'll just say that the ideology of 'reading for knowledge' is long gone in this current generation, and the ones that will follow. Now everyone's main source of info is SG, The Daily Show, and an article with a title chosen to grab the attention of a kid on a torrent site.
Let's look at a family in which both the mother and father are carrying a gay recessive gene.Paulo Da Silva said:actually that is where you are wrong. A person inherits 2 genes for every trait. You can get one trait that says your straight and the other that says your gay. Now if the Straight gene is dominant and the gay gene is recessive your straight, and if its the opposite your gay. Now eventhough somebody is straight they still MAY have the gay gene, but in its recessive form. Now lets say you mate with a female who also has the gay gene in recessive form. the baby may acquire both gay recessive genes meaning he shall be gay.